Legally, if you don't know about it, probably not, since it has conducted it's criminal activity through fraud (con). However, if you know about it, and you still pay "taxes"...
Maybe.
At this point I consider all tax payers complicit.
It's scary as fuck to not pay taxes, but its pure crime, and not a single cent taken is legal; nor does it go where they say it is going, nor is it required since all taxes are voluntary.
For example, "coerced to kill someone" does not absolve a person of murder. Even under threat of their own death, or the death of their family, an act of murder is still murder since one can always choose not to commit the crime, even though the penalty may severe. Acting out of self-preservation or even just convenience (as in this case) is not clearly "not complicit."
Then, by this reasoning, if someone holds a gun to your head and demands all of your money, you should fight him off, as you will otherwise be acting in self-preservation by simply handing him your money and letting him run away with it.
I wasn't making moral judgements, I was saying it wasn't clear cut.
In addition, your rebuttal was not a direct address of my example of complicity but an extension into the opposite extreme while leaving out a very important piece of it. If you know that robber is going to use that money for heinous acts against other people (which is what we are talking about) then perhaps you should fight him off.
The greatest crimes are within the law itself, or in this case, things that aren't actually laws at all. It is the (purposeful) fault of our education that we don't know these things, nor know how to deal with it in the eyes of the Law.
Legally, if you don't know about it, probably not, since it has conducted it's criminal activity through fraud (con). However, if you know about it, and you still pay "taxes"...
Maybe.
At this point I consider all tax payers complicit.
It's scary as fuck to not pay taxes, but its pure crime, and not a single cent taken is legal; nor does it go where they say it is going, nor is it required since all taxes are voluntary.
I'd say we're all under the threat of jail time if we don't pay our taxes, so that's not being complicit -- more like coerced.
That's fair, but not clear cut.
For example, "coerced to kill someone" does not absolve a person of murder. Even under threat of their own death, or the death of their family, an act of murder is still murder since one can always choose not to commit the crime, even though the penalty may severe. Acting out of self-preservation or even just convenience (as in this case) is not clearly "not complicit."
Then, by this reasoning, if someone holds a gun to your head and demands all of your money, you should fight him off, as you will otherwise be acting in self-preservation by simply handing him your money and letting him run away with it.
I wasn't making moral judgements, I was saying it wasn't clear cut.
In addition, your rebuttal was not a direct address of my example of complicity but an extension into the opposite extreme while leaving out a very important piece of it. If you know that robber is going to use that money for heinous acts against other people (which is what we are talking about) then perhaps you should fight him off.
I wish some guys who are in prison for "tax fraud" heard of that sooner.
You and me both.
The greatest crimes are within the law itself, or in this case, things that aren't actually laws at all. It is the (purposeful) fault of our education that we don't know these things, nor know how to deal with it in the eyes of the Law.
Preparing your RICO defense I see. ;)
Absolutely yes. Tax payers have funded the genocide of Iraq etc. it is our moral responsibility to refuse taxation.
I was told to render onto Caesar what is Ceasar's with no caveat in place about only doing it based on what Caesar does with his renderings.
Ok tax cuck.
Go pay your taxes to fund out destruction. I’ll take the risk, you cuck out.
Are you liable for financing drug trafficking if a guy buys drugs with money he got after pointing a gun to your head ?