EVs are a dead end. Ford knows it too. The Biden Administration along with the financial influencers (Davos schemers) are pushing this as a part of the Great Reset. The American worker will suffer greatly from this scam.
They are being promoted for now, but soon they will be forced on Americans except EVs will be priced out of the market, in which few Americans will be able to afford one. The technology will not change enough to make them anywhere near as inexpensive and time efficient as current ICE and Diesel vehicles. Have you wondered why fuel prices are sky rocketing? Do you wonder why automobile prices keep going up and up? Have you wondered why over 90% of repairs are computer related? The reason for this is the globalist cabal do not want you and I to own a vehicle. They have long ago decided that the roads must be cleared of individual owned vehicles. They have long said there are too many automobiles on the streets and have promoted mass transit. They envision forcing you and I to take mass transit. TSA will have the final say on whether you and I can take mass transit. Vaxxx passports anyone? If you don't submit to this, you'll not be allowed to take mass transit, but you and I will be allowed to ride a bicycle or walk. Good luck with that.
In a real capitalism this is theoretically true. However, we do not have a real capitalist economy. Government changes that and creates great imbalances. The history of hemp (not marijuana) is a classic example of government destroying one industry for the favor of a crony led industry.. It is the same reason why Ivermectin and HCL are greatly suppressed by our government. It is the same reason why Amazon and Facebook exist.
Your questions here are very good. They deserve answers. Someone down-voted my other reply to you that was a concurring corollary to your comment. The information I set forth there are factual. Now, who would down-vote something like this?
"But the reality is, they no "greener" than ICE vehicles when evaluated in total,..."
Rhetorically speaking, what does "greener" actually mean? I never could understand this because CO2 is required for plants for survival. It's a paradox.
I regret the copy paste I provided below, but it emphasizes the real agenda has nothing to do with the need to become "greener", but has everything to do with absolute control over your ability to travel.
Climate change (formally “global warming”) is predicated on the lie that since the industrial revolution, the planet has been warming due to human-created air pollution (CO2). This in turn creates a green house effect, thus warming the average global temperature, melting ice, raising sea levels, killing wildlife, etc, etc, we’re all going to die. The “science” of course doesn’t hold up as it is based on the idea that the earth has a homeostasis for global temperature. The MSM couldn’t use the term “global warming” anymore as it was too descriptive and vulnerable to scrutiny. By changing it to “climate change” the lie becomes more ambiguous. Those who found that the earth is actually cooling, can still fall under the umbrella of climate change. You just won’t hear from them on the MSM because that’s not part of the plan. Yes, the earth certainly goes through cyclical changes in climate, but there is no “real” evidence supporting the claim that we play a massive role in either altering, or contributing to this cycle. I have plans to write a thorough article on this massive hoax, but today I want to focus on a portion of its agenda, to make all privately owned vehicles electric.
The move to eventually replace all combustion engines with fully EV (Electric Vehicles) has been declared by numerous car manufactures such as Toyota, Ford, Volkswagen, GM. The reasoning behind this momentous transformation is to reduce CO2 emissions produced by their vehicles, and save the earth from climate change. Apart from the hypocrisy of creating tons of pollution to mine lithium, EV’s are expensive and, as of now, not very practical
Although there are models of EV’s claiming a 400mi range, the combined average range for all Ev’s on the market is around 200mi. These tests are also done, using a full charge. Fully charging your EV is not recommended as it puts additional stress on the battery to charge from 90% to 100%. The recommended maximum charge to prolong the health of your battery caps off at 80%. So in reality, EV’s are getting around 150-160mi per charge on average in a real world situation. They aren’t practical at all if you want to go on a road trip. If for some reason you do take one out for a cross country tour, you better plan ahead as there are only 45,000 charging stations across the US, compared to 150,000 gas stations. Instead of a 3min fill up at a gas station, be prepared to wait 30-45min to charge your EV every time.
If your only commuting is based in a large metro area where gas prices are obscene, then EV’s are a decent option. The problem is they don’t want EV’s to just be an option, they want them to be law. Washington just became the newest state to outlaw the sale of combustion engines by the ambitious year 2030.
Washington Governor Jay Inslee stated:
“all publicly owned and privately owned passenger and light duty vehicles of model year 2030 or later that are sold, purchased, or registered in Washington state be electric vehicles”
That being said, Ev’s are slowly increasing their range, decreasing their time to charge, and charging stations are sprouting quickly across the globe. By the year 2030 or 2035 EV’s might actually be a practical mode of transportation for road trips, trucking, etc.
The irony in pushing the EV agenda is that the electricity the cars use mostly comes from fossil fuels. Let’s see what Rob Smith wrote on the WEF’s (World Economic Forum) website.
The actual long term issue with EV’s is that…well they are electric, and electricity can be turned off or denied.
The real agenda here is to control your ability to travel.
Charging stations don’t give you the option to pay in cash. They all require either a bar code connected to a virtual wallet that you scan through your phone/key-tag, or by using a debit/credit card. Here lies the actual motivation for going electric, as the globalist agenda to go cashless draws closer.
The globalists have planned and are scheduling the rollout of CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency).
Biden’s Executive Order 14030 “U.S. Climate-Related Financial Risk”, administers the use of ESG scores (Environmental, Social, corporate Governance) in the US. This is essentially the same thing as China’s social credit score. Another executive order he signed early last month “Ensuring Responsible Development of Digital Assets” is encouraging the federal reserve to continue its research in developing a CBDC for the US.
When centralized digital currency becomes an institution, the government will have full control of what you can and cannot buy. All digital money transactions will be monitored by a central computer. If the government thinks you are a political danger to them, or that your carbon footprint exceeds the federal limit, they can simply deny any transactions you might want to make. This of course goes way beyond being able to travel freely. Nonetheless, your ability to traverse the country is an important freedom that the globalists plan on taking away.
If you look at a map of existing EV charging stations, it becomes apparent that they are being strategically located to corral the public into mega population centers (democratic cities). The gas station you’d normally find in a small town in the Great Plains will disappear, forcing populations to draw nearer and nearer to big cities. This makes monitoring, and controlling the public herd much more feasible for the globalists.
I have nothing against the technology of EV’s. I actually think it’s pretty neat they exist. They just aren’t as practical or useful as combustion engine vehicles. This is the real reason why the inferior EV is being thrown at us against our will. It isn’t and never was about saving the earth, it’s about limiting and controlling your freedom to travel.
Starting price is about $60 thousand and going up. Most Americans already can't afford this. The range for a brand new fully charged battery is at best 300 miles. After the first charge the mileage will lessen with every charge. The frequency of charging the battery along with the amount of time to charge increases as time goes on.
An Electric Vehicle (EV) will lose about 50% of their power in freezing temperatures.
Fast charging an EV ( about 30 to 50 minutes) is BAD for the battery and will shorten its life.
Charging on 120 volt takes THREE DAYS!!!
Charging on 1220 Volt takes all night.
EV manufacturers say to not leave your EV in the sun all day as heat is bad for the battery( yes they are that fragile ).
Well informed people know that the rare earth metals necessary to build EVs come at 90% from China which means China holds the battery industry by the balls.
Lithium is a comparatively rare element, although it is found in many rocks and some brines, but always in very low concentrations. The lithium extraction process uses a lot of water—approximately 500,000 gallons per metric ton of lithium. It takes between 12 and 18 months of an evaporation process, the mixture is filtered sufficiently that lithium carbonate can be extracted. Lithium prices doubled between 2016 and 2018 due to exponentially increasing demand.
Most cobalt or lithium mines are in poor nations where workers are underpaid and mistreated PLUS mining for those uses billions of gallons of water that is then contaminated and rejected in the environment (so much for pollution!).
During the Obama-Biden administration, hydraulic fracturing was accused of causing a number of environmental problems—faucets on fire, contamination of drinking water, etc.—but the administration’s own Environmental Protection Agency could not validate those accusations. Mining and processing of lithium, however, turns out to be far more environmentally harmful than what turned out to be the unfounded issues with fracking.
Lithium-ion batteries can go into a “thermal runaway” due to a production error or damage. It is an irreversible process in which the battery will ignite, resulting in the release of toxic gases, flash flames and some explosions. Due to the increase in the number of incidents involving lithium-ion batteries, insurers are increasing premiums and asking companies to take adequate security measures. In EVs, think of the vehicle accidents and the danger. Know that Lithium battery fires and accidents are on the rise and present risks. Even disposal of Lithium batteries have caused a number of fires and explosions in consumer products and at recycling plants in the U.S.
It's a big con game for ending private ownership of automobiles and to force the public to take mass transportation. This will be forced on us just like the face masks and 'COVID' vaxx. Most people will not be able to afford or depend on EVs. Biden said 2 years ago he was going to put the oil industry out of business. Today, SoT Buttigieg confirmed forcing the public to take mass transportation is in fact their plan.
FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS OF EARTH to make ONE Electric Vehicle Battery!
1. A cost that is NOW moving towards $300,000 (THREE HUNDRED THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) for a replacement battery.
2. NO PLAN FOR HANDLING CORROSIVE EV BATTERY WASTE.
3. Ok, people! You can’t be THAT STUPID unless you are being bribed.
4. The People are aware that this whole EV push is part of the WEF Great Reset which we are NOT having.
Killing more and more jobs is what I see....who the hell they think will buy all this shit when everyone is starving? Not a very well thought out business plan here. Hell will freeze over before I drive one of these hellish vehicles that require strip mining of vast quantities of earth to make just 1 fucking battery. Idiots. Oil is renewable anyway. Ask drillers. They know. Peak oil was a scam. Just like everything else.
He’s foolish to think he can determine the price. If people don’t like his price, there are tons of other car manufacturers that will negotiate. The only way I would agree to a non negotiable price is if it’s way lower than the other companies and I’m sure it won’t be.
EVs are a dead end. Ford knows it too. The Biden Administration along with the financial influencers (Davos schemers) are pushing this as a part of the Great Reset. The American worker will suffer greatly from this scam.
They are being promoted for now, but soon they will be forced on Americans except EVs will be priced out of the market, in which few Americans will be able to afford one. The technology will not change enough to make them anywhere near as inexpensive and time efficient as current ICE and Diesel vehicles. Have you wondered why fuel prices are sky rocketing? Do you wonder why automobile prices keep going up and up? Have you wondered why over 90% of repairs are computer related? The reason for this is the globalist cabal do not want you and I to own a vehicle. They have long ago decided that the roads must be cleared of individual owned vehicles. They have long said there are too many automobiles on the streets and have promoted mass transit. They envision forcing you and I to take mass transit. TSA will have the final say on whether you and I can take mass transit. Vaxxx passports anyone? If you don't submit to this, you'll not be allowed to take mass transit, but you and I will be allowed to ride a bicycle or walk. Good luck with that.
Move to the country and buy a horse. Worked fine for thousands of years.
They'll come after that too. Government is control....absolute control.
people have revolted over much less
/thread
Customers determine price, basic economics.
In a real capitalism this is theoretically true. However, we do not have a real capitalist economy. Government changes that and creates great imbalances. The history of hemp (not marijuana) is a classic example of government destroying one industry for the favor of a crony led industry.. It is the same reason why Ivermectin and HCL are greatly suppressed by our government. It is the same reason why Amazon and Facebook exist.
Your questions here are very good. They deserve answers. Someone down-voted my other reply to you that was a concurring corollary to your comment. The information I set forth there are factual. Now, who would down-vote something like this?
Rhetorically speaking, what does "greener" actually mean? I never could understand this because CO2 is required for plants for survival. It's a paradox.
I regret the copy paste I provided below, but it emphasizes the real agenda has nothing to do with the need to become "greener", but has everything to do with absolute control over your ability to travel.
Climate change (formally “global warming”) is predicated on the lie that since the industrial revolution, the planet has been warming due to human-created air pollution (CO2). This in turn creates a green house effect, thus warming the average global temperature, melting ice, raising sea levels, killing wildlife, etc, etc, we’re all going to die. The “science” of course doesn’t hold up as it is based on the idea that the earth has a homeostasis for global temperature. The MSM couldn’t use the term “global warming” anymore as it was too descriptive and vulnerable to scrutiny. By changing it to “climate change” the lie becomes more ambiguous. Those who found that the earth is actually cooling, can still fall under the umbrella of climate change. You just won’t hear from them on the MSM because that’s not part of the plan. Yes, the earth certainly goes through cyclical changes in climate, but there is no “real” evidence supporting the claim that we play a massive role in either altering, or contributing to this cycle. I have plans to write a thorough article on this massive hoax, but today I want to focus on a portion of its agenda, to make all privately owned vehicles electric.
The move to eventually replace all combustion engines with fully EV (Electric Vehicles) has been declared by numerous car manufactures such as Toyota, Ford, Volkswagen, GM. The reasoning behind this momentous transformation is to reduce CO2 emissions produced by their vehicles, and save the earth from climate change. Apart from the hypocrisy of creating tons of pollution to mine lithium, EV’s are expensive and, as of now, not very practical
Although there are models of EV’s claiming a 400mi range, the combined average range for all Ev’s on the market is around 200mi. These tests are also done, using a full charge. Fully charging your EV is not recommended as it puts additional stress on the battery to charge from 90% to 100%. The recommended maximum charge to prolong the health of your battery caps off at 80%. So in reality, EV’s are getting around 150-160mi per charge on average in a real world situation. They aren’t practical at all if you want to go on a road trip. If for some reason you do take one out for a cross country tour, you better plan ahead as there are only 45,000 charging stations across the US, compared to 150,000 gas stations. Instead of a 3min fill up at a gas station, be prepared to wait 30-45min to charge your EV every time.
If your only commuting is based in a large metro area where gas prices are obscene, then EV’s are a decent option. The problem is they don’t want EV’s to just be an option, they want them to be law. Washington just became the newest state to outlaw the sale of combustion engines by the ambitious year 2030.
Washington Governor Jay Inslee stated:
“all publicly owned and privately owned passenger and light duty vehicles of model year 2030 or later that are sold, purchased, or registered in Washington state be electric vehicles”
That being said, Ev’s are slowly increasing their range, decreasing their time to charge, and charging stations are sprouting quickly across the globe. By the year 2030 or 2035 EV’s might actually be a practical mode of transportation for road trips, trucking, etc.
The irony in pushing the EV agenda is that the electricity the cars use mostly comes from fossil fuels. Let’s see what Rob Smith wrote on the WEF’s (World Economic Forum) website.
“While these vehicles obviously run on electricity, that electricity typically comes from a mix of emissions-intensive fossil fuels, nuclear energy, and power from renewables. That is, unless you live in country like Norway, which generates virtually all of its electricity from hydropower. But Norway is the exception rather than the rule.”
The surprising truth behind the world's electric cars
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/03/electric-cars-are-still-coal-powered/
The actual long term issue with EV’s is that…well they are electric, and electricity can be turned off or denied.
The real agenda here is to control your ability to travel.
Charging stations don’t give you the option to pay in cash. They all require either a bar code connected to a virtual wallet that you scan through your phone/key-tag, or by using a debit/credit card. Here lies the actual motivation for going electric, as the globalist agenda to go cashless draws closer.
The globalists have planned and are scheduling the rollout of CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency).
Biden’s Executive Order 14030 “U.S. Climate-Related Financial Risk”, administers the use of ESG scores (Environmental, Social, corporate Governance) in the US. This is essentially the same thing as China’s social credit score. Another executive order he signed early last month “Ensuring Responsible Development of Digital Assets” is encouraging the federal reserve to continue its research in developing a CBDC for the US.
When centralized digital currency becomes an institution, the government will have full control of what you can and cannot buy. All digital money transactions will be monitored by a central computer. If the government thinks you are a political danger to them, or that your carbon footprint exceeds the federal limit, they can simply deny any transactions you might want to make. This of course goes way beyond being able to travel freely. Nonetheless, your ability to traverse the country is an important freedom that the globalists plan on taking away. If you look at a map of existing EV charging stations, it becomes apparent that they are being strategically located to corral the public into mega population centers (democratic cities). The gas station you’d normally find in a small town in the Great Plains will disappear, forcing populations to draw nearer and nearer to big cities. This makes monitoring, and controlling the public herd much more feasible for the globalists.
I have nothing against the technology of EV’s. I actually think it’s pretty neat they exist. They just aren’t as practical or useful as combustion engine vehicles. This is the real reason why the inferior EV is being thrown at us against our will. It isn’t and never was about saving the earth, it’s about limiting and controlling your freedom to travel.
Here's the skinny on Electric Vehicles (EVs):
Starting price is about $60 thousand and going up. Most Americans already can't afford this. The range for a brand new fully charged battery is at best 300 miles. After the first charge the mileage will lessen with every charge. The frequency of charging the battery along with the amount of time to charge increases as time goes on.
An Electric Vehicle (EV) will lose about 50% of their power in freezing temperatures.
Fast charging an EV ( about 30 to 50 minutes) is BAD for the battery and will shorten its life.
Charging on 120 volt takes THREE DAYS!!!
Charging on 1220 Volt takes all night.
EV manufacturers say to not leave your EV in the sun all day as heat is bad for the battery( yes they are that fragile ).
Well informed people know that the rare earth metals necessary to build EVs come at 90% from China which means China holds the battery industry by the balls.
Lithium is a comparatively rare element, although it is found in many rocks and some brines, but always in very low concentrations. The lithium extraction process uses a lot of water—approximately 500,000 gallons per metric ton of lithium. It takes between 12 and 18 months of an evaporation process, the mixture is filtered sufficiently that lithium carbonate can be extracted. Lithium prices doubled between 2016 and 2018 due to exponentially increasing demand.
Most cobalt or lithium mines are in poor nations where workers are underpaid and mistreated PLUS mining for those uses billions of gallons of water that is then contaminated and rejected in the environment (so much for pollution!).
During the Obama-Biden administration, hydraulic fracturing was accused of causing a number of environmental problems—faucets on fire, contamination of drinking water, etc.—but the administration’s own Environmental Protection Agency could not validate those accusations. Mining and processing of lithium, however, turns out to be far more environmentally harmful than what turned out to be the unfounded issues with fracking.
Lithium-ion batteries can go into a “thermal runaway” due to a production error or damage. It is an irreversible process in which the battery will ignite, resulting in the release of toxic gases, flash flames and some explosions. Due to the increase in the number of incidents involving lithium-ion batteries, insurers are increasing premiums and asking companies to take adequate security measures. In EVs, think of the vehicle accidents and the danger. Know that Lithium battery fires and accidents are on the rise and present risks. Even disposal of Lithium batteries have caused a number of fires and explosions in consumer products and at recycling plants in the U.S.
It's a big con game for ending private ownership of automobiles and to force the public to take mass transportation. This will be forced on us just like the face masks and 'COVID' vaxx. Most people will not be able to afford or depend on EVs. Biden said 2 years ago he was going to put the oil industry out of business. Today, SoT Buttigieg confirmed forcing the public to take mass transportation is in fact their plan.
FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS OF EARTH to make ONE Electric Vehicle Battery!
Why They Are Really Pushing Electric Vehicles Hint: It's Not About The Climate by Aristotle Dongas
https://aristotlesnewsletter.substack.com/p/why-they-are-really-pushing-electric?s=r
Killing more and more jobs is what I see....who the hell they think will buy all this shit when everyone is starving? Not a very well thought out business plan here. Hell will freeze over before I drive one of these hellish vehicles that require strip mining of vast quantities of earth to make just 1 fucking battery. Idiots. Oil is renewable anyway. Ask drillers. They know. Peak oil was a scam. Just like everything else.
He’s foolish to think he can determine the price. If people don’t like his price, there are tons of other car manufacturers that will negotiate. The only way I would agree to a non negotiable price is if it’s way lower than the other companies and I’m sure it won’t be.
I like ford brand the best but as for an electric vehicle I would rather go with one made for over ten years at least.