What is this thread all about?
Just a place for general discussion. A place to unload whats on your mind and talk about anything - personal, health, help needed, achievements, daily highs and daily lows, theories, predictions and what have you.
Does not need to be Q related.
Sussman walks free (for now) and we Anons are smiling because we understand this is just a small piece of a bigger puzzle.
Everyday more inconsistencies emerge in the Uvalde shooting, and even our sleeping frens and family are asking us what we think went on there.
Biden tried to make amendments to the WHO Regulations to essentially make all the countries hand over the sovereignty of their countries to WHO, but Brazil has managed to keep this in check. Is this going to be another BBB moment?
Most people who took the double jabs are refusing to take the booster and some are even openly regretting their initial jabs and angry at being lied to.
Bill Gates' smirking everytime he mentions any major world tragedy has finally started to raise questions even amongst the normies.
One day when our grand kids ask us what it was like to be in this Biblical moment of Great Awakening, I am sure all these will be part of the story we tell them. In the meantime moar wins please!!
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Hey, Beat_it.
Apologies for the late reply. Been occupied with a few things.
Thank you for your kind comments. Splitting this reply into two separate comments, as I go over the character limit.
Your last comment is, in my view, wise, re: Mis-steps and interferences.
I have quite a few thoughts on how Revelations relates to the Great Awakening, but I'd like offer a few ideas that I think are relevant when approaching this topic:
One, consider where we are intellectually today and how the intellectual level of humanity has developed over the past 4000+ years (aka the known biblical periods, not including the period from Adam to Abraham).
What was the intellectual capacity of people alive in Jesus time, for example? Did they understand even basic complex mathematics? Did they have a clear working knowledge of biology? of chemistry or physics? From the viewpoint of intellect, we see that there has been massive development over the last 2000, and in particular, since the Renaissance. How does our intellect impact on how we interpret God’s word?
I'm not disregarding or disrespecting the value of the moral understanding of our forebears. Morally, spiritually, many were in a much better condition than a lot of people today (consider the number of people who have fallen into ignorance even about the existence of God today (aka they do not even believe that God exists, and cannot recognize his presence in their lives or the world)).
Moral and spiritual understanding are different from intellectual understanding. However, God created human beings with the capacity for both, and both are designed to complement each other. So the point I'm making here is that historically, our intellectual understanding has been raised in order to complement and reciprocate with our moral and spiritual understanding.
People like Peter, James, John, Paul, etc., had very limited intellectual capacity. Not saying they were dumb, but overall, compared to today, there was much less intellectual development in those times, and they had much less developed capacity to grasp, reason and resolve things intellectually.
Today, however, even high school students can study and grasp levels of maths, science (biology, chem, physics, etc) and highly complex systems etc, beyond what even the most intelligent person in the preceding 4000+ plus years could grasp or understand. Also, we are for the most part trained to think logically about things.
This is one reason why the theological explanations of the scripture developed in the way they did; they were coming from a moral/spiritual base, but with (comparatively) very limited intellectual basis.
So, when scripture says something "Elisha saw Elijah go to Heaven in a fiery chariot", most people could only conceive of that in literal terms of a physical chariot and Elijah somehow going up in the physical sky (to disappear somewhere until he returns....).
However, we know and understand today from our grasp of the laws of physics and biology, etc., that there is no where in the upper atmosphere where Elijah could hang around, alive, and wait to return. Also, that fiery chariot... was it a horse and chariot, or some sort of spacecraft, or what?
Today, some people try to resolve the discrepancy and contradictions between their scriptural understanding (based on centuries of theory and interpretations made by people who understood nothing about physics, chem, biology, etc) on one hand and the reality of our highly developed intellectual understanding of the sciences on the other by appealing to the idea of "miracles".
E.g. Elijah going into 'heaven' the upper atmosphere in the sky was somehow a miracle and he was miraculously transported (by some miracle) to a place where he stayed until it was time to return. The modern intellect asks “How does that make sense?" The answer many people come up with, based on traditional theological interpretations, is “Well, it's a miracle, and we cannot understand God's miracles...! So that is that. Next question?”
Others might appeal to science fiction-type solutions. Eg. Elijah was transported by a space vehicle provided by super-intelligent extraterrestrial aliens, and was transported to (a space station or a colony or the moon or to another planet or star system, or to a base on Antarctica) etc.
However, neither of these solutions are based on knowledge. For that reason, the contrasting elements of scripture/faith on one hand and science/intellect on the other – which appear contradictory - are only superficially resolved, by sacrificing one or the other. Extremists will even say “well, obviously scripture is hogwash, because ...... (science).” But if we know and believe that scripture is true, then somehow, we need to resolve the (apparent) contradictions.
Two, consider the nature of Faith. Logically, and intellectually, we can understand that true faith is faith based in and rooted in knowledge. We cannot believe in Jesus if we know nothing about him. We need the knowledge – which is imparted via the Word and historical record – as the foundation to begin developing faith.
Faith grows through three distinct stages in order to become true or mature faith.
The first stage is blind faith - faith of a child. The heart is open, and so it believes, uncritically. The second stage is questioning faith - faith of the questioning adolescent. Critical thinking has emerged, and now the believer is questioning the things he was taught and believes. (Note: In the modern world, many people are derailed at this stage, because they cannot resolve the contradiction between their intellectual knowledge and logic, and the existing interpretations of the Scripture.)
The third stage is faith with knowledge - the faith of the spiritual ‘adult’. The person has grappled with contradictions, come to understand more clearly what is false and what is true, and through actual experience now KNOWS the things that his faith is rooted in.
This is what Paul was alluding to when he said "When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I set aside childish ways. Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known." 1 Cor 13:12
First, he's explaining that one's understanding of things grows in the same way that a child grows to manhood. Then, he explains where "we" are (where they were) at that time: dim reflection, knowing (understanding) only in part.
So, let’s bring together these two points: the development of intellect and the development of faith. (Continued in next comment)