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I grew up in a big baptist church, with a sex abuse problem. I later joined the Mormon church and met lots of idiots who said it couldn't happen with them. I could see some of the patterns, there seemed to be a few super religious kinda creepy guys around. Pedos like to be overly good in other ways to make up for there disgusting habits. so I'm considered weirdly protective of my kids but that's ok with me.
I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. Unfortunately any time humans are involved there is the potential for abuse of some kind. No group has a monopoly on virtue or sin.
Yep.
Bottom line is your spiritual relationship should be with God....not men who claim to speak for God.
One of the problems in previous years was that the bishops always insisted on dealing with it internally. Reports of child abuse weren't reported to the police or child protective services.
I grew up in the church.
The church was, by far, the most strict institution I have ever participated in when it comes to abuse.
When the church separated from the Boy Scouts, they introduced their own training materials for child protection. It is more strict than the BSA. Two deep at all times. No rides with only one adult. Adults must be same sex or a married couple. Report even the slightest suspicion to authorities and the bishop. Learn how to identify grooming and abuse. Etc...
Every time I have encountered an individual such as yourself who claims the church is rampant with abuse and such, and I question you why you did not report it to the authorities, or the bishop, I am met with silence.
Go ahead, name names. If they abused kids, they have no right to privacy. The public needs to know who they are and what you saw, and you need to testify in court so they can never harm another person.
I grew up Baptist, and had similar experiences. To this day I get creeped out by uber religious people.
I don't know how people can STILL be so adamant that religious people ( no matter which denomination) can't be sexual predators.
My stepmother is still saying that Duggar kid that's been in the news lately was set up because she can't believe holy rollers can do wrong.
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No one is preventing you from doing it now.
All your rationalizations is really just you giving into fear....and that's what they want.
Maybe your role in life was to experience this and stop it so other innocents don't have to suffer?
The authorities are in on it too. You awake?
Name names. I'm on your side. Let's get justice.
Ears open.
Name names.
Let's get justice.
It is hard for the abused to come forward when the powerstructure is corrupt and deeply involved. If a victim can come forward safely they absolutely should. To who though?
Overly strict rules are a sign that there is a problem with whatever the rules are trying to prevent. You dont need a "keep off the grass" sign if everyone is using the sidewalk. The worst part is when these rules are just an illusion for plausable deniability.
If no one comes forward no justice can be done.
Reveal the crime. Reveal those who hide the crimes. Stop empowering them.
I agree with you here, but unfortunately the child or children are often taken from their home and put in homes with strangers. Even if they are lucky, and they aren't abused in new ways, they suffer from the loss of other family members, cherished pets, friends, etc., and the difficulty of being thrown in with a completely different "family" culture. It really is terribly traumatizing. Obviously, it can't always be avoided. Some parents are homicidal sadists, but so are some foster parents.
I named names once. I was an adult and not actually involved it just looked pretty sketchy. They decided there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute. I'm pretty sure it was true the guy was excommunicated. Then the whole area had to follow the "overly strict" rules. I had to listen to so much whining. I told a couple people what I knew about the gruesome why, then they understood. But I felt weird going around popping people's little innocent bubbles.
I think Mormons are better then most at safety but there are lots of sick people out there and a church with tons of kids is a good target.
True. Our kids are pure and naive. We adults in the church have a duty to protect.
When a criminal is named, we take action.
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Yeah okay its not rampant in any church ever because YOUR CHURCH does things right. Very nice. Thanks. Ill let all the victims know. Stay humble
I appreciate you sharing your experience. I’m a member of the Church. Unfortunately any time humans are involved there is the potential for abuse. I admire people like you who are able to deal with and overcome abuse.
Why do Mormon girls have big ankles?
Don't get me wrong. I kinda like big ankles. I would like to have a few Mormon wives.
If only they would open their eyes and pay some damn attention! Im here in Utah ready to talk to my girlfriends about how Q is taking down the blood cult and their like “wat is Epstein Island?” Fluoride stare. Ugh.