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In the stripped down Bible ..so the recordings of the Jacob tribe. There is a distinct lack of kindness compassion..the elohim are vicious..they even wiped out the elohim in mesopotamia..the Sumerians were wiped out too. Nor do they advocate any kindness..it's obey the 163 commandments or die...give me your firstborn to pass in the fire or pay me silver sheKel's..a price list is there...Jacobs tribe were as bad as yahweh..
It is only to compete with the Hellenic gods that a different slant is added...very much later but whenever god is mentioned it's the elohim...not a kind loving compassionate god...there isn't a Hebrew word for god or eternity.
Morality is morality of their rules and as the elohim raped three year old girls had sex with animals..burnt women and babies as they craved the burnt smoke of the abdomen fat..had commandments how to get the smoke right and as they showed no mercy killing men women and children and even animals of enemies.where exactly is the mercy?
In the lost gospels a supposed Jesus..there are so many ..sounds like a yogi and says things like if thine I be single thy body shall be full of light..and do unto others etc but this is tagged on later. The new testament has nothing to do with the old testament...
Whatever way you want to look at it ...there is no Jesus son of God who died on a cross to remove the original sin Adam and Eve did..ie eve got pregnant by a foreign elohim..ie not yahwehs lot..a snake a serpent as they call all not their own elohim...and banished from the gad edin where they could live a protected and very long life and who can give you a ticket to eternal life in heaven. This is the horrible scam...a Jesus ticket to heaven...he got crucified to say you from his dad throwing you in a mythical hell for Adam and eves original sin.
So whatever way they try to wrap Jesus up ..it's a scam...
Where do you get this garbage? A fool says in his heart there is no God... BTW Christ dies for all sins...not just the original one.
I did not say there isn't a creator of all that is...I said the god they talk of in the old testament is not God..it's the elohim who wanted to be worshipped..but they were mortal and a lot of them died...it is recorded in the Bible. There were 240 I think elohim..fallen angels...one of them was Yahweh..but gradually he is talked about as if there was one God....not so.
Who is this Christ you speak of? Is it the elohim called Yahweh s son? Or the gavri el they say covered Mary...whichever one...what sins do we commit that is as bad as the Elohim's sin? That Yahweh ordered his death in agony on a cross..and this would somehow make our sins go away? When they were raping three year old girls..craving the abdomen fat of babies and women..some of the commandments give rules on how to do that and make their wine and beer...
Or is there some other Jesus and some other god ?
Half the stuff he describes is right from your Bible, you should read it some time and maybe burn a bull on the altar of sacrifice.
I don't know how anyone can read the Old Testament and not detect a distinct absence of love and a barbarous nature represented therein.
The difference between the Old and New Testaments is jarring, the God of the Old Testamant is a barbarous ruler whose love is conditional on jumping through his hoops like the one above.
So, if my neighbour works on the Sabath, should I put him to death or burn the afore mentioned bull on that altar, which is it?
It is fucking weird shit and spooky language, you can have it.
The organized religions will crumble with the Great Awakening and it will be glorious.
Edit:- Here is where he is also getting it from :- (Mauro Biglino) is an Italian essayist and translator.
Student of the history of religions, specialized in the translation from ancient Hebrew, he has translated the Masoretic text for the publisher Edizioni San Paolo.
Biglino translates literally what he reads in the Old Testament, deliberately ignoring those aspects of the faith, reserved for the personal sensitivity. Biglino therefore proposes an examination of the Old Testament through the literal translation of the Hebrew text, the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia.
Ill have to research it.
So then what if Jesus was half annunaki? Sent to restore the earth of the nasty's control? Like i said there could have been a benevolent one that survived.
I haven't looked at the mesopotamian annanuki/ elohim/gods/fallen angels. All different names for the same POS that invaded our earth and terrorised it. their commandments were obeyed or death was the punishment. Yahweh s tribe of Jacob who wrote what is now called the old testament...had over 600. Everything from food to wine to preparing his beer..you handed your firstborn over to him to pass in the fire or you paid him so many shelled for the baby....
They died..they lived a long time but they died.
So you are saying this Jesus a hybrid of either Yahweh or a gavri el..is born and at 12 starts interfering in the temple laws etc and is told later he has to die so his dad yahweh who won't forgive Adam and eves original sin of Eve getting pregnant by a sneaky snake foreign elohim...is going to consign everyone to some hell..a burning pit they used to burn rubbish and corpses in...but for eternity..a concept the Hebrews had no word for or eternity either....but this is saying Yahweh who had sex with animals and small kids ..had no conception of mercy or love...had the power to consign other mortals like himself to an everlasting hell? And his son Jesus could get this POS to do it cos the POS made him die in agony to do it
I think you need to lie down if you think that
First of all everything im bringing up are thought experiments. Nothing im saying here i believe as fact. I dont think either of us know the full truth thats why im bouncing ideas off you cause you seem to know a lot about the subject.
Im saying in this situation he would be half human half benevolent ET. I believe it would be whichever annunaki spared humanity during the flood. You yourself admit theres whole civilizations of these beings so is it that hard to believe there would be rebels?
Tearing down immoral laws replacing them with righteous ones.
Where does it say the snake impregnated eve? And how could adam be involved if it was eve who was impregnated? I believe you might have this part wrong. And then the matter of Jesus dying on the cross. We have no real idea what happens after we die. Perhaps Jesus had to die on earth in order to guide souls to a safer place? Perhaps its not possible or very difficult for non physical entities to effect or enter other planets?
Following my previous thought, hell would then be simply earth but without any righteous people/spirits?
If they had no word for it then perhaps parts of the text have been manipulated and changed over the years by people who want to hide the truth?
We are clearly not talking about the same entity.
Im enjoying this conversation. Its been a while since i was able to talk this deeply about humanity's origins.
Covering immaculate conception..what crap...when you understand what the elohim were/are...pope Gregory I think decided there was no original sin...sex is a sin...so if there wasnt an original sin what did we need a saviour for? And these were not divine in any shape or form...just like say the Nazis with better technology...but some of Nazis honourable.. Mary was taken to the temple of yahweh at three. And at 12 put in the care of Joseph...who comes back from a trip to find her pregnant and discovers it is from an is...which is ok..they could do what they wanted and Joseph wouldn't be executed...it's in the Bible..an old hebrew but they all have it
There seems to be different Jesuses in the Bible. Mauro thinks the zealot is real ..wanting to save only the lost sheep of Israel from occupation by the Romans...nothing was recorded as his kingdom was now..only it didn't happen..Paul starts elaborating on the kingdom is not now..eternal life is the trump card and the original sin also comes into play.
Then also he is represented as Yahweh s only begotten son which would make him a hybrid. Only it appears Mary was covered by a gavri el...still one of the elohim
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