The land and oceans we know of are not curved in any way. All scientific experiments prove it so and no scientific experiments can be done to contradict said proof.
But the land and oceans we know not of are also in the "earth realm" and not on the the flat surface we are aware of.
And the entire earth "realm" including the "waters above and waters below" encompass what we suspect is in the shape of an oblate spheroid when it is all considered together - not just the continents and oceans we have been taught are the only things there are in this "earth realm".
So the question to Q was too simplistic. A better question would have been; "Is the land/ocean we are presently aware of shaped like a sphere/globe/ball dangling in the void of space"?
But I suspect Q would have chosen not to answer that one. It seems that there are too many that are just not quite ready to accept the fact that a "lie this big" can be told. I know I was in this camp 5 years ago. But the evidence that's come along the past 5 years makes it impossible to believe in the helio-centric model any longer. The evidence against the globe is simply beyond overwhelming today.
I agree fren. 5 years ago my life was forever changed as I tried to wrap my head around the globe science. Their models are beyond non sensical.
For a while now David Weiss from DITRH has been offering 3 Bitcoin to anyone that can show definitive proof of the globe model we have been taught our entire lives. Should be easy money right? Still no takers though...
You don’t understand ancient textual transmission. The NT we hold in our hands today is 99.9% accurate to the original autographs. Hands down THE most authenticated book of ancient antiquity. Over 5.686 Greek manuscripts alone with some dating within 15 yrs of the events recorded. There is no other 1st century history that comes close. Plato. Aristotle. Homers Iliad. Tacitus. Caesar’s wars. None hold a candle to the NT documents when it comes to establishing authenticity. The NT is THE most preserved writing from all of ancient antiquity.
Just an FYI, if it isn't the original Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, it is a translation. There are lots of translations. My dad had a study Bible that had 8 translations in it. 4 per page, so 8 versions of the same verses anywhere you opened the book. It was a thick book.
For all my years of study, KJV is generally considered one of the most distorted versions there is. Originally commissioned by....King James. He heavily influenced, or tried to, the translators to have them emphasize obedience to those in power, paying taxes, respecting rulers and generally being content with your roll in life. This is not to say it was blatant changes to scripture, but it was mildly influenced with certain word changes.
Again, this is why you should read multiple translations if you don't intend to learn greek/hebrew/Latin.
Also, keep in mind, if you don't put what is said into historical context, you are not getting the proper understanding of the scriptures. Words, phrases, meanings changed over time, obviously, and the Holy Bible was written by the Jews of real Isreal, and from their point of view. Many inferences are missed if you don't take that into account.
Yeah so to lie to us and convince us the earth a globe the deceivers gave a description of the world that science contradicts? Makes zero sense. If theybwanted to lie it would say the earth is a globe and support sciences bullshit. Keep trying.
I get it. Did you watch some of the links? You can clearly see rockets hitting something and bouncing off something in space. So what did they hit? Can you explain?
Years ago, in another lifetime, I saw the old space station and shuttle cross over the sky at night. I watch it with high power binoculars. One of the coolest things I have even seen. What caught me was it was upside down going across the sky, west to east. I don’t have a picture but I saw it clear as day. So was that project blue beam or the real deal? I know what I saw.
And I haven’t even started talking about red sprites, green, blue streaks, and ELVES and rainbows.
Red sprites were reported by pilots years ago and yet all the meteorologists (experts) told them they were full of shit. Yet here we are with pictures and videos of it….
I thought this site was called The Great Awakening, not The Great Banning.
Do you believe an evil group of people have controlled the world for hundreds or thousands of years? Do you believe they have lied to us about most things, that they use propaganda to control the masses?
Maybe have a look at a picture of the NASA logo, then look at a picture of a snake's tongue, then finally, look at Q post # 191.
IMO, unfortunately, they can be a good smokescreen for the work done on GAW.
Lamestream sees these posts and we all become moronic Flat earthers. The site stays up and has less attacks because we're all crazies, not worth the effort.
That is where I realized they lie about it. I can prove chemistry in a lab. I can't fly above the earth high enough to observe but I am can observe on terrain firma to prove it including solid math. I'm convinced it's not a globe. What it is I'm still looking to understand but it all points to spheroidal shape.
If we believe that a satanic cabal have had control for thousands of years of just about everything, then...
I think the most interesting thing I remember were the water tests. I.e. water always finds it's own level.
Apparently there were experiments done in long lakes / rivers, that were straight for 7 miles or more. And they had one guy at one end with a telescope, slightly above the water level, then at the other end, a marker just above water the same height.
What should happen is that the guy with the telescope shouldn't be able to see the marker, because of the curvature of the earth, but he could, suggesting that earth was either flat, or at least not as curved as we believe it to be.
I think some newer tests were done using laser light, which showed similar results.
The Phoenicians dominated the ancient sea trade. When the Minoan thalassocracy broke up, perhaps as a result of the catastrophic volcanic eruption of Santorini Island, the Phoenicians rapidly replaced it. The Phoenician managed to get an absolute monopoly on essential products. First, they dominated the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, but later after the settlement of Carthage, the Western Mediterranean became increasingly dominated by the Punic [Poen(us)] Carthaginians. The great dye-works of the Canaanite cities of Tyre and Sidon supplied the entire Mediterranean basin with the much sought after dye. first from Tyre, Sidon and later Carthage.
Phoenician maritime supremacy in the Mediterranean Sea was exercised by their control of the Straits of Gibraltar.
It was forbidden for all ships except Punic ships to pass through the Straits on the pain of death. It was well known that the Phoenicians had a monopoly on tin in the Mediterranean, but increasingly competition was coming from the western ports like Tartessus and especially by the Greeks. Tartessus was a thriving port located on the Atlantic Ocean side of Gibraltar. Its origin is shrouded in mystery, but may have been originally settled by the Etruscans. It is believed that Tartessus had long traded with the northern islands of Britain for tin. Tin mining was a large enterprise in early Britain. In fact, the British Isles was known in ancient times as the "Cassiterides" ("tin islands"). Along with the Phoenicians, the Tartessusans traded with the central and eastern regions of the Mediterranean. The Phoenician-established commerce links for tin trade between Britain and the Eastern Mediterranean world was also quite substantial. Joseph, the uncle of Jesus was probably involved in tin trade between the British Isles and the Near East. It is known that the Cretan artifacts circa 1700 BC have been found at Falmouth in Cornwall, as well as pieces of Trojan jewelry. These may have reached England via Spain through Tartessus.
In 535 B.C., the battle of Alalia marked the era where the Phoenicians gained the upper hand in all the Mediterranean Sea. A treaty was renewed and the western Mediterranean Sea was divided in spheres of influence. The Etruscans were to regain control of Corsica and the island of Sardinia was awarded to the Phoenicians. Unwittingly to the Etruscans, the treaty was greatly advantageous to the Phoenicians. The Etruscan influence was now limited to the Tyrrhenian Sea and contained the Phocaeans in the region of Etruscan influence. The Canaanite-Phoenicians knew the strength of these Greeks and feared them. The Greeks previously defeated a Phoenician attempt to destroy the settlement of Massalia (modern Marseilles) in 600 B.C. The swift Ionian warships out-maneuvered and defeated the Canaanite-Phoenicians. The Etruscans never suspected their isolation. The Alalia treaty also isolated Tartessus and was a constant irritant to the Canaanite-Phoenicians.
As I mentioned earlier, there was a certain vegetable dye found on the Atlantic islands (perhaps the Madeira Islands) which, used in concoction with the Canaanite-Phoenician’s own regional dyes, enabled them to give purple fabrics a magnificent red color famed throughout the ancient world. This secret needed to be kept so no one else could compete with the Phoenician’s monopoly on the purple dye. The Canaanite-Phoenician’s tin trade by sea was another obtainable monopoly if the competition was destroyed. Therefore, the Phoenicians decided to eradicate the one city that could gave them trouble; Tartessus. Soon, Carthage laid seize to Tartessus and destroyed it. Its soldiery lusted in a frenzy of murder and arson until there was nothing left of it but debris and rubble. So complete was the destruction of Tartessus that it has never been found to this day. The Old Testament is sated with references to that old city and refers to it as Tarshish. In II Chronicles 9:21, it states:
"For the kings ships went to Tarshish with the servants of Huram: every three years once came the ships of Tarshish bringing gold, and silver, ivory, apes and peacocks."
Huram may have been the world-renowned King Hiram of Phoenician city of Tyre. However, scholars think that the name was the title of all Tyrian kings.
The Canaanite-Phoenicians had succeeded in protecting their monopoly on purple dye and strategically eliminated their competition, which gave them in addition all of the maritime trade coming from such places as the British Isles and Germany. With their blockade in place, and the elimination of Tartessus, a great propaganda campaign ensued. Stories derived from Phoenicians of great sea monsters, demons, eerie darkness, immense beds of seaweed, mudflats from which no ship could free itself and terrifying death awaited any seafarer who ventured beyond the Straits of Gibraltar was propagandized over and over again. This deceitful subterfuge injected fear in all the Mediterranean populace for many years to come. While Phoenician ships ventured farther into the Atlantic finding new rewards and became the first to circumnavigated Africa, the false stories grew. So effective were the lies that two thousand years later, these “old tales” were still prominent among Portuguese sailors until the 14th century when they finally made their way to the southern African coastline and traced the ancient route already known by the Phoenicians. Henry, the Navigator, who discovered the sea route to India, had difficulty all his life convincing sea captains to sail the peculiar sea.
Do you see how the "flat earth" myth was originally perpetrated? Does it remind you of some of the extraordinary LIES told to us today? Just a thought.
If you read the description of Enoch...described many times in genesis as the one perfect man....you might wonder why he was not in the Bible? He walked with the elohim.....he was one of them as his supposed father said ....a hybrid..
Mauro biglino official channel youtube English subtitles ..Mauro was a translator for Vatican publishers until he uncovered too much.
We know there were giants here on earth..enough bones dug up all over the world...I don't go for this inter dimensional stuff.....the Smithsonian museum used to go and claim all the skeletons that were being photographed and in newspapers...you can still look them up.
The land and oceans we know of are not curved in any way. All scientific experiments prove it so and no scientific experiments can be done to contradict said proof.
But the land and oceans we know not of are also in the "earth realm" and not on the the flat surface we are aware of.
And the entire earth "realm" including the "waters above and waters below" encompass what we suspect is in the shape of an oblate spheroid when it is all considered together - not just the continents and oceans we have been taught are the only things there are in this "earth realm".
So the question to Q was too simplistic. A better question would have been; "Is the land/ocean we are presently aware of shaped like a sphere/globe/ball dangling in the void of space"?
But I suspect Q would have chosen not to answer that one. It seems that there are too many that are just not quite ready to accept the fact that a "lie this big" can be told. I know I was in this camp 5 years ago. But the evidence that's come along the past 5 years makes it impossible to believe in the helio-centric model any longer. The evidence against the globe is simply beyond overwhelming today.
I agree fren. 5 years ago my life was forever changed as I tried to wrap my head around the globe science. Their models are beyond non sensical.
For a while now David Weiss from DITRH has been offering 3 Bitcoin to anyone that can show definitive proof of the globe model we have been taught our entire lives. Should be easy money right? Still no takers though...
Virtual reality?
The Bible is full of mistranslations.. you need to get a old Hebrew Bible and some dictionaries...the Bible is not what it seems...
You don’t understand ancient textual transmission. The NT we hold in our hands today is 99.9% accurate to the original autographs. Hands down THE most authenticated book of ancient antiquity. Over 5.686 Greek manuscripts alone with some dating within 15 yrs of the events recorded. There is no other 1st century history that comes close. Plato. Aristotle. Homers Iliad. Tacitus. Caesar’s wars. None hold a candle to the NT documents when it comes to establishing authenticity. The NT is THE most preserved writing from all of ancient antiquity.
Next question.
sure pal.
Just an FYI, if it isn't the original Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, it is a translation. There are lots of translations. My dad had a study Bible that had 8 translations in it. 4 per page, so 8 versions of the same verses anywhere you opened the book. It was a thick book.
For all my years of study, KJV is generally considered one of the most distorted versions there is. Originally commissioned by....King James. He heavily influenced, or tried to, the translators to have them emphasize obedience to those in power, paying taxes, respecting rulers and generally being content with your roll in life. This is not to say it was blatant changes to scripture, but it was mildly influenced with certain word changes.
Again, this is why you should read multiple translations if you don't intend to learn greek/hebrew/Latin.
Also, keep in mind, if you don't put what is said into historical context, you are not getting the proper understanding of the scriptures. Words, phrases, meanings changed over time, obviously, and the Holy Bible was written by the Jews of real Isreal, and from their point of view. Many inferences are missed if you don't take that into account.
Yeah so to lie to us and convince us the earth a globe the deceivers gave a description of the world that science contradicts? Makes zero sense. If theybwanted to lie it would say the earth is a globe and support sciences bullshit. Keep trying.
Don't blame mistranslations because ive check all the areas of God Word that were thought that and they are accurately done.
You might find this useful....
Olam....in the Bible as eternity...not so...it's an indefinite period of time.
Elohim..not god.
.not lord.or eternal replace with yahweh
God most high is elyon...the leader of elohim
angel angels replace with malach or malachim
Spirit of God replace with Ruach of the elohim
Glory of God replace with kavod of th elohim or kavod of yahweh.
Whenever almighty is found replace with el shadday All these are aliens ..words denote their job title
This small glossary taken from th naked Bible...by Mauro biglino official channel youtube English subtitles
Translator for the Vatican publishers until h found out too much....
Posting flat earth shit should be grounds for a ban. You're either an idiot making us look bad or pretending to be to make us look bad.
"HeMiSpHeRe MeAnS hAlF a DoMe By DeFiNiTiOn"
Oh my God, shut the fuck up.
I get it. Did you watch some of the links? You can clearly see rockets hitting something and bouncing off something in space. So what did they hit? Can you explain?
Years ago, in another lifetime, I saw the old space station and shuttle cross over the sky at night. I watch it with high power binoculars. One of the coolest things I have even seen. What caught me was it was upside down going across the sky, west to east. I don’t have a picture but I saw it clear as day. So was that project blue beam or the real deal? I know what I saw.
And I haven’t even started talking about red sprites, green, blue streaks, and ELVES and rainbows.
Red sprites were reported by pilots years ago and yet all the meteorologists (experts) told them they were full of shit. Yet here we are with pictures and videos of it….
https://science.nasa.gov/red-sprite-lightning-over-kununurra
https://www.sott.net/article/386463-Photographer-captures-yet-another-photo-of-rare-red-sprites-in-skies-above-Oklahoma
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper-atmospheric_lightning
https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulMSmithPhoto?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1120006297909383170%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fphoto-red-jellyfish-sprite-lightning-during-texas-storm-2020-8
https://spaceweathergallery.com/index.php?title=sprite&title2=jet
I thought this site was called The Great Awakening, not The Great Banning.
Do you believe an evil group of people have controlled the world for hundreds or thousands of years? Do you believe they have lied to us about most things, that they use propaganda to control the masses?
Maybe have a look at a picture of the NASA logo, then look at a picture of a snake's tongue, then finally, look at Q post # 191.
Thanks for playing.
IMO, unfortunately, they can be a good smokescreen for the work done on GAW.
Lamestream sees these posts and we all become moronic Flat earthers. The site stays up and has less attacks because we're all crazies, not worth the effort.
This place is for people who think. The only guy making us look bad is you.
Original NASA boss, Nazi rocket scientist and Walt Disney's close friend Wernher von Braun's tomb stone states one thing: Psalms 19.1.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
I just want to know the truth as well, I thought the Musk trolling along with Trump saying he has rockets to nowhere is teasing it
People never look up. Trust the Bible.
I so.
Did they stop teaching physics and chemistry in your high school or were you just out smoking weed ditching class?
That is where I realized they lie about it. I can prove chemistry in a lab. I can't fly above the earth high enough to observe but I am can observe on terrain firma to prove it including solid math. I'm convinced it's not a globe. What it is I'm still looking to understand but it all points to spheroidal shape.
Ok Einstein. Hope you enjoy a good grade of cannabis.
I did watch some Eric Dubay stuff in the past.
If we believe that a satanic cabal have had control for thousands of years of just about everything, then...
I think the most interesting thing I remember were the water tests. I.e. water always finds it's own level.
Apparently there were experiments done in long lakes / rivers, that were straight for 7 miles or more. And they had one guy at one end with a telescope, slightly above the water level, then at the other end, a marker just above water the same height.
What should happen is that the guy with the telescope shouldn't be able to see the marker, because of the curvature of the earth, but he could, suggesting that earth was either flat, or at least not as curved as we believe it to be.
I think some newer tests were done using laser light, which showed similar results.
It's interesting, that's for sure.
Consider this:
The Phoenicians dominated the ancient sea trade. When the Minoan thalassocracy broke up, perhaps as a result of the catastrophic volcanic eruption of Santorini Island, the Phoenicians rapidly replaced it. The Phoenician managed to get an absolute monopoly on essential products. First, they dominated the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, but later after the settlement of Carthage, the Western Mediterranean became increasingly dominated by the Punic [Poen(us)] Carthaginians. The great dye-works of the Canaanite cities of Tyre and Sidon supplied the entire Mediterranean basin with the much sought after dye. first from Tyre, Sidon and later Carthage.
Phoenician maritime supremacy in the Mediterranean Sea was exercised by their control of the Straits of Gibraltar.
It was forbidden for all ships except Punic ships to pass through the Straits on the pain of death. It was well known that the Phoenicians had a monopoly on tin in the Mediterranean, but increasingly competition was coming from the western ports like Tartessus and especially by the Greeks. Tartessus was a thriving port located on the Atlantic Ocean side of Gibraltar. Its origin is shrouded in mystery, but may have been originally settled by the Etruscans. It is believed that Tartessus had long traded with the northern islands of Britain for tin. Tin mining was a large enterprise in early Britain. In fact, the British Isles was known in ancient times as the "Cassiterides" ("tin islands"). Along with the Phoenicians, the Tartessusans traded with the central and eastern regions of the Mediterranean. The Phoenician-established commerce links for tin trade between Britain and the Eastern Mediterranean world was also quite substantial. Joseph, the uncle of Jesus was probably involved in tin trade between the British Isles and the Near East. It is known that the Cretan artifacts circa 1700 BC have been found at Falmouth in Cornwall, as well as pieces of Trojan jewelry. These may have reached England via Spain through Tartessus.
In 535 B.C., the battle of Alalia marked the era where the Phoenicians gained the upper hand in all the Mediterranean Sea. A treaty was renewed and the western Mediterranean Sea was divided in spheres of influence. The Etruscans were to regain control of Corsica and the island of Sardinia was awarded to the Phoenicians. Unwittingly to the Etruscans, the treaty was greatly advantageous to the Phoenicians. The Etruscan influence was now limited to the Tyrrhenian Sea and contained the Phocaeans in the region of Etruscan influence. The Canaanite-Phoenicians knew the strength of these Greeks and feared them. The Greeks previously defeated a Phoenician attempt to destroy the settlement of Massalia (modern Marseilles) in 600 B.C. The swift Ionian warships out-maneuvered and defeated the Canaanite-Phoenicians. The Etruscans never suspected their isolation. The Alalia treaty also isolated Tartessus and was a constant irritant to the Canaanite-Phoenicians.
As I mentioned earlier, there was a certain vegetable dye found on the Atlantic islands (perhaps the Madeira Islands) which, used in concoction with the Canaanite-Phoenician’s own regional dyes, enabled them to give purple fabrics a magnificent red color famed throughout the ancient world. This secret needed to be kept so no one else could compete with the Phoenician’s monopoly on the purple dye. The Canaanite-Phoenician’s tin trade by sea was another obtainable monopoly if the competition was destroyed. Therefore, the Phoenicians decided to eradicate the one city that could gave them trouble; Tartessus. Soon, Carthage laid seize to Tartessus and destroyed it. Its soldiery lusted in a frenzy of murder and arson until there was nothing left of it but debris and rubble. So complete was the destruction of Tartessus that it has never been found to this day. The Old Testament is sated with references to that old city and refers to it as Tarshish. In II Chronicles 9:21, it states:
Huram may have been the world-renowned King Hiram of Phoenician city of Tyre. However, scholars think that the name was the title of all Tyrian kings.
The Canaanite-Phoenicians had succeeded in protecting their monopoly on purple dye and strategically eliminated their competition, which gave them in addition all of the maritime trade coming from such places as the British Isles and Germany. With their blockade in place, and the elimination of Tartessus, a great propaganda campaign ensued. Stories derived from Phoenicians of great sea monsters, demons, eerie darkness, immense beds of seaweed, mudflats from which no ship could free itself and terrifying death awaited any seafarer who ventured beyond the Straits of Gibraltar was propagandized over and over again. This deceitful subterfuge injected fear in all the Mediterranean populace for many years to come. While Phoenician ships ventured farther into the Atlantic finding new rewards and became the first to circumnavigated Africa, the false stories grew. So effective were the lies that two thousand years later, these “old tales” were still prominent among Portuguese sailors until the 14th century when they finally made their way to the southern African coastline and traced the ancient route already known by the Phoenicians. Henry, the Navigator, who discovered the sea route to India, had difficulty all his life convincing sea captains to sail the peculiar sea.
Do you see how the "flat earth" myth was originally perpetrated? Does it remind you of some of the extraordinary LIES told to us today? Just a thought.
Start with god did flood the earth....what god? ...is flat earth a distraction from the fact that aliens came here 5000 years ago???
Other way around
If you read the description of Enoch...described many times in genesis as the one perfect man....you might wonder why he was not in the Bible? He walked with the elohim.....he was one of them as his supposed father said ....a hybrid..
Mauro biglino official channel youtube English subtitles ..Mauro was a translator for Vatican publishers until he uncovered too much.
We know there were giants here on earth..enough bones dug up all over the world...I don't go for this inter dimensional stuff.....the Smithsonian museum used to go and claim all the skeletons that were being photographed and in newspapers...you can still look them up.
Who owns the Smithsonian? Getty? Very cabal