Well, you are just diverting from the fact that you refuse to look into the relevant history and physics of the Earth being round: the fact that it was deduced from observational geometry, the fact that it was circumnavigated on its surface, and the fact that it was orbited by a human observer. These are all facts.
Water does not rest "flat." It follows the curvature of a roughly spherical gravitational potential field. If a bucket has a diameter of 1 foot (about 0.3 meter), the spherical bulge of the water is about 2 millionths of a millimeter. You can eyeball something that small, right? It just means you don't know what you are talking about. We are indeed on a sphere that rotates at roughly 0.0007 RPM, and the acceleration associated with that is imperceptible. Do the numbers yourself...if you can. Just because you have no idea what the answer is, you ignorantly assume there is no answer.
You need to open your mind and crack some books. In my time, a fifth-grader knew more than you do.
So, here we have a brainiac who cannot refute the FACT that it is impossible to see how flat the water is in a bucket. That it needs a bucket is obvious, but is only like saying "the sky is blue." There is no end when you are trying to correct the world, but cannot be bothered to correct your own stupid errors.
It has been sometimes said that conversation is like a tennis game: one tends to play to the level of one's opponent. So, these conversations tend to degenerate because your side refuses to discuss facts and science and just retreats into a shell of defensive denial and offensive opprobrium. In other words, you don't even understand your own position and you are frustrated at being unable to hold your own in an intelligent conversation. For you, the right answer is to throw a horse apple and skedaddle home and slam the door behind you. What a coward. I bet you would be unable to calculate the difference between flat water and convex water in a bucket. It turns out that the usual approach doesn't work because even modern cheap computers cannot calculate to the required number of significant digits. One has to come up with an approximate formula to even get in the right ballpark. But I am no doubt talking over your head. So, no more admonitions about me opening my mind. I am already operating above your level. You take some steps to get up here with me.
The difference between you and i, is i don't give a shit if the earh is round or not. I just want the truth. The spinning ball feels like bullshit. I don't know and neother do you. You haven't seen the curve either you're just believing what your told. And your so damn brainwashed that you will defend it.
You make no sense. Why would you give a shit about the truth, if what the truth is means nothing to you? A clue comes from your "the spinning ball feels like bullshit." You cannot think by resorting to "feelings." The effect of the spin is insensible to the human body. But not to the atmosphere, in which it produces cyclones. And not to the oceans, in which it produces the equatorial bulge. I've by now pointed out that the spherical bulge in a bucket of water is simply too small to observe. We do live on a big planet, and being sufficiently big over a small scale sure looks "flat." Larger scales, not so much.
I see the curve at an altitude of 40,000 feet. Of course, that is no accomplishment, since even a flat LP-disk Earth would show a curve at its edge. A point which you obviously have not taken into consideration. The more definite proof is that you can sail west or east and will ultimately return to your starting point. Impossible if the Earth is not round. Same thing with airplane flight. Even more so with satellites.
Speaking of brainwashed and believing what you are told, you are a prime example. You have turned your back on actual knowledge and subscribed to a cult belief system that has to deny most of modern life. All those poor, deluded people who are picking up TV signals from satellites. All those befuddled nitwits that are having telephone calls around the world to where it is night instead of day (I do that all the time, with my family in Africa).
How is it that, of the two of us, I am the only one providing information to explain all these things? You couldn't explain yourself if your life depended on it.
Well, you are just diverting from the fact that you refuse to look into the relevant history and physics of the Earth being round: the fact that it was deduced from observational geometry, the fact that it was circumnavigated on its surface, and the fact that it was orbited by a human observer. These are all facts.
Water does not rest "flat." It follows the curvature of a roughly spherical gravitational potential field. If a bucket has a diameter of 1 foot (about 0.3 meter), the spherical bulge of the water is about 2 millionths of a millimeter. You can eyeball something that small, right? It just means you don't know what you are talking about. We are indeed on a sphere that rotates at roughly 0.0007 RPM, and the acceleration associated with that is imperceptible. Do the numbers yourself...if you can. Just because you have no idea what the answer is, you ignorantly assume there is no answer.
You need to open your mind and crack some books. In my time, a fifth-grader knew more than you do.
You are brainwashed well. Water needs a container. The end
So, here we have a brainiac who cannot refute the FACT that it is impossible to see how flat the water is in a bucket. That it needs a bucket is obvious, but is only like saying "the sky is blue." There is no end when you are trying to correct the world, but cannot be bothered to correct your own stupid errors.
It has been sometimes said that conversation is like a tennis game: one tends to play to the level of one's opponent. So, these conversations tend to degenerate because your side refuses to discuss facts and science and just retreats into a shell of defensive denial and offensive opprobrium. In other words, you don't even understand your own position and you are frustrated at being unable to hold your own in an intelligent conversation. For you, the right answer is to throw a horse apple and skedaddle home and slam the door behind you. What a coward. I bet you would be unable to calculate the difference between flat water and convex water in a bucket. It turns out that the usual approach doesn't work because even modern cheap computers cannot calculate to the required number of significant digits. One has to come up with an approximate formula to even get in the right ballpark. But I am no doubt talking over your head. So, no more admonitions about me opening my mind. I am already operating above your level. You take some steps to get up here with me.
If you know the contents of a book, describing a truth, you only know the description but not the very truth itself.
Says the man who hasn't read the book. Just a deflection from the fact you cannot answer these questions.
The difference between you and i, is i don't give a shit if the earh is round or not. I just want the truth. The spinning ball feels like bullshit. I don't know and neother do you. You haven't seen the curve either you're just believing what your told. And your so damn brainwashed that you will defend it.
I have no dog in this fight.
You make no sense. Why would you give a shit about the truth, if what the truth is means nothing to you? A clue comes from your "the spinning ball feels like bullshit." You cannot think by resorting to "feelings." The effect of the spin is insensible to the human body. But not to the atmosphere, in which it produces cyclones. And not to the oceans, in which it produces the equatorial bulge. I've by now pointed out that the spherical bulge in a bucket of water is simply too small to observe. We do live on a big planet, and being sufficiently big over a small scale sure looks "flat." Larger scales, not so much.
I see the curve at an altitude of 40,000 feet. Of course, that is no accomplishment, since even a flat LP-disk Earth would show a curve at its edge. A point which you obviously have not taken into consideration. The more definite proof is that you can sail west or east and will ultimately return to your starting point. Impossible if the Earth is not round. Same thing with airplane flight. Even more so with satellites.
Speaking of brainwashed and believing what you are told, you are a prime example. You have turned your back on actual knowledge and subscribed to a cult belief system that has to deny most of modern life. All those poor, deluded people who are picking up TV signals from satellites. All those befuddled nitwits that are having telephone calls around the world to where it is night instead of day (I do that all the time, with my family in Africa).
How is it that, of the two of us, I am the only one providing information to explain all these things? You couldn't explain yourself if your life depended on it.