There is no god in the Bible to blaspheme against.
I know a lot about Jacob..do you?
He deceived his blind father and got the blessings meant for his brother...all the animals all the wealth.. everything. ..whole inheritence..then he was deceived by his father in law and got drunk and had sex with eldest daughter put in his bed and had to wait seven years for his intended.
He didn't fall outwith his father in law they came to an agreement..two elohim were involved..elohim had two camps to honour this agreement.
Then Jacob thinking the heat would be off him returned home but hears Easau is after him so he settles in Schochem.
And one of his sons has sex with the chief of schochems daughter. He wants to marry her. The father agrees. He says there is lots of land they can all live together in peace Jacobs sons say ok but yahweh insists that every man be circumcised so all the men agree to it....
On the third day while they were so sore Jacobs sons attacked and killed every man woman and child as yahweh ordered. Yahweh had the abdomen fat of the women and babies as a burnt offering ..he had COMMANDMENTS on how to do offerings
THen elohim says go to Bethel and reside build an altar to elohim who shows himself to you...do he went to cuz el benel
After that he was called Israel..
think he fitted in with the vicious elohim quite well
You had to worship the elohim whose land you were in..pay tithes ..etc
There is no god in the Bible to blaspheme against.
I don't agree.
I know a lot about Jacob..do you?
I know plenty
He deceived his blind father and got the blessings meant for his brother...all the animals all the wealth.. everything. ..whole inheritence..then he was deceived by his father in law and got drunk and had sex with eldest daughter put in his bed and had to wait seven years for his intended.
his name is similar to meaning deceiver. So that makes sense
he took his brothers inheritance and offered it back many years later.
he actually spent 7 years plus 7 years plus additional years.
He didn't fall outwith his father in law they came to an agreement..two elohim were involved..elohim had two camps to honour this agreement.
You are speaking of the alter built? Speak english too. What's elohim in English.
Then Jacob thinking the heat would be off him returned home but hears Easau is after him so he settles in Schochem.
He was definitely afraid that his brother with his many men would be killed.
And one of his sons has sex with the chief of schochems daughter. He wants to marry her. The father agrees. He says there is lots of land they can all live together in peace Jacobs sons say ok but yahweh insists that every man be circumcised so all the men agree to it....
correct
On the third day while they were so sore Jacobs sons attacked and killed every man woman and child as yahweh ordered. Yahweh had the abdomen fat of the women and babies as a burnt offering ..he had COMMANDMENTS on how to do offerings
they killed them yes. Where does it say in the Bible they had the abdomen fat of the women and babies as a burnt offering.
THen elohim says go to Bethel and reside build an altar to elohim who shows himself to you...do he went to cuz el benel
After that he was called Israel..
think he fitted in with the vicious elohim quite well
You had to worship the elohim whose land you were in..pay tithes ..etc
Did I know him better than you?
no, I would say you read the same story I did.
howsoever there are some things you should know.
people are broken, all of gods people and the entire line that Jesus came from was broken just because God made a convenient or looked favorably to certain people doesn't mean they were without faults. These people back then lived like mad max. You kill and take and do things we wouldn't do in today's luxury.
you seem to have knowledge of what is written in the Bible but also seem to make up things that aren't in it.
You say there is no god in the Bible. Genesis 1.
Either the Bible is false, so don't use it. Or the Bible is true, so don't add to it.
Yes you agree they killed them men women and children. At yahweh s command all were killed. So are you saying this yahweh is the god in the Bible you worship..pray to?
A lot isn't in king James Bible..it's in other bibles..creation stories. It's also in the jewish Bible the Torah the Zohar etc. All 163 commandments of yahweh are there.
Elohim is the name for the elohim..it cannot be transcribed. When you read the word God or lord or arch angel or judges or mallaci or kings they are the elohim.
When you moved to a different land and a different elohim you had to raise an altar..a bit like flying the flag I am presuming..there who you pay your silver sheKel's to etc
I don't have to do anything!
There is no god in the Bible..only the recounting of the tribe of Jacobs tale of what happened when the elohim invaded the earth. They called themselves gods lords etc but everyone knew they were the elohim and were terrified of them..to meet one could be instant death and they would rape your mother your daughter your bride.
Now if you want to pretend they are god that's up to you but a transcendental omnipotent omnipresent God is not in the Bible..they didn't even have a word for god..or eternity or holy spirit..not I suspect until the men in frocks in Rome got hold of it to give some weight to the new religion to replace the old pagan religion..name change but everything else the same....Constantine chucked out a lot that didn't fit his agenda and that theme has carried on and now it is discovered their CNN tricks have put 1000 years on. We are only in the middle ages
And I don't think anything has changed..we are still killing millions for the elite few.. yahweh would love today's world
They did not kill on his command... Again... PEOPLE ARE BROKEN. people do bad things. Please cite in the bible where it says they were commanded.
I read the old testament and the new. Everything else is not truth.
Elohim = God/Gods. have you forgotten that this time period there is no concept of monotheism. It's a new concept. Elohim is applied to God and so that is the translation. If you have no word to describe a new concept, you use words you know.
Again there is a difference between the real, true God, and the many gods that were worshiped which were false gods.
There is nothing anywhere in the old testament that says Elohim are aliens from another planet which seems to be what you are blaspheming
There is no god in the Bible to blaspheme against.
I know a lot about Jacob..do you?
He deceived his blind father and got the blessings meant for his brother...all the animals all the wealth.. everything. ..whole inheritence..then he was deceived by his father in law and got drunk and had sex with eldest daughter put in his bed and had to wait seven years for his intended.
He didn't fall outwith his father in law they came to an agreement..two elohim were involved..elohim had two camps to honour this agreement.
Then Jacob thinking the heat would be off him returned home but hears Easau is after him so he settles in Schochem.
And one of his sons has sex with the chief of schochems daughter. He wants to marry her. The father agrees. He says there is lots of land they can all live together in peace Jacobs sons say ok but yahweh insists that every man be circumcised so all the men agree to it....
On the third day while they were so sore Jacobs sons attacked and killed every man woman and child as yahweh ordered. Yahweh had the abdomen fat of the women and babies as a burnt offering ..he had COMMANDMENTS on how to do offerings
THen elohim says go to Bethel and reside build an altar to elohim who shows himself to you...do he went to cuz el benel
After that he was called Israel..
think he fitted in with the vicious elohim quite well
You had to worship the elohim whose land you were in..pay tithes ..etc
Did I know him better than you?
THen elohim says go to Bethel and reside build an altar to elohim who shows himself to you...do he went to cuz el benel
After that he was called Israel..
think he fitted in with the vicious elohim quite well
You had to worship the elohim whose land you were in..pay tithes ..etc
Yes you agree they killed them men women and children. At yahweh s command all were killed. So are you saying this yahweh is the god in the Bible you worship..pray to?
A lot isn't in king James Bible..it's in other bibles..creation stories. It's also in the jewish Bible the Torah the Zohar etc. All 163 commandments of yahweh are there.
Elohim is the name for the elohim..it cannot be transcribed. When you read the word God or lord or arch angel or judges or mallaci or kings they are the elohim.
When you moved to a different land and a different elohim you had to raise an altar..a bit like flying the flag I am presuming..there who you pay your silver sheKel's to etc
I don't have to do anything!
There is no god in the Bible..only the recounting of the tribe of Jacobs tale of what happened when the elohim invaded the earth. They called themselves gods lords etc but everyone knew they were the elohim and were terrified of them..to meet one could be instant death and they would rape your mother your daughter your bride.
Now if you want to pretend they are god that's up to you but a transcendental omnipotent omnipresent God is not in the Bible..they didn't even have a word for god..or eternity or holy spirit..not I suspect until the men in frocks in Rome got hold of it to give some weight to the new religion to replace the old pagan religion..name change but everything else the same....Constantine chucked out a lot that didn't fit his agenda and that theme has carried on and now it is discovered their CNN tricks have put 1000 years on. We are only in the middle ages
And I don't think anything has changed..we are still killing millions for the elite few.. yahweh would love today's world