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Todays Q drop doesnt read like Q
posted 3 years ago by Copperselectrons 3 years ago by Copperselectrons +265 / -3

If youve been reading Q since Oct 2017, you know what I mean

Edit to clarify--what I mean is there is a Q way of speaking and this lacks it.

Ok eg this stood out immediately: Use your logic

Tell me why this is not Q like

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– sleepydude 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Q never talked about COVID or the vaccine, despite these apparently being vital parts of the play. Q never really discussed biolabs in Ukraine being first hot war.

Q absolutely did allude to action in Ukraine.

He laid out a roadmap several times, with space for events yet to be announced:

https://qalerts.app/?n=4620

u/#q4620

https://qalerts.app/?n=4688

u/#q4688

https://qalerts.app/?n=4822

u/#q4822

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– ARandomOgre 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Q alluded to the country of Ukraine. Which was in the news a lot when he was posting, considering that Trump's first impeachment was (in part) due to the alleged attempt to leverage Ukraine against Biden.

I'm not seeing anything here providing a concrete prediction that Ukraine was housing bioweapon labs on behalf of the US, or that Putin would be responsible in dismantling them on behalf of the White Hats. Ukraine's mere presence in the news perfectly explains why Q was talking about this at the time.

Which is kind of the point I've been making about Q. He is "just asking questions" about current events, and the implied answers are only that the narrative may not be true. Nothing else, no other predictions after those first early ones.

Any time Ukraine is in the news for the next ten years, it could conceivably be in relation to what Q was discussing here.

Any event in the past, present, or further that takes place on the 70% of this planet covered in liquid might conceivably fit the prediction of "watch the water." Why on Earth would Q waste his time saying this if it was actually supposed to prepare people for something?

What exactly is this information good for if it gives me not a single specific I can use to know what I should be looking for? I’ve been staring at the water running from my sink for two years now and still haven’t seen anything interesting.

Theories that have no provable predictive value aren't really theories, they're mythologies. I didn't see a single Q researcher here predict that Russia would be attacking biolabs in Ukraine on behalf of the Cabal before Russia’s invasion, despite these posts existing.

So can you tell me the next major international event that's going to happen, according to Q? Can you tell me which country will make headlines in October of this year, with all the Q posts you have at your disposal?

The difference between a scientific theory and a faith-based one is predictive capability and falsifiability (which are related). Anyone can make up a narrative AFTER the event has already occurred; this is how literally all mythology works.

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– sleepydude 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Which is kind of the point I've been making about Q. He is "just asking questions" about current events, and the implied answers are only that the narrative may not be true. Nothing else, no other predictions.

That's all Q ever was. A bunch of questions which got people thinking actively about what was going on in THEIR government.

So can you tell me the next major international event that's going to happen, according to Q? Can you tell me which country will make headlines in October of this year, with all the Q posts you have at your disposal?

No. I can't. I can only speculate.

Q trained us by questioning us selectively on particular topics that are uncommon so that we are more familiar with them when they DO come up in the social ecosphere.

Q posts aren't predictions into the far future. That's a mistake many, including me, continually make. These last 2 years has shown us Q posts have a half life of about a month. Past that, it's just regurgitation of past events like an echo coming back to the source. It's not reliable.

But that doesn't mean past posts are useless. They inform us of what happened on that day -- as a time capsule and an example of how to interpret the themes of today to form expectations of where those themes may end up.

Q's posts are training exercises. That's all they ever have been. Means by which to train the general public on the methods used in sensitive Military Intelligence and Analysis.

Q posts are a crash course in Military data analysis and awareness.

https://qalerts.app/?n=4700

https://2009-2017.state.gov/documents/organization/119629.pdf

All part of a COIN intel operation to provide an outlet for domestic civilians an opportunity to resist insurgent political groups like ANTIFA and BLM, without devolving into violent Civil Conflict.

The population-centric approach shifts the focus of COIN from defeating the insurgent organization to maintaining or recovering the support of the population. While direct military action against the insurgent organization will definitely be required, it is not the main effort; this approach assumes that the center of gravity is the government’s relationship with and support among the population. It can be summarized as “first protect and support the population, and all else will follow.”

The information function comprises intelligence (required to gain understanding), and influence (to promote the affected government’s cause). It is essential that the influence campaign is in tune with the strategic narrative, resonates with the relevant audiences, is based on genuine resolve by the affected government and that physical actions match. What makes COIN different from other stabilization and humanitarian tasks is that both elements of the information function will be conducted in stark competition with the insurgents’ own information functions.

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– ARandomOgre 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

That's all Q ever was. A bunch of questions which got people thinking actively about what was going on in THEIR government.

Maybe… but do you know what typically happens when I ask questions here?

I provide an answer. I am told that I am brainwashed. I provide another answer. I’m told to turn off the television. I provide another answer. I am told I am believing the lies from the Deep State. I provide another answer. I am told that I am simply an idiot too stupid to salvage.

I provide the answer that supports the notion that Trump is a genius and fighting Satanists and Q is a mastermind and that everyone who hates Trump is a pedophilic cannibal?

I hear, “FINALLY you’re starting to think like a free thinker!”

Being dismissed as “a brainwashed sheep” for literally any argument that makes Q look potentially wrong or fraudulent isn’t any more open-minded than simply telling me what to believe.

And I’m not accusing you of it directly, but I don’t think you can deny it that simply “making people think about their government” is clearly not what the Q community believes the endgame to be.

Q trained us by questioning us selectively on particular topics that are uncommon so that we are more familiar with them when they DO come up in the social ecosphere.

Q posts are a crash course in Military data analysis and awareness.

I’m not really convinced of that yet.

I’d challenge you to go into the wackiest, most ridiculous conspiracy community you can find. Really, look for the outliers among outliers. Hang out there for a bit.

If they take themselves seriously, they will also be congratulating themselves as intelligent critical thinkers in a world full of sheepish idiots. They will also be citing Legitimate Documents that seem to parallel with their definition of what constitutes critical thinking.

All part of a COIN intel operation to provide an outlet for domestic civilians an opportunity to resist insurgent political groups like ANTIFA and BLM, without devolving into violent Civil Conflict.

I’m also not convinced of that. Suggesting that Q is a counter-intelligence agent and that “disinformation is necessary” means that Q can be wrong, and supporters will write it off as disinformation.

“Huh. It appears I’ve been tricked. THAT’LL show the Cabal.”

It’s exactly the sort of fraudulent claim I would imply if I wanted to ensure that I would get the benefit of the doubt any time reality disagreed with me. Because obviously, if I’m wrong, it because I’m fighting a war and need the enemy to “expend ammo.”

No part of Sun Tzu suggests hiding the identity of your real commanders, allowing false commanders to give orders in order to “expose them”, letting the enemy conquer your country just to “awaken” your populace, and causing such a sense of confusion in your own army that even your soldiers don’t know who they’re supposed to be listening to for valid information.

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– sleepydude 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I’m not really convinced of that yet.

There is absolutely nothing I can do to convince you of anything.

My stance in recent days is to only provide you an explanation for WHY so many people resonate with the message Q was trying to send and the methods he used to get a desired result.

Summarily, if Q WERE part of a crowd-sourced attempt at instilling patriotic sentiment and hope among a wildly demoralized populous, Q would operate no different than he had.

If someone were trying to hide something under their shirt, and kept their back to your and their arms in a cradle, it does not mean he is hiding something from you under their shirt -- but if he were hiding something, he would be acting no differently.

That is an conclusion built on assumptions, sure, but in the case of Q, where the Government is completely compromised head to toe except by a fringe minority of specialists trying to avoid getting singled out by the corruption, then would they even be able to do anything other than what Q did?

It's not the Occam's Razor argument. Instead, it's a process of deduction. If Q were a psyop, then the numerous proofs that connect to Trump and his reluctance to denounce Q are simply baffling.

Consider it this way: If you were in a government position right now, how might you work to overthrow the corruption without getting killed?

No part of Sun Tzu suggests hiding the identity of the commanders, allowing false commanders to give orders in order to “expose them”, letting the enemy conquer your country just to “awaken” your populace, and causing such a sense of confusion in your own army that even your soldiers don’t know who they’re supposed to be listening to for valid information.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/tao/aow/aow21.htm

  1. All warfare is based on deception. 1

  2. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.

  3. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him. 2

  4. If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. 3

  5. If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. 4

  6. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. 1

If his forces are united, separate them. 2

  1. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.

  2. These military devices, leading to victory, must not be divulged beforehand. 3

  3. Now the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought. 4


  1. Sun Tzŭ said: Whoever is first in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy, will be fresh for the fight; whoever is second in the field and has to hasten to battle, will arrive exhausted. 1

  2. Therefore the clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him. 2

  3. By holding out advantages to him, he can cause the enemy to approach of his own accord; or, by inflicting damage, he can make it impossible for the enemy to draw near. 1

  4. If the enemy is taking his ease, he can harass him; 2 if well supplied with food, he can starve him out; 3 if quietly encamped, he can force him to move. 4

  5. Appear at points which the enemy must hasten to defend; march swiftly to places where you are not expected. 5


All of those teachings and more only work when you feign weakness.

Sun Tzu never expounded deeply on what to do when the enemy is entirely from within.

That's what a COIN operation is.

If there is ANY attempt to stop the Domestic Insurgency, THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE than to use a domestic COIN operation as the defense.

WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE!? If not Q, then what, in your mind, would fit the bill?

There is no alternative to fighting an insurgency this size and this old than to use a COIN blueprint. So, what would your COIN operation look like? How would you possibly avoid suspicion when the enemy surrounds you on all sides from the safety of the shadows?

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