I'm against common programs because I think if someone can do it better/faster/cheaper, they should do it better/faster/cheaper. I'd maybe be for keeping around standardized testing, but only as a measuring tool, it should not be tied to funding whatsoever. Education would be improved so much in the US if there was competition and worthless people could be fired, and troublemakers and slower students could break away on their own path. Let excellent people excel. I also think more trades should be taught around the 6th grade and on level, and schools should give actual advice on careers and do cost benefit analysis when it comes to going to college. I also think if education is payed for at all by tax payers it should be in the form of tax deductions to people with children in education and then the parents pay it themselves.
I'd maybe be for keeping around standardized testing
If I'm an engineering employer, I want to make sure someone I hire can be an engineer. Before we had standardized testing ("certifications" are the "I know how to be an engineer" standardized test), we would look at someone's work to determine if we liked it. If that wasn't available, we would talk to people to assess their hireability. If they don't know enough about engineering when I talk to them and they have no work to show me, I don't give a fuck what they got on a cert exam.
as a measuring tool
What are we measuring? Why are we measuring? Is someone who gets a better score on an SAT going to make a more productive person? Will it make them a better person? Will it make them a more contributing member of society? Do any of those questions even matter?
We have standardized testing because the Rockefellers et al wanted to create workers, not thinkers. Standardation is what you want to build the Machine. It has nothing to do with life.
I'd say for measuring performance, just some easier way for people to see this school is better than that one. And I don't mean keep the standardized tests we have now, those are garbage, they'd need to be rewritten. I'd just want some kind of score or index to measure the performance of a school, but maybe that opens up too many problems; it's a hard thing to measure accurately. I'm in software development and I'd agree with you that certs are not all that, talking with someone for like 30 min gives me a much better idea of what they know, but I'm talking more elementary and high school level here so I don't know that interviewing students is a solution.
Maybe a better performance metric would be student outcomes in the job market, but that would have a pretty big lag time, I don't know.
just some easier way for people to see this school is better than that one.
Why? Why is that the way? Why are we always measuring dicks? Education needs to change completely. I don't mean we need to be more open minded, less restrictive, I mean we need to move away from creating the Machine and moving towards understanding the universe and/or life and/or ourselves.
In anything we need to know, there is no "standard" to which we need to be measured. Almost everything we currently think matters (everything on these tests) is just part of creating or maintaining the Cabal Machine.
Our education builds The Matrix. We need to learn to appreciate exactly what that really means.
So I pretty much agree with you here. I'm looking at schools and education as it pertains to equipping a person to interact with the world and succeed and be self-sufficient. I'm looking at it in a way to deal with the world as it is today.
You are talking much bigger picture stuff, which I would love, but essentially means we also need to change the way we live and structure society, which is a task that should be approached at your peril and with great caution since it can go so bad in so many ways.
Our education builds The Matrix.
As it is now? Yeah. And maybe what I'm suggesting, in a way, would do that too. That journey of "understanding the universe and/or life and/or ourselves" has always been one I've undertaken alone (in a sense), so I didn't even really consider incorporating that into our Education System.
I think there are small portions at least, of this Matrix we find ourselves in, that are probably still essential to living life. That's probably why so many accept it. Which maybe then you would just say that isn't part of it, so semantics maybe. But I've always viewed education and a vocation as part of those essentials. We have certain needs that need to be met before anyone can even think about "understanding the universe and/or life and/or ourselves"
I'm against common programs because I think if someone can do it better/faster/cheaper, they should do it better/faster/cheaper. I'd maybe be for keeping around standardized testing, but only as a measuring tool, it should not be tied to funding whatsoever. Education would be improved so much in the US if there was competition and worthless people could be fired, and troublemakers and slower students could break away on their own path. Let excellent people excel. I also think more trades should be taught around the 6th grade and on level, and schools should give actual advice on careers and do cost benefit analysis when it comes to going to college. I also think if education is payed for at all by tax payers it should be in the form of tax deductions to people with children in education and then the parents pay it themselves.
If I'm an engineering employer, I want to make sure someone I hire can be an engineer. Before we had standardized testing ("certifications" are the "I know how to be an engineer" standardized test), we would look at someone's work to determine if we liked it. If that wasn't available, we would talk to people to assess their hireability. If they don't know enough about engineering when I talk to them and they have no work to show me, I don't give a fuck what they got on a cert exam.
What are we measuring? Why are we measuring? Is someone who gets a better score on an SAT going to make a more productive person? Will it make them a better person? Will it make them a more contributing member of society? Do any of those questions even matter?
We have standardized testing because the Rockefellers et al wanted to create workers, not thinkers. Standardation is what you want to build the Machine. It has nothing to do with life.
I'd say for measuring performance, just some easier way for people to see this school is better than that one. And I don't mean keep the standardized tests we have now, those are garbage, they'd need to be rewritten. I'd just want some kind of score or index to measure the performance of a school, but maybe that opens up too many problems; it's a hard thing to measure accurately. I'm in software development and I'd agree with you that certs are not all that, talking with someone for like 30 min gives me a much better idea of what they know, but I'm talking more elementary and high school level here so I don't know that interviewing students is a solution. Maybe a better performance metric would be student outcomes in the job market, but that would have a pretty big lag time, I don't know.
Why? Why is that the way? Why are we always measuring dicks? Education needs to change completely. I don't mean we need to be more open minded, less restrictive, I mean we need to move away from creating the Machine and moving towards understanding the universe and/or life and/or ourselves.
In anything we need to know, there is no "standard" to which we need to be measured. Almost everything we currently think matters (everything on these tests) is just part of creating or maintaining the Cabal Machine.
Our education builds The Matrix. We need to learn to appreciate exactly what that really means.
So I pretty much agree with you here. I'm looking at schools and education as it pertains to equipping a person to interact with the world and succeed and be self-sufficient. I'm looking at it in a way to deal with the world as it is today.
You are talking much bigger picture stuff, which I would love, but essentially means we also need to change the way we live and structure society, which is a task that should be approached at your peril and with great caution since it can go so bad in so many ways.
As it is now? Yeah. And maybe what I'm suggesting, in a way, would do that too. That journey of "understanding the universe and/or life and/or ourselves" has always been one I've undertaken alone (in a sense), so I didn't even really consider incorporating that into our Education System.
I think there are small portions at least, of this Matrix we find ourselves in, that are probably still essential to living life. That's probably why so many accept it. Which maybe then you would just say that isn't part of it, so semantics maybe. But I've always viewed education and a vocation as part of those essentials. We have certain needs that need to be met before anyone can even think about "understanding the universe and/or life and/or ourselves"