So, for many years, despite being totally red pilled on pizza gate and a million other things, I still thought the chemtrails theory was suspect (like flat earth is suspect). I felt that the explanation was reasonable that at certain altitudes, temperatures, and humidity levels, contrails could linger for extended periods of time. But, about 3 months ago, instead of a few lingering contrails here and there, it's ramped up to dozens of them almost every single day. After these days, the evening and overnight winds are insane. We've had insane winds most days for MONTHS. Never experienced anything like it in my life, completely ridiculous to pretend it's a natural weather pattern for the region I live in.
So, coinciding with the dramatically increased and regular "lingering contrails", I thought to myself 'I guess I should look into this chemtrail thing a bit.' So, I watched the documentary "What In The World Are They Spraying?" and they presented evidence about astronomically high levels of aluminum in the soil in places where they do this spraying, which causes the PH of the soil to come way up, so I decided to test the soil in my own back yard. Predictably, its PH is WAY high at 7.9. At 7 a lot of plants can't survive have trouble.
Anyway, I'm now thoroughly convinced they're spraying something for some reason, and obviously not a good one. So, I've been paying more attention to what days they spray, and if I could spot a pattern. I've logged in to flight trackers to try and figure out which planes, and I've searched on the internet trying to find others who have already spent years trying to spot the patterns of these flights... But I couldn't find much. There are several websites with a LOT of surface information, but apparently no one has simply logged the days, amount of passes across their airspace, the flight numbers and callsigns (or lack thereof) of the aircraft, and compared these datasets to possible explanations. If any of you know of a place where such data is compiled or presented, I'd love to see it.
Now then, I've hit upon one data point in a possible pattern: after months of total sky covering spraying almost every day, there was no spraying at all across the entire Memorial Day weekend. There are plenty of standard passenger flights across this weekend, the sky was full of planes like it is any other day- but no lingering contrails. Not a single one. Do we ever see lingering contrails spreading across the sky on federal holidays? If not, that's quite a damning coincidence. If we could demonstrate a pattern like that, we could easily shut down the "lingering contrail due to common atmospheric conditions" argument- does the weather take federal holidays off?
You have to climb up your fantasy ladder to look down on me.
Aluminum oxide is not "free aluminum", which is the elemental metal. And it is found in nature as corundum. You know nothing about chemistry or minerals.
An increase in contrails signifies either an increase of traffic or a change in high-altitude relative humidity. You have no basis for saying something is unnatural when it can match natural changes in air conditions. So, you are saying there is no visible difference----except there is a visible difference? We are supposed to deduce a sinister plot from the increase in contrails? (I think you mentioned that the winds had also picked up. Post hoc ergo propter hoc?)
As for composition, you are aware that contrails are mainly ice crystals? And that ice crystals form around dust particles? Which are generally present in the ambient air? (Did they sample ordinary contrails? Did they sample undisturbed air? A control sample is usually required to validate any unusual composition.) At least now you are bringing up details. As for the rest, I was merely trying to catalogue all the aerial spraying that you are NOT complaining about. Of course I didn't say that anyone was dumping fuel across the sky---you are just lying about what I did say. And I had some basis for thinking that some of that might have been going on for aircraft approaching the international airport under whose approach corridor I live---strong smells of jet fuel---but that cleared up decades ago.
But you can't be too serious about this, or you would have been upset over decades of frequent space launch rocket chemtrails. Your favorite contaminant, aluminum oxide, is present in abundance. Also hydrochloric acid, not a good actor by any means. (There was once lively consideration of liquid fluorine as oxidizer, with associated nasty combustion products.) I suspect you really didn't know about it and are now caught unawares, so you pooh-pooh it in order to save face.
I look down on you because you argue like a liar, I need climb nothing to do that.
Corundum is a crystal made of aluminum oxide, it is not all aluminum oxide, and it is not remotely as common as aluminosilicate. Aluminum does not instantaneously rust into aluminum oxide, it requires time, pressure, and temperature. Much of the aluminum sprayed into the atmosphere likely does not immediately oxidize. However, aluminum oxide is toxic to life, so even if 100% of it rusted immediately, that is the worst case scenario.
Lol, neither do you. But, just like the photos of the ballast airplane, any mistakes I make or ignorance on my part is irrelevant. The truth is still the truth.
To 20-40 times normal levels? Which has never happened before? Cycling on and off on random days? With no accompanying humidity changes on the ground? No, you're retarded.
Your reading comprehension is atrocious. I am starting to believe that even your claimed credentials are likely false based on your inability to comprehend simple statements, which should indicate an absolute inability to comprehend complex subjects like aeronautics. No, I said that I was forced to reassess my dismissal of chemtrails based upon the preposterous order and a half plus magnitude increase in lingering chemtrails, and then was convinced by the preponderance of evidence upon looking into it with a newly open mind. Your constant, pathological need to replace what I say with delusions is truly incredible. I hope you're a shill, at least then you're this pathetic on purpose.
Normal contrails, yes. Aluminum nanoparticles in the atmosphere certainly should also attract ice crystals.
Yes, they did, they're not morons like yourself.
Why would I complain about extremely rare events? Honestly, what possessed you to think that was a smart argument?
Lol, no you just made a retarded argument and I made fun of it. Nice try blaming me for how you are behaving though, loser.
First of all, I've only realized this was happening a few months ago, how am I to go back in time to be upset about things? Second, nothing stopping me from realizing new information to be mad about. But, rocket launches probably don't amount to even a millionth of the apparent spraying happening. Certainly, in local areas where such launches took place, it may be a concern. But, they aren't blanketing the sky above my home, normal airplanes are.
I didn't specifically know that solid rocket boosters exhausted those contaminants, no, though I did know vaguely that historically rockets are dirty, toxic things, and that's part of the reason they are launched out in the middle of nowhere (in addition to the noise). This information is completely unsurprising and causes me no embarrassment to not have known already. And, of course, again, there are not rockets blasting across the sky filling it with a silver haze. There are conventional jet aircraft doing that.
I'll tell you what though, any more information you have about additional sources of aluminum being sprayed into the atmosphere, you should let the community know. I may be wrong about the relative amounts, after all. You should do some math- go find the atmospheric aluminum concentrations that the chemtrail researchers have gathered, then make some estimates of how much of it is due to rocketry. Maybe you'll turn the whole argument on its head. Or, you might realize there's way too much fucking aluminum in the air... So I guess it's not worth the risk, you'd better keep your head up your ass where it's safe.
You are clueless. The distinctive thing about aluminum is its reactivity to oxygen. The aluminum lawn chair is protected from corrosion by a layer of aluminum oxide already formed on the metal. Very hard. The basis of sapphire. One has to go through very special process to develop bare aluminum (must be protected by an inert atmosphere). Such "raw" aluminum will indeed burst into exothermic reaction with water (burns the oxygen from the water). If aluminum oxide is "toxic to life" you obviously don't want to sit on any aluminum furniture or use any aluminum cookware.
Corundum is commonly used as grit for sandpaper. It is not "rare."
Actually, I know a lot more chemistry than you do (as demonstrated above; you are ignorant). Part of my professional expertise is rocket propellants and combustion chemistry (including burning aluminum). Moving ahead to rocket launches, I'm interested that you think Cape Canaveral is "out in the middle of nowhere" when it is not far from Miami and gathers many onlookers. But the answer is that it was not part of your mythology, so you will simply erase it off the blackboard. LOTS of aluminum oxide, deadly to life (as you say) settling down on people and sea life. LOTS of hydrochloric acid. Feh. No big deal, say you. Sour grapes.
You make estimates of how much aluminum (or anything) might be lifted into the air as dust from sources already known. That is your baseline---which you don't even refer to. Ever seen what happens in a massive volcanic eruption? I have. So much solid matter, it is hard to calculate. You have made your conclusion of the source of any assay material by prejudice alone.
I don't have the time to fence with you. It is simple enough to show that you are completely ignorant of aluminum and its chemistry. So far, I have been the only one bringing valid information to its discussion.
That's fine, me being somewhat wrong about minutes doesn't change the truth. The truth reigns supreme even above your almighty beliefs.
You're a moron. Sitting on an aluminum chair is different than inhaling or ingesting aluminum oxide dust or nanoparticles. How about you go to a manufacturing facility that makes corundum sandpaper and snort some of the corundum dust they have? Totally the same as sitting on a beach chair, lol.
I didn't call it rare, I called it rare in comparison to aluminosilicate. Man your reading comprehension is garbage.
Then you should be able to go look at the evidence and realize you're wrong. Unfortunate that you refuse to even look.
Lol, couldn't you have at least chosen Orlando for this retarded argument? Miami is a 4 hour drive away. But, are you saying that Miami has aluminum raining down on them from rocket launches 200 miles north of them? Wow, you're even more of a chemtrail nut than I am, lol.
I said it's minuscule in comparison to the chemtrails being sprayed all day every day everywhere across the country. Learn to read, please.
2-3 ppb is normal. In some places the concentrations are being measured at 60,000 ppb.
You keep making this mistake thinking that I am going to give you a 300 page document of meticulous proof- I'm not going to. Such documentation does exist, but I will not post it for you in this discussion. You are pathologically dishonest and disingenuous, I owe you nothing except scorn for your behavior.
And yet, such eruptions are not filling the sky with a silver haze every day. Unmarked, untracked airplanes are.
Then kindly fuck off.
You've brought literally zero information, valid or not. You cherry pick, gaslight, and straw man.
Aluminum reactivity is on the level of seconds, not minutes. Nor does it take pressure and temperature and manly exertion, as you maintained. You are wrong because you are wrong. No truth involved. So, it's not the aluminum oxide, it's the particles. Every time I beat your assertion down, you backtrack and reframe your answer. Here's a good source on aluminum toxicity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782734/ It turns out that aluminum in the soil is an old story, the effects are well understood, the sources are everywhere.
What "sliver haze"? That seems to be a new characteristic in this discussion. How did we get from "chemtrails" that are visually indistinguishable from contrails, to "silver haze"? Never seen such a thing. How is it different from a thin overcast? (probably no different)
Volcanic eruptions have filled the entire atmosphere with ash particles for a year or so, causing changes in the appearance of sunsets. We often don't know about the eruption until we get the news.