Here's the ever increasing List of Killer’s on Psychtropic Drugs
https://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/
At least 37 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 175 wounded and 82 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs). The most important fact about this list, is that these are only cases where the information about their psychiatric drug use was made public.
Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft. Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded.
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.) Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.
Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….
What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, AZ
What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas OR
I take issue with the article headline here for a couple of reasons.
#1 You're making the age old error of confusing correlation with causation. #2 The psychiatric drugs are only one part of the equation.
These people were already troubled, or they wouldn't be taking psychiatric drugs in the first place. More importantly, there's a strong probability that none of these incidents were simply mentally ill person + psychiatric drugs = mass murder.
I would argue that 90 to 100% of these people had handlers pushing them towards their actions. That's the element to focus on.
The thinking on display in this post is little different than a leftist in regards to firearms. "Look at what all of these mass shooters have in common! They all used guns!"
OP, I appreciate what you're doing here. But we have to think more critically and more deeply than this. There are few people more concerned than I am that half of the country's female population is on SSRI's. It's a serious, serious issue that needs equally serious analysis. But troubled people and psychiatrists throwing pills at them is as common as dandelions in the summer. And not all of them become mass murderers.
The drug issue is ancillary. The issue should be the therapists.
Did you read the article that I linked? 27 international drug regulatory agency warnings cite side effects including mania, violence, psychosis and even homicidal ideation.
I don't believe for a second that psychotropic drugs are ancillary. These killers would in all probability have not done the acts they committed if they were not on psychotropic drugs. Then there is the MKultra part of it too, in which government paid psychiatrists create these assets. Look at the Sirhan Sirhan case and others. There's far more to this than you know.
One amazing drug is called "Devil's Breath." Recently, I watched a video on how utterly horrifying the effects of this drug (Scopolamine) is. On YouTube you'll find videos on "Devil's Breath."
Indeed, "the CIA and secret police around the world have tested and studied the drug as a tool for interrogation, due to its powerful suggestive effects."--International Business Times.
The amazing thing about scopolamine is that all free Will of the victim is completely compromised. The victim becomes a zombie that obeys, without resistance, the master. It is used as a "date rape" drug and for thieves clearing out the homes and apartments of the victims. The victims actually help the thieves carry stolen goods or negotiate with security that everything is alright. After the drug wears off, the victim has no memory of what occurred beforehand.
Scopolamine is mixed with other drugs for different effects. Consider that the CIA and other agencies might have (just might have) have refined this drug to get the very effects they desire.
The possibility of a zombie patsy becomes a very real possibility. There are other governments that covet these drugs that will make willing dupes out of ordinary citizens too. Consider it and realize we are being herded into an enclosure for the culling.
Take your choice of petro-chemical toxins from below and add "Devil's Breath" to any of them.
I did said they're part of the equation. But the drug is simply a tool for evil people to manipulate the already troubled. One could just as easily rewrite your post and replace the SSRI's with firearm's manufacturers. Both SSRI's and firearms are tools/mechanisms for evil people to manipulate the troubled. But the source of this horrific problem is not the drugs, it's the people manipulating the unwell that are the problem.
You're positing that the drugs are responsible for the mass killings and I simply strongly disagree with this assertion.
And yes, scopolamine is a terrifying drug. But that's a street drug, not a legal pharmaceutical and consequently entirely separate from what appears to be the thrust of your post. Scopolamine is certainly something that people should be aware of, but I'm not sure if we have any evidence that scopolamine is being used on any of these CIA wind-up toys.
Fren, I appreciate what you're doing here because I think the fact that these mass murderers being on SSRI's is a notable element of the equation. And the efficacy, safety and extraordinarily broad distribution of these drugs, along with their scary side-effects is a worthy topic of conversation.
But I don't agree that those drugs are responsible for mass killings as you put forward in your post. The drugs are a possible tool of the evil people manipulating these troubled individuals. But I see no evidence to point to anything beyond that.
There's a LOT to discuss with SSRI's. The fact that they often cause patients to get worse before they get better. The fact that doctor's rarely warn patients of this fact. The fact that an absurdly large percentage of the country is on these drugs is notable. The lack of data in regards to long term neurological consequences of SSRI's is especially important.
But I want this community to think critically and be precise with their language. As Q stated "We are the news now". That's a heavy responsibility and it's one we must take seriously.
Absolutely not. There is no comparison here. Drugs that weaken the mind are not comparable to a firearm. Obviously, you don't own a firearm and know the responsibility of owning one. Being under the influence of a drug doesn't even relate.
I am indeed positing that psychotropic drugs are responsible for mass killings. Obviously, you haven't read the drug inserts themselves or it being "documented to cause not only suicidal ideation but also mania, psychosis, hostility, hallucinations and even 'homicidal behavior.
Citizens Commission on Human Rights International, a mental health industry watchdog provides -- "Psychiatric Drugs: Create Violence & Suicide" includes dozens of studies and expert opinion in support of this.
You mentioned scopolamine is a "street drug". So what? How does this negate the amazing influence of the drug. It has been used for many purposes of creating zombiefied individuals and easily getting them to do the bidding of their handler. The Intelligence Services use it for their MKUltra programs.
Your remark is rhetorical and a somewhat patronizing. And there's no evidence that the deaths surrounding the Clintons have anything to do with Clinton crimes. Right!
I tell you what. You show me evidence that the field of psychiatry is a science and then I'll show you evidence that the CIA has been using scopolamine for a long time.
Critical thinking is thinking outside of the box and connecting the dots. This is what GAW is all about. The facts are there that psychotropic drugs cause ideation of homicidal behavior.
Thank you for depressing the hell out of me. Conversations like this make me wonder if we deserve to win.
I'm tapping out and leaving this thread.
Good luck to you.
But it's not well reasoned. The OP is stating that these drugs are responsible for mass killings.
There's no evidence to support that. People don't take prozac and suddenly decide to murder children. There's data to support that they may commit suicide which is a very disturbing thing and it's a subject worth of conversation.
But it's evil people manipulating troubled individuals that are responsible for mass killings and these drugs are a potential tool for them to use on those troubled individuals. There's an enormous distinction here.
We must think critically. Is the data that the OP posting here relevant and important? Absolutely. But to state that these drugs are the cause of mass killings is to absolve the members of the intel community that are manipulating these troubled individuals into commuting these grotesque crimes.
And nobody is shaming anyone. I view the OP as a patriot, an ally and as a friend. But we must think critically and we must be precise with our language.