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Flat Earthers logic... Actually saw this, today. 🙄 (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 4 years ago by catsfive 4 years ago by catsfive +29 / -0
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– jack445566778899 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Genesis is not a tract on geophysics or cosmology.

Right, it is vastly more than that... It contains those things, because is is true - right?!

But differs greatly from the cosmology of Egypt, with which Moses was familiar.

Not really, they are largely the same / compatible. That is also addressed in the book I linked to - you may enjoy/benefit from it!

But the firmament hangs as a tent above us... Hang does not always imply rotation at all (hang a painting, hang a drape etc.)! They had words to express this presumed rotation, but chose not to :(. The bible teaches that the lights in the sky move - not the earth. If you need more unambiguous biblical passage that unequivocally establishes this - let me know! It’s all there in the book, which is how that italian astronomer created his diagram!

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– DeathRayDesigner 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well, you are welcome to go back in time to some era that knows nothing about space, the planets, the atmosphere, etc. The diagram is overtaken by factual discovery. (By the way, we SEE that the lights in the sky move. But the reason is that the Earth rotates. Ever been on a carousel?)

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– jack445566778899 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

to some era that knows nothing about space, the planets, the atmosphere, etc.

You mean like the era when job (and the rest of the bible) was written?

They knew a whole lot more than we give them credit for! There is some amazing stuff hidden away in the bible - for instance did you know that they knew that mountains have roots (it is in one of the subsequent passages from the one you cited, I came across it while doing further research.)? That’s something very few people know today, and even fewer know why!

The diagram is overtaken by factual discovery.

So we are taught! However, it ain't necessarily so - sportin’ life

Would you care to discuss and explore that perspective further?

But the reason is that the Earth rotates.

I disagree! Would you care to discuss the reasons (and science) why?

Ever been on a carousel?

I have!

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– DeathRayDesigner 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Because we experience the accelerations of rotation. Because we observe it from orbit. If you knew science at all, you would know this. I'm not interested in debating with ignorance. The creation is God's Word as much as scripture, and he has given us reason with which to understand it. There is no conflict.

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– jack445566778899 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Because we experience the accelerations of rotation.

Yes, and we experience (measure them; they are too subtle to experience) them when we aren’t touching the (presumed rotating) ground too...

Because we observe it from orbit.

We do no such thing! And even if we did - merely looking is not how science is conducted. We require measurement in empericism!

If you knew science at all, you would know this.

I know a lot about and study science quite a bit, because I enjoy it! One of my favorite things is discussing and evaluating it further; perhaps you are the same way?

I'm not interested in debating with ignorance

Me neither! Though we can’t completely avoid ignorance (it is our lot), we can certainly avoid the mindless base pageantry of debate - and we should! I prefer rational discourse instead.

The creation is God's Word as much as scripture

Ah, a fellow heretic! I might even go so far as to say that reality (the creation, of which we are a small part) is VASTLY more important, and that what is found in the bible is to be tried as a blacksmith tries gold - by fire! However, this is a radically heretical view. I am a heretic to all religions, most especially scientism.

There is no conflict.

I have not found that to be the case, however I agree with the spirit of your statement. Truth does not contradict truth! If the bible is always true, then the world is fixed and immovable. So says the good book!

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