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Is taking Plan B like an abortion?
posted 4 years ago by NewbieQbie 4 years ago by NewbieQbie +9 / -0

As conservatives we are all against abortion. But a friend of mine posed the question: is taking Plan B similar to an abortion?

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– sleepydude 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Plan B causes a woman to shed the lining in her uterus, which expels any zygotes that successfully formed.

If you think life begins at conception, then yes, it's an abortion.

That being said, I personally don't compare it to a full-on abortion because surgery is not performed. Plan B is a drug, and I dislike drugs being restricted on the off chance that if a drug like Plan B ends up being the cure for cancer, then we just restricted the population from being able to treat itself because a few bad eggs wanna kill their babies in the womb.

We should outlaw the act, not the means to perform said act. People should be held accountable, not drugs or property.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Do you not consider medication abortion (abortion pills: mifepristone & misoprostol) to be "full-on abortion"? Same result, different methods.

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– Kissaki 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

A cup of tea can induce an abortion, especially in the first trimester. The issue to me is doctors who perform the procedure, it used to be in the Hippocratic oath not to do so. Medical pros should be charged with murder, but you can't stop a mom from drinking certain teas. The issue with banning drugs it that it is inappropriate in a free society.

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– sleepydude 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If you drink too much and lose the baby, is that an abortion?

If you eat too much of a foreign dinner with exotic spices and lose the baby, is that an abortion?

If you do too many squats when pregnant and lose the baby, is that an abortion?

Tearing pieces of a baby out of the womb is in a different class than a forced miscarriage.

What matters is intent. Did you intentionally lose the child?

Then that's murder. No different than if you kill people your rented a house out to because they take nine months to evict. If you can't wait the nine months then you shouldn't have rented out your property. It doesn't matter how you killed them, with a coat hanger to the throat or by hiring a hitman, your actions led to the death of a living thing.

Personally, I believe an abortion is anything that intentionally terminates a pregnancy.

Why I have to draw distinctions is because of the difficulty in legally classifying the act. Intent is hard to prove. If a woman just exercises too much when pregnant, it's hard to prove she knew it would kill the baby. Accidents DO happen, so throwing an innocent woman who was stupid and did squats during pregnancy in jail is wrong. How can you tell she didn't have intent? Ultimately, it's better that a criminal go free than an innocent rot in prison, and that's a hard pill to swallow outside the pages of a law book.

If they take a drug that says "will terminate pregnancy", however, then that proves intent, but that doesn't mean the drug should be taken off the market. If it helps in some other way, it shouldn't be regulated because of what it CAN do.

Mifepristone & Misoprostol can do more than abort babies, it just so happens that's what they're "best" at. They might have properties that cure IBMS for all we know, but we might never find that out if they are over-regulated, which would be a shame for everyone with IBMS.

If someone intentionally uses Mifepristone and Misoprostol for an abortion, then sure, lock 'em up.

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– KeepForgetting_PW 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The process you just described is that of RU-486, the “abortion pill” — not Plan B which only attempts to prevent the release of eggs from the uterus using the same hormones that oral contraceptives use.

So even if you believe that restricting the development of a fertilized egg is an abortion, Plan B is not.

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– sleepydude 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If I remembe right, eggs get fertilized in the fallopian tubes and then migrates to the uterus where it then implants itself into the uterus.

I'm not sure where Plan B would fit in otherwise. Once an egg is in the uterus, it's either destined to be expelled during the next period or it's already a viable zygote.

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– Imwideawake 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Plan B delays ovulation. It won’t cause a termination. In fact, progesterone, (which is what plan B is) is given to try to prevent miscarriage. So it won’t harm a pregnancy if one does occur.

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– mjs001 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yes. Assuming that the egg has been fertilized by a sperm, the (naturally) irreversible process of development of a new human has begun. So the day after pill kills that nascent developing life, hence aborts it. It may be too small to see with the naked eye and not have any recognizable human characteristics, but give time and being left alone, it is a person. The question is when does a baby get a soul and become a person. God says it is at the point of conception.

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– NobodyLikesSplatter 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/plan-b

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– VoatAnon1984 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Plan B is what America is experiencing right now.

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– Smallworld16 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I think plan b is like a spermicide. You can’t use plan b once you are pregnant, just like a condom it’s a preventative. HOWEVER, the shit in this stufff is probably terrible for your body.

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– NobodyLikesSplatter 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

From what I understand, it’s for use after unprotected sex to prevent conception. It doesn’t terminate a pregnancy. It’s just for those who say, forgot their pill or otherwise have doubts about their contraception or just flat out blew it off, rape and such.

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– NicoleDuhtrole 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

One important thing to consider is that the baby is not collected for use in "research" or whatever they do.

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– KeepForgetting_PW 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Plan B is not the same as the “abortion pill” which prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine lining by shedding it. Plan B is a high dose of hormones found in normal birth control pills that prevents eggs from being released and does nothing to prevent pregnancy if an egg has already been released and fertilized. It is by definition a contraceptive.

Some view all forms of contraceptives as akin to abortion and sinful, whether pills or condoms. Others only view abortion as removing a developing fetus from the womb, while most conservatives believe it includes intentionally preventing a fertilized egg from developing. In the latter definition, Plan B is not an abortion and should be considered with the same judgement as oral contraceptives.

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– KeepForgetting_PW 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

For perspective, IVF is closer to abortion than Plan B contraceptive pills, as many fertilized eggs are “discarded” during the process.

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