The Nazis in particular kept several sets of books.

An empty claim that has never been proven. Germans were the most precise people on Earth, and yet there is no evidence of anything that would validate the jew claims of gas chambers. No materials, no nothing that could even make it plausible.

So, they created yet another fantasy that there must have been "two sets of books." But no evidence to back it up.

Real numbers are always hidden by those that have something to hide.

I agree. The jews certainly do want to hide the fact that there were never 6,000,000 deaths, much less murders.

Maybe that's why they keep pushing the number lower, but don't really make a big news splash about it.

I am not denying that numbers could be inflated - like we have never seen that happen before.

Right. But when there were claims of "6,000,000 jews in danger!" in newspaper articles going back to the 1890's, and when those stories were first that the jews were in danger in Russia (not Germany) at EXACTLY the same time that jews were plotting to overthrow Russia, and then later the same claim for Eastern Europe (not Germany), and then they took over Poland ... and then there were ZERO contemporaneous claims about Germany until many years AFTER ... then it's not so much a mere inflation of number. It's more like a precise number that had been pushed via propganda MULTIPLE TIMES before, and then also after. Almost like they were trying to fulfill a "prophecy" or something.

When you see that type of stuff, you have to consider that it might be propaganda, and not fact. Then, when years later they lower the number at Auschwitz from 4 million jews killed here to 1.5 million jews killed here, but keep the 6 million in total number, you have to consider it might be propaganda.

Then, when you realize that independent sources, such as World Almanac, at the time showed no decrease in jewish population, worldwide, before and after (much less 6 million), then you have to consider it might be propaganda.

Then, when you realize there were only about 200,000 jews in Germany at the time the war started, because Hitler had a deal with jewish leadership to allow jews to move to Palestine, which was their wet dream from the beginning, and there were not even 6 million jews available to kill in all of Germany-controlled territory, even if they wanted to, you have to consider it might be propaganda.

Inflated numbers is one thing. Made-up fantasy is quite another.

But. we must be careful when invalidating the pain and suffering of those that were directly affected,

Being put into prison camps would be a horror. No doubt. The same horror suffered by Japanese-American on US soil.

But that does not justify some of them lying about their experiences many years later.

That many people cannot all be lying -

Many people can be lying, and many people can be "remembering" things that fit the narrative many decades later.

You would think that if the massive murders really took place, there would be thousands of people who would come forward after the war was over and talk about it.

The people in the camps who SAW the happenings. The people in the nearby villages (who could see right into the camps through the fences) who would say something.

But it was only a very few people MANY YEARS LATER who told the big stories.

The International Red Cross visted the camps many times, looking for the very things that were later claimed. You would think that someone in the camps would have whispered a thing or two. Nope. Nada.

The 6,000,000 story wasn't even a thing until many years later.

It has been proven that there were no gas chambers to murder people. There WERE crematoriums because people DID die of disease, old age, and maybe even some sort of abuse by Germans. And the "gas chambers" were used to kill lice, not people.

The Germans who lived to talk about it from their perspective, were adamant that they were under strict orders to NOT harm the prisoners. There is a story of one German commendant being hanged for abusing prisoners.

Maybe this is the REAL reason for summary executions and kangaroo courts immediately, rather than real trials with real evidence and witness testimony. REAL trials were never allowed. Nuremberg rules were according to Soviet law, not American or British law. And one of the rules was that no evidence needed to be provided in order to arrive at a conviction. There is only ONE reason why that would be a rule.

I say let the evidence from BOTH SIDES be shown to the world, and maybe we will know for sure what really happened. If I am wrong, I would want to know that. But the evidence that I have seen -- and I have seen evidence presented by both sides -- is heavily in favor of the Holohoax.

one of them is my father and he had access to classified post war info and was on the ground in Germany after the war.

You can say it all you want, but if it cannot be verified, then it is not evidence to me.

Eisenhower even "recreated" a "gas chamber" at Dachau. He did this so US congressmen could tour the prison camps and see how it was. But this re-creation of a gas chamber was false. There are records of this in the US archives.

The reason he did this is that the Americans and British controlled Germany and the prison camps on German soil, while the Soviets controlled Poland and the prison camps on Polish soil.

Even the jews have never claimed that there were any gas chambers on the German side. They claim ALL gas chambers were in the Polish side camps.

So, Ike had to "recreate" a "gas chamber" since there wasn't one at Dachau or anywhere else where he was in control. (Your father would have been on the German side, not the Polish side. So, he could not have seen any gas chambers, even according to the jews' own version of the story.)

After the congressmen toured the camp, it was disassembled. We all want to "Like Ike," but he may not have been as he appeared, either.

There was propaganda on all sides during wartime, and maybe even more after.

Who knows? Maybe your father, unbeknownst to himself, was one of many people used to push a narrative by being given disinfo. We have all been fooled by disinfo. Maybe he was, too, and sincerely believed he knew what was what.

I don't put much value in a personal experience if (a) there is no evidence presented to back it up, and (b) there is much evidence that shows it is very unlikely or could not have been true.

Were there crematoriums? Yes. To dispose of the deceased. Does this mean they were purposely executed? No. One might jump to that conclusion, but that conclusion is just a guess. If that guess is made with a heavy dose of emotional trauma, then it becomes ever more suspect, and requires even more evidence to validate.

I have been fooled. Maybe your father was, too. Does not make him a liar or a bad person, just somewho who may have been a victim of propaganda, to which I say ... join the club.