So, for many years, despite being totally red pilled on pizza gate and a million other things, I still thought the chemtrails theory was suspect (like flat earth is suspect). I felt that the explanation was reasonable that at certain altitudes, temperatures, and humidity levels, contrails could linger for extended periods of time. But, about 3 months ago, instead of a few lingering contrails here and there, it's ramped up to dozens of them almost every single day. After these days, the evening and overnight winds are insane. We've had insane winds most days for MONTHS. Never experienced anything like it in my life, completely ridiculous to pretend it's a natural weather pattern for the region I live in.
So, coinciding with the dramatically increased and regular "lingering contrails", I thought to myself 'I guess I should look into this chemtrail thing a bit.' So, I watched the documentary "What In The World Are They Spraying?" and they presented evidence about astronomically high levels of aluminum in the soil in places where they do this spraying, which causes the PH of the soil to come way up, so I decided to test the soil in my own back yard. Predictably, its PH is WAY high at 7.9. At 7 a lot of plants can't survive have trouble.
Anyway, I'm now thoroughly convinced they're spraying something for some reason, and obviously not a good one. So, I've been paying more attention to what days they spray, and if I could spot a pattern. I've logged in to flight trackers to try and figure out which planes, and I've searched on the internet trying to find others who have already spent years trying to spot the patterns of these flights... But I couldn't find much. There are several websites with a LOT of surface information, but apparently no one has simply logged the days, amount of passes across their airspace, the flight numbers and callsigns (or lack thereof) of the aircraft, and compared these datasets to possible explanations. If any of you know of a place where such data is compiled or presented, I'd love to see it.
Now then, I've hit upon one data point in a possible pattern: after months of total sky covering spraying almost every day, there was no spraying at all across the entire Memorial Day weekend. There are plenty of standard passenger flights across this weekend, the sky was full of planes like it is any other day- but no lingering contrails. Not a single one. Do we ever see lingering contrails spreading across the sky on federal holidays? If not, that's quite a damning coincidence. If we could demonstrate a pattern like that, we could easily shut down the "lingering contrail due to common atmospheric conditions" argument- does the weather take federal holidays off?
Aluminum reactivity is on the level of seconds, not minutes. Nor does it take pressure and temperature and manly exertion, as you maintained. You are wrong because you are wrong. No truth involved. So, it's not the aluminum oxide, it's the particles. Every time I beat your assertion down, you backtrack and reframe your answer. Here's a good source on aluminum toxicity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782734/ It turns out that aluminum in the soil is an old story, the effects are well understood, the sources are everywhere.
What "sliver haze"? That seems to be a new characteristic in this discussion. How did we get from "chemtrails" that are visually indistinguishable from contrails, to "silver haze"? Never seen such a thing. How is it different from a thin overcast? (probably no different)
Volcanic eruptions have filled the entire atmosphere with ash particles for a year or so, causing changes in the appearance of sunsets. We often don't know about the eruption until we get the news.
No, see, the truth remains regardless of me being wrong.
Lol, yeah, the chemtrail alarmists have been raising this alarm for 40-50 years.
A few contrails here and there do not spread out to cover the entire sky with a thin overcast. We do not really ever get thin overcast where I live. I literally have never seen the sky look the way it did the past few months, my entire life. And, I'm from Denmark, I am familiar with overcast skies. The lingering contrail overcast is not the same looking as a natural overcast. Too uniform,, too thin. And, before you say "Oh, I got you, you said they're visually the same!" No, I agreed that a normal contrail and a possible chemtrail might look the same. Neither of those look much like natural clouds.
Yeah, I know, but that's irrelevant because SUCH ERUPTIONS ARE NOT FILLING THE SKY WITH A SILVER HAZE EVERY DAY. UNMARKED, UNTRACKED PLANES ARE. Please learn to read.
Actually, contrails can and do spread, sometimes to create haze. How long have you lived where you live? How long have you lived? Sometimes weather changes. Get used to it. Especially the variety of natural clouds.
Yeah, I fucking know, you idiot, we've been over that already. What they don't do is ramp to 20-30 times over levels ever seen before, completely covering the entire sky from horizon to horizon, almost every day, and on days where they do not, there are literally zero lingering contrails.
Nice try, fed, lol.
Not like that.
You're completely full of shit, lol. You MUST know you're lying, there's no way you could be this dense if you were merely ignorant.
You are reacting to your experience being insignificant on geological time scales. Just because you haven't seen such things "before," doesn't mean they haven't occurred. How many catastrophic volcanic eruptions have you seen? I can count at least one.
You are overwhelmed with paranoia and arrogance. I ask perfectly straight questions (wondering how long you have lived in one place, to assess whether you have credits for claiming to be an expert on "normal") and you denounce me as a "fed." Well, tough luck. Check under your bed before you go to sleep.
And sometimes weather does change "like that." Are you the Old Man of the Mountain, who has been here for centuries? Back to how old are you.
I'm not dense. I'm just not an intellectual pushover, having an extensive background in physics, aeronautics, and atmospheric science. And I have better manners in debate. I can always tell the other party is having a rough time by their recourse to calling names and swearing.