Are Freemasons something different in the US from the UK?
In the UK it's pretty much a bunch of old blokes who get together once a month, have a dinner, and put some money in the charity pot. They occasionally visit other lodges to meet different old blokes/change of scenery/food.
Most Freemasons don't understand that while they believe in God/goodnees; the hidden hand of good outcomes; the real players on the chess board are evil! It's a Big Club but the everyday Mason does not realize he is nothing in the BIG picture!
Most people are unaware of the propaganda they are getting from media at every level. It is still brainwashing them and still doing harm. But with all the information available about the masons and then to still participate. Sorry that is next level.
Whilst I cannot comment on what happens the further in/up you go, rank and file do not deserve the labels.
If there is (and I admit it's likely been infiltrated) corruption further up/in, then that isn't Freemasonry itself (which I believe was set up for good purposes) but rather a club within a club which Freemasonry itself provides a cover for.
If I ever find out for sure, you can be sure I will be the first to try and tear it down and get it back on track, but when you hear comments about 'The Freemasons are behind x, y and z' I always think, those people might be Freemasons, but that does't mean Freemasonry stands for that, they're just using it for cover (which I freely admit is something that needs to be addressed).
For example, as a brit foreign nationals might hate me because of the decisions the uk government makes, but that doesn't mean I am responsible. Our government goes against the wishes of the public all the time.
The only part of the oath I have taken that involves those kind of penalties are the ones that pertain to revealing the secrets of freemasonry, and it is made perfectly clear that they are the symbolic penalty - although they obviously were once taken a mite more seriously.
In fact, I know there is so much information online that I had to deliberately avoid it so that my initiations weren't spoiled by foreknowledge, so I know the oath has nothing to do with keeping the ceremonies actually secret - it's more about whether or not you are a man of your word.
If I were to ever come across anything the least bit Satanic I would expose it immediately, but I have not found anything so far, and believe me, I am on my guard.
Masons have different things they focus on in different countries.
But, they are all basically the same.
They trick men who are bored or want to connect into worshipping Satan and doing messed up things.
They are made to rape and eat children.
My grandfather was in the fraternal order of the police (it’s a masonic organization), he was also a powerful mason, so I had masonic police from all over the world come rape me as a child. And much worse.
I'm really sorry to hear that, I consider child abuse to be the worst crime of all.
However, as a Master Mason and a member of the Royal Arch in the UK, I can assure you that there is nothing I have come across so far that would lead me to believe I have been tricked into worshiping Satan.
However, as I have mentioned I am not a 'powerful' mason or any such thing, but consider this..
The Boy Scouts has had its fair share of child abusers, does that make the Boy Scouts an evil organisation, or is it a convenient cover for those who seek to do harm?
If you don't mind, I will keep you in my thoughts the next time I pray (to Our Father, who art in Heaven - just to be clear).
The things you have gone through are so far outside my realm of experience I cannot possibly comment on them in any meaningful way, it's just that I have a hard time reconciling what you describe with what I have seen myself (I can't speak about anything else really).
I don't doubt what you say, but I don't know powerful British masons. What I can say is I don't believe any of the Freemasons I know are a part of anything so heinous, but then they aren't all high level masons either.
For what it's worth, I'm not a liar of any sort.
Christ will win.
Well, that is definitely something we can agree on.
Are Freemasons something different in the US from the UK?
In the UK it's pretty much a bunch of old blokes who get together once a month, have a dinner, and put some money in the charity pot. They occasionally visit other lodges to meet different old blokes/change of scenery/food.
That's it.
Most Freemasons don't understand that while they believe in God/goodnees; the hidden hand of good outcomes; the real players on the chess board are evil! It's a Big Club but the everyday Mason does not realize he is nothing in the BIG picture!
Most people are unaware of the propaganda they are getting from media at every level. It is still brainwashing them and still doing harm. But with all the information available about the masons and then to still participate. Sorry that is next level.
I actually joined to try and find out for myself.
Whilst I cannot comment on what happens the further in/up you go, rank and file do not deserve the labels.
If there is (and I admit it's likely been infiltrated) corruption further up/in, then that isn't Freemasonry itself (which I believe was set up for good purposes) but rather a club within a club which Freemasonry itself provides a cover for.
If I ever find out for sure, you can be sure I will be the first to try and tear it down and get it back on track, but when you hear comments about 'The Freemasons are behind x, y and z' I always think, those people might be Freemasons, but that does't mean Freemasonry stands for that, they're just using it for cover (which I freely admit is something that needs to be addressed).
For example, as a brit foreign nationals might hate me because of the decisions the uk government makes, but that doesn't mean I am responsible. Our government goes against the wishes of the public all the time.
The only part of the oath I have taken that involves those kind of penalties are the ones that pertain to revealing the secrets of freemasonry, and it is made perfectly clear that they are the symbolic penalty - although they obviously were once taken a mite more seriously.
In fact, I know there is so much information online that I had to deliberately avoid it so that my initiations weren't spoiled by foreknowledge, so I know the oath has nothing to do with keeping the ceremonies actually secret - it's more about whether or not you are a man of your word.
If I were to ever come across anything the least bit Satanic I would expose it immediately, but I have not found anything so far, and believe me, I am on my guard.
Masons have different things they focus on in different countries. But, they are all basically the same. They trick men who are bored or want to connect into worshipping Satan and doing messed up things. They are made to rape and eat children. My grandfather was in the fraternal order of the police (it’s a masonic organization), he was also a powerful mason, so I had masonic police from all over the world come rape me as a child. And much worse.
I'm really sorry to hear that, I consider child abuse to be the worst crime of all.
However, as a Master Mason and a member of the Royal Arch in the UK, I can assure you that there is nothing I have come across so far that would lead me to believe I have been tricked into worshiping Satan.
However, as I have mentioned I am not a 'powerful' mason or any such thing, but consider this..
The Boy Scouts has had its fair share of child abusers, does that make the Boy Scouts an evil organisation, or is it a convenient cover for those who seek to do harm?
If you don't mind, I will keep you in my thoughts the next time I pray (to Our Father, who art in Heaven - just to be clear).
The things you have gone through are so far outside my realm of experience I cannot possibly comment on them in any meaningful way, it's just that I have a hard time reconciling what you describe with what I have seen myself (I can't speak about anything else really).
I don't doubt what you say, but I don't know powerful British masons. What I can say is I don't believe any of the Freemasons I know are a part of anything so heinous, but then they aren't all high level masons either.
For what it's worth, I'm not a liar of any sort.
Well, that is definitely something we can agree on.
In which case, it isn't Freemasonry itself, it is rather the people who use Freemasonry as a cover.