Look, my personal goal is to understand the Q stuff as well as possible, and to be able to translate that to the outside world. Because even if I have not yet been convinced by it, and don't intend to convince others, I do think it's important to get as good a picture as I can of your beliefs.
Because you guys exist in numbers that aren't insignificant, and I don't think a failure of the Plan to manifest means you guys just turn to mist.
My job as a mod on QHC there has involved mostly getting rid of ad hom nonsense. Sometimes, I've even removed misinformation about this site and its users.
My job isn't to lead people to some objective truth. Moderators aren't leaders. I have no objective over there to spread any sort of philosophy.
And, in general, I haven't removed information unless it's unrelated to Q, or if it's something that will get the subreddit banned for misinformation, like any other community that promotes Q theories.
I don't necessarily agree with Reddit's stance on this, but I also have absolutely zero power to do anything about it.
But while I don't necessarily agree that Reddit is the best place to get a view into Q stuff, it's also a WAY bigger audience than anything GAW has.
You can choose to have the Reddit mods staffed exclusively with people who aren't even willing to talk to you and think of you as unsalvable idiots, if you'd prefer, but I can't imagine how that would benefit either of us.
You want a Great Awakening, and I like being able to talk directly with the people I'm trying to understand. Because I like to cut out the potential for propaganda when I am investigating Q supporters, and talking to you here is the best way to do that.
It's as if everyone here assumes that every semi-intelligent nonbeliever on the planet is simply going to stand aside and do weeks of research while the Q Team arrests and executes our politicians and business leaders.
I know that people here have continuously assumed I am here for nefarious reasons on the basis that I have not capitulated to Q Theories after reading the evidence. As if no intelligent person can possibly require a better standard of proof than you did to accept Q's Truth.
But I will continue to insist, to the best of my knowledge, that I am a pretty good harbinger for the readiness of the Great Awakening, because exactly none of the questions I ask or points I make are going to be ones that are not made by regular, non-corrupt, non-Cabal, mostly honest people with actual authority and resources to stand against the Q Team.
I can tell you right now that if some nameless military agent started trying to arrest Democratic politicians and execute them, and when questioned, told me to read Devolution and I would "get it", I would try to stop that person, because I'm not going to let someone get kidnapped and executed on the possible delusion of someone.
So I'm hoping there HAS to be better evidence coming, for the sake of me and the many people like me, because otherwise, Q is going to have to gun down a lot of well-meaning people who aren't willing to give Q and Trump the benefit of the doubt and do weeks of research in order to justify Trump's apparently legal return. That research is going to need to be done, revealed, exposed widely, and packaged in a way that will convinced a cop who is unwilling to lower their gun from Q's operators long enough to read Patel Patriot.
Why does Q still have to rely on disinformation and secrecy and plausible deniability if the evidence already out there “should be clear to everyone”?
And as long as Q is still playing optics, still apparently hiding his probable role in carrying out justice, and as long as plausible deniability must exist, then Q is actively making it harder to prove the Plan, on purpose.
That is completely unaffected by whether or not Reddit permits Q posts. That has to do with the actions Q is purposefully taking to hide his identity and the proof of his actions (such as McCain’s arrest and execution, for instance).
So why do you blame people for being skeptical of Q’s claims when Q is still taking so many steps to hide the Plan’s existence and results from the world?
So, like I said, regardless of the reasoning, Q has a lot of work to do to ensure that he isn’t fighting an army of good Samaritans who are unwilling to read the legal justifications of PatelPatriot while our politicians are executed by some Secret Authority that the vast majority of people have not verified and whose identities are not even known.
I can promise on whatever you want that I am not being paid to be here. I do not have an interest in dismantling the Q movement. I have no interest in convincing anyone here of anything.
And I put fifty times the work into understanding this movement than anyone I’ve met. I am convincable and willing to do the work. I am exactly the kind of person who, if convinced, can do the work bridging with the normies who can’t or won’t do the work.
I am doing the work that Q people asks normies to do. I am just not coming to the same conclusions in my research.
Zeitreise constantly suggests that I am too stupid to get it, and that I am some sort of outlier whose position on the Q World is completely unrepresentative of the real world.
Do you think that’s true? Do you think that most cops, lawyers, military officers, and other authority figures are going to put more work into understanding your justifications for the Plan than I do?
Do you think any of the millions of people in a position to stop Q from carrying out some or all of the Plan will listen as patiently as I have?
I have prayed to the Lord for the patience to deal with people like you so please forgive me if I attack you. I don't mean to demean or insult.
I have noticed and appreciated that, truly. The problem is definitely that you and I both have the stamina to argue for weeks without sleep, and you perhaps just have a little more than I do. I do always read and absorb the things you write, even if I don't agree or have the time or energy to follow you down that particular rabbit hole.
Your problem is you have repeatedly obsessed over Q instead of the subject material and as a result it positions you in sort of this alien place that no anon is willing to go.
I get that you don't see Q as an important part, and rather look at Q's words.
But I demonstrated last time why that can't be good enough for me. Because Q's personal credibility DOES MATTER to you.
Because when Q tells you to look at something, you look until you find the evidence that you believe he wanted you to find.
And if Q's identity actually doesn't matter, then you would be suggesting that if I proved, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Q was Ron Watkins, that wouldn't shake your belief in the Plan whatsoever. Because Ron Watkin's words would still be as credible as any military operative. Only the words matter, after all.
Is that something you're willing to stand behind?
If Q's identity or credibility didn't matter, then you would have no reason to, say, "look at the therapists." I asked you last time, when Q told you guys to research that, the end result was that you, Zeitreise, believe that many, if not most mass shootings are the result of objectively Satanic or Communist therapists purposefully manipulating their patients via MKUltra brainwashing techniques on behalf of the Cabal.
When I asked for even one story of a Satanist therapist provably turning their patient into a mass murderer, any primary source document for this, I didn't get one. I got stories in which you wanted me to assume the therapists were Satanist, and assume the therapists betrayed their client, and assumed that (relatively common) mistakes were done on purpose, with purpose.
Where is the template of the Satanic therapist that is creating mass murderers? Who, by name, has done this, and proven that this concept has ever occurred?
As I've said, I am always impressed by you and Q World's ability to identify potential vulnerabilities in any system. If there is a place where a Satanist could potentially cause a mass shooting event, I can rely on you to find it.
But can I rely on you to follow up from Q's prediction, and produce the actual hard evidence I would need to prove that a therapist was Satanist? To prove that a Satanist therapist deliberately set a mass shooter on the world? To prove that even a single therapist was answering to a Cabal?
Can I rely on you as an objective prosecutor, or only as a defense attorney?
Look, my personal goal is to understand the Q stuff as well as possible, and to be able to translate that to the outside world. Because even if I have not yet been convinced by it, and don't intend to convince others, I do think it's important to get as good a picture as I can of your beliefs.
Because you guys exist in numbers that aren't insignificant, and I don't think a failure of the Plan to manifest means you guys just turn to mist.
My job as a mod on QHC there has involved mostly getting rid of ad hom nonsense. Sometimes, I've even removed misinformation about this site and its users.
My job isn't to lead people to some objective truth. Moderators aren't leaders. I have no objective over there to spread any sort of philosophy.
And, in general, I haven't removed information unless it's unrelated to Q, or if it's something that will get the subreddit banned for misinformation, like any other community that promotes Q theories.
I don't necessarily agree with Reddit's stance on this, but I also have absolutely zero power to do anything about it.
But while I don't necessarily agree that Reddit is the best place to get a view into Q stuff, it's also a WAY bigger audience than anything GAW has.
You can choose to have the Reddit mods staffed exclusively with people who aren't even willing to talk to you and think of you as unsalvable idiots, if you'd prefer, but I can't imagine how that would benefit either of us.
You want a Great Awakening, and I like being able to talk directly with the people I'm trying to understand. Because I like to cut out the potential for propaganda when I am investigating Q supporters, and talking to you here is the best way to do that.
It's as if everyone here assumes that every semi-intelligent nonbeliever on the planet is simply going to stand aside and do weeks of research while the Q Team arrests and executes our politicians and business leaders.
I know that people here have continuously assumed I am here for nefarious reasons on the basis that I have not capitulated to Q Theories after reading the evidence. As if no intelligent person can possibly require a better standard of proof than you did to accept Q's Truth.
But I will continue to insist, to the best of my knowledge, that I am a pretty good harbinger for the readiness of the Great Awakening, because exactly none of the questions I ask or points I make are going to be ones that are not made by regular, non-corrupt, non-Cabal, mostly honest people with actual authority and resources to stand against the Q Team.
I can tell you right now that if some nameless military agent started trying to arrest Democratic politicians and execute them, and when questioned, told me to read Devolution and I would "get it", I would try to stop that person, because I'm not going to let someone get kidnapped and executed on the possible delusion of someone.
So I'm hoping there HAS to be better evidence coming, for the sake of me and the many people like me, because otherwise, Q is going to have to gun down a lot of well-meaning people who aren't willing to give Q and Trump the benefit of the doubt and do weeks of research in order to justify Trump's apparently legal return. That research is going to need to be done, revealed, exposed widely, and packaged in a way that will convinced a cop who is unwilling to lower their gun from Q's operators long enough to read Patel Patriot.
The evidence of the great awakening is difficult to deny at this point, anon. It should be clear to everyone we are in an information war.
Perhaps it should be clear to everyone.
So why isn’t it?
Why does Q still have to rely on disinformation and secrecy and plausible deniability if the evidence already out there “should be clear to everyone”?
And as long as Q is still playing optics, still apparently hiding his probable role in carrying out justice, and as long as plausible deniability must exist, then Q is actively making it harder to prove the Plan, on purpose.
That is completely unaffected by whether or not Reddit permits Q posts. That has to do with the actions Q is purposefully taking to hide his identity and the proof of his actions (such as McCain’s arrest and execution, for instance).
So why do you blame people for being skeptical of Q’s claims when Q is still taking so many steps to hide the Plan’s existence and results from the world?
Why isn't it? Because of the traits your Qult show: following propaganda instead of truth.
It's quite simple when you think about it. But can get lost by writing paragraphs and paragraphs of mental gymnastics.
So, like I said, regardless of the reasoning, Q has a lot of work to do to ensure that he isn’t fighting an army of good Samaritans who are unwilling to read the legal justifications of PatelPatriot while our politicians are executed by some Secret Authority that the vast majority of people have not verified and whose identities are not even known.
I can promise on whatever you want that I am not being paid to be here. I do not have an interest in dismantling the Q movement. I have no interest in convincing anyone here of anything.
And I put fifty times the work into understanding this movement than anyone I’ve met. I am convincable and willing to do the work. I am exactly the kind of person who, if convinced, can do the work bridging with the normies who can’t or won’t do the work.
I am doing the work that Q people asks normies to do. I am just not coming to the same conclusions in my research.
Zeitreise constantly suggests that I am too stupid to get it, and that I am some sort of outlier whose position on the Q World is completely unrepresentative of the real world.
Do you think that’s true? Do you think that most cops, lawyers, military officers, and other authority figures are going to put more work into understanding your justifications for the Plan than I do?
Do you think any of the millions of people in a position to stop Q from carrying out some or all of the Plan will listen as patiently as I have?
i didn't disagree with anything you said here, anon.
I have noticed and appreciated that, truly. The problem is definitely that you and I both have the stamina to argue for weeks without sleep, and you perhaps just have a little more than I do. I do always read and absorb the things you write, even if I don't agree or have the time or energy to follow you down that particular rabbit hole.
I get that you don't see Q as an important part, and rather look at Q's words.
But I demonstrated last time why that can't be good enough for me. Because Q's personal credibility DOES MATTER to you.
Because when Q tells you to look at something, you look until you find the evidence that you believe he wanted you to find.
And if Q's identity actually doesn't matter, then you would be suggesting that if I proved, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Q was Ron Watkins, that wouldn't shake your belief in the Plan whatsoever. Because Ron Watkin's words would still be as credible as any military operative. Only the words matter, after all.
Is that something you're willing to stand behind?
If Q's identity or credibility didn't matter, then you would have no reason to, say, "look at the therapists." I asked you last time, when Q told you guys to research that, the end result was that you, Zeitreise, believe that many, if not most mass shootings are the result of objectively Satanic or Communist therapists purposefully manipulating their patients via MKUltra brainwashing techniques on behalf of the Cabal.
When I asked for even one story of a Satanist therapist provably turning their patient into a mass murderer, any primary source document for this, I didn't get one. I got stories in which you wanted me to assume the therapists were Satanist, and assume the therapists betrayed their client, and assumed that (relatively common) mistakes were done on purpose, with purpose.
Where is the template of the Satanic therapist that is creating mass murderers? Who, by name, has done this, and proven that this concept has ever occurred?
As I've said, I am always impressed by you and Q World's ability to identify potential vulnerabilities in any system. If there is a place where a Satanist could potentially cause a mass shooting event, I can rely on you to find it.
But can I rely on you to follow up from Q's prediction, and produce the actual hard evidence I would need to prove that a therapist was Satanist? To prove that a Satanist therapist deliberately set a mass shooter on the world? To prove that even a single therapist was answering to a Cabal?
Can I rely on you as an objective prosecutor, or only as a defense attorney?