I was just about to say this. These days, so many pedes are posting stuff about the netherland that is NOT current and is NOT related to the current situation.
Anons should be MORE discerning that the general public, not just as discerning as the general public.
But that does not detract from the facts on hand and doesn't make the Story False....
pedes are posting stuff about the netherland that is NOT current and is NOT related to the current situation.
Absolute BULLSHIT....Like I said a 10-second search will show you exactly what's happening in the Netherlands with lots of images(Very Similar)..Yes, this may be an Old photo from 2019 but that does not make the Story/situation False...nor does it detract from the facts on hand...
"I was just about to say this"
ACKshwally, this is the third time you have made the same damn comment on the same thread. We get it. This image is from a different protest in the same country and basically looks the same as what's going on now. You've proved you are a super sleuth. I'm sure purkiss, one of the best post-ers on GAW, will continue to refine, thanks to your persistence.
The above was the first comment I posted. Then, I posted under Purkiss' own comment, to bring it to his attention.
You're probably right, 3 comments might be a bit overkill. But I don't know if each person reads each and every comment in a thread. Normally the OP will, I suppose.
My primary reason for responding to 3 separate comments is to address the person making the specific comment, not just the entire thread. If it's a general thread comment, then I comment directly under the post, in the first-tier of comments. How do you choose where to comment, and why?
My general stance: I dislike it when I see false or misrepresented information being posted on GAW or other forums/channels (sites whose central purpose is to advance the front in the Information War), particularly so when it's done through consistent sloppy practice, as opposed to a random mistake, which anyone who posts has done. But should I perhaps just forget about mal-posting, and ignore it when wrong, mistaken, misleading or even fake information comes in?
As to Purkiss being one of the best post-ers on GAW, well, I'd say he's one of the most prolific, but that's not necessarily the best, IMO. Pretty much most of Purkiss' content I see elsewhere in areas I browse, but I acknowledge that he brings a lot of good info to the board.
And, ACKshwally, I have engaged with Purkiss directly a number of times; to point out when he fails to give any credit to the source, when members of the board come away thinking HE is the source and give him all sorts of praise (which he habitually fails to correct) when the content is something he's simply posted from elsewhere, uncredited. He used to do this a LOT.
Our exchanges have alway indicated - stated in Purkiss' words himself - that he simply forgets and/or is simply in too much of a rush to give proper source, (which I personally consider a relevant and important detail, but maybe that's just me?) and I've certainly accepted that his motives are genuine (whereas some might not, when it happens again and again and again). Moreover, happily, I have noticed improvements in his practice. Whether that 'refinement' is due to my input or not, well, that's up for grabs.
I have always engaged with him in good faith, and I thought he had a LITTLE respect for my contributions. I'm sorry to see his sarcastic and defensive comment above, when all I did was point out to him that the photo is of a different, significantly older incident.
Along with his protestations of his sincere motives (which I don't really doubt), he is usually receptive when someone points out sloppy or poor practice. Seems like his particularly reactive in this case.
Me? I just write paragraphs and paragraphs and bore people to death.
Read all your paragraphs, wasn't even bored. The thoughtful reply was above and beyond, in the best way.
I personally don't bend over backwards to credit, say, a meme, but I do when I readily know it's providence. I don't, however, accept accolades for work I haven't done. It's probably natural for people to compliment purkiss when he drops a kickass meme, because as I understand it, half the time he literally made the meme. I have never taken the time to actually create one myself even though I've had many ideas I thought were winners, and so I am extremely grateful to him and others like him for their part in the meme wars.
To your point about quality control regarding sites like GAW, whose job it is to "advance the front in the Information War," I think you're absolutely right that we need to set an example by being a standard bearer of truth. If something isnt true, Then IT IS FALSE. I think purkiss maybe got a bit defense about something he probably felt was pedantry, and didn't enjoy being called out when it could be seen as correct in spirit, and hair splitting. I would call it no harm, no foul.
You asked how, where, and why I choose to comment. I do, like you, often notice corrections to something in the post written in the comments. Then inevitably, lower in the comments, I see another person commenting who obviously didnt get the correction, and is still moving forward with the wrong data, meaning they believe something that isn't true. This is not good for an information war, to the extent that correlates with the size/scope/relevance of the error (which i agree with purkiss that in this case was minimal). For me, it just feels too wierd to go through a comment section, checking to make sure everyone got the correction. But if that's your steez, I don't think you're doing a bad/wrong thing.
I had a great day. Burnt the shit out of my neck on Day one of a 5 day chimney demolition on a beachside condo. I hope your week is great.
Nice meeting you.
I never denied that protests and issues aren't taking place in the Netherlands. FYI, half of my extended family are from and live in the Netherlands, so it draws a particular interest from me.
But there are a few things here:
ONE. the protest in this photo is a very large one. The photo gives the (incorrect) impression that what is happening right now is what is represented in the photo.
I am yet to see photos or images that show this level of scale in the current events. That's not to say it's not so, but how would we know if the images being posted are NOT current?
Earlier in the year, we went through the FAKE news media posting old and fake photos of 'dire events in Ukraine', deliberately misrepresenting the real situation. There's a reason we should aspire to accuracy. It's important.
Yes, this may be an Old photo from 2019 but that does not make the Story/situation False...nor does it detract from the facts on hand...
TWO, you did NOT post a story. Did you post any facts here? You posted a picture with a caption. If you'd posted: "Dutch Farmers are Refusing to Back Down (their fighting spirit illustrated by this photo of a protest from 2019)" who would have any reason to think that your caption is inaccurate?
I know, I know. You don't care if it's slightly inaccurate or misleading, as long as you "get the information out there". Each to his own, I guess.
Note: I wrote: pedes are posting stuff about the netherland that is NOT current and is NOT related to the current situation
You wrote
Absolute BULLSHIT
But is it? Someone posted a photo of an iron-clad tractor claiming "Dutch Farmers are putting armor on their Tractors!" when the photo was from something completely unrelated to the Netherlands.
That's all I'm saying. Not that the situation in the Netherland isn't serious, habbening or highly noteworthy. I'm saying, some people are posting random stuff without even checking it's veracity. That's not something I think is appropriate or helpful to the board. But maybe that's just me.
I was just about to say this. These days, so many pedes are posting stuff about the netherland that is NOT current and is NOT related to the current situation.
Anons should be MORE discerning that the general public, not just as discerning as the general public.
Imagine being on GAW and getting downvoted for suggesting accuracy in posting and discernment .....
Imagine being you...🤡
Keep up the good work pal, just tighten up a tad is my only request.
That's all I've ever asked Purkiss. But he seems to be in a bad mood today.
🤡
But that does not detract from the facts on hand and doesn't make the Story False....
Absolute BULLSHIT....Like I said a 10-second search will show you exactly what's happening in the Netherlands with lots of images(Very Similar)..Yes, this may be an Old photo from 2019 but that does not make the Story/situation False...nor does it detract from the facts on hand...
"I was just about to say this" ACKshwally, this is the third time you have made the same damn comment on the same thread. We get it. This image is from a different protest in the same country and basically looks the same as what's going on now. You've proved you are a super sleuth. I'm sure purkiss, one of the best post-ers on GAW, will continue to refine, thanks to your persistence.
Thanks Gawker.
The above was the first comment I posted. Then, I posted under Purkiss' own comment, to bring it to his attention.
You're probably right, 3 comments might be a bit overkill. But I don't know if each person reads each and every comment in a thread. Normally the OP will, I suppose.
My primary reason for responding to 3 separate comments is to address the person making the specific comment, not just the entire thread. If it's a general thread comment, then I comment directly under the post, in the first-tier of comments. How do you choose where to comment, and why?
My general stance: I dislike it when I see false or misrepresented information being posted on GAW or other forums/channels (sites whose central purpose is to advance the front in the Information War), particularly so when it's done through consistent sloppy practice, as opposed to a random mistake, which anyone who posts has done. But should I perhaps just forget about mal-posting, and ignore it when wrong, mistaken, misleading or even fake information comes in?
As to Purkiss being one of the best post-ers on GAW, well, I'd say he's one of the most prolific, but that's not necessarily the best, IMO. Pretty much most of Purkiss' content I see elsewhere in areas I browse, but I acknowledge that he brings a lot of good info to the board.
And, ACKshwally, I have engaged with Purkiss directly a number of times; to point out when he fails to give any credit to the source, when members of the board come away thinking HE is the source and give him all sorts of praise (which he habitually fails to correct) when the content is something he's simply posted from elsewhere, uncredited. He used to do this a LOT.
Our exchanges have alway indicated - stated in Purkiss' words himself - that he simply forgets and/or is simply in too much of a rush to give proper source, (which I personally consider a relevant and important detail, but maybe that's just me?) and I've certainly accepted that his motives are genuine (whereas some might not, when it happens again and again and again). Moreover, happily, I have noticed improvements in his practice. Whether that 'refinement' is due to my input or not, well, that's up for grabs.
I have always engaged with him in good faith, and I thought he had a LITTLE respect for my contributions. I'm sorry to see his sarcastic and defensive comment above, when all I did was point out to him that the photo is of a different, significantly older incident.
Along with his protestations of his sincere motives (which I don't really doubt), he is usually receptive when someone points out sloppy or poor practice. Seems like his particularly reactive in this case.
Me? I just write paragraphs and paragraphs and bore people to death.
Have a nice day.
Read all your paragraphs, wasn't even bored. The thoughtful reply was above and beyond, in the best way. I personally don't bend over backwards to credit, say, a meme, but I do when I readily know it's providence. I don't, however, accept accolades for work I haven't done. It's probably natural for people to compliment purkiss when he drops a kickass meme, because as I understand it, half the time he literally made the meme. I have never taken the time to actually create one myself even though I've had many ideas I thought were winners, and so I am extremely grateful to him and others like him for their part in the meme wars. To your point about quality control regarding sites like GAW, whose job it is to "advance the front in the Information War," I think you're absolutely right that we need to set an example by being a standard bearer of truth. If something isnt true, Then IT IS FALSE. I think purkiss maybe got a bit defense about something he probably felt was pedantry, and didn't enjoy being called out when it could be seen as correct in spirit, and hair splitting. I would call it no harm, no foul. You asked how, where, and why I choose to comment. I do, like you, often notice corrections to something in the post written in the comments. Then inevitably, lower in the comments, I see another person commenting who obviously didnt get the correction, and is still moving forward with the wrong data, meaning they believe something that isn't true. This is not good for an information war, to the extent that correlates with the size/scope/relevance of the error (which i agree with purkiss that in this case was minimal). For me, it just feels too wierd to go through a comment section, checking to make sure everyone got the correction. But if that's your steez, I don't think you're doing a bad/wrong thing. I had a great day. Burnt the shit out of my neck on Day one of a 5 day chimney demolition on a beachside condo. I hope your week is great. Nice meeting you.
Some posters look for quantity over quality.....
Lol...Thank you very much...😉👍👊
I never denied that protests and issues aren't taking place in the Netherlands. FYI, half of my extended family are from and live in the Netherlands, so it draws a particular interest from me.
But there are a few things here:
ONE. the protest in this photo is a very large one. The photo gives the (incorrect) impression that what is happening right now is what is represented in the photo.
I am yet to see photos or images that show this level of scale in the current events. That's not to say it's not so, but how would we know if the images being posted are NOT current?
Earlier in the year, we went through the FAKE news media posting old and fake photos of 'dire events in Ukraine', deliberately misrepresenting the real situation. There's a reason we should aspire to accuracy. It's important.
TWO, you did NOT post a story. Did you post any facts here? You posted a picture with a caption. If you'd posted: "Dutch Farmers are Refusing to Back Down (their fighting spirit illustrated by this photo of a protest from 2019)" who would have any reason to think that your caption is inaccurate?
I know, I know. You don't care if it's slightly inaccurate or misleading, as long as you "get the information out there". Each to his own, I guess.
Note: I wrote: pedes are posting stuff about the netherland that is NOT current and is NOT related to the current situation
You wrote
But is it? Someone posted a photo of an iron-clad tractor claiming "Dutch Farmers are putting armor on their Tractors!" when the photo was from something completely unrelated to the Netherlands.
That's all I'm saying. Not that the situation in the Netherland isn't serious, habbening or highly noteworthy. I'm saying, some people are posting random stuff without even checking it's veracity. That's not something I think is appropriate or helpful to the board. But maybe that's just me.