I'm an engineer, if I get my facts wrong, then when something goes sideways; people WILL die. Facts matter, I don't care about feelings.
When the fact sheet on a material, is lacking, that material is scrapped. End of story.
When the vaccine shipped with a blank ingredients listing, with blank data, blank test data - any lower level medical professional should have immediately realized something was VERY, VERY wrong. Would you give your baby medicine from a blank labelled medicine jar?
Now, these same medical professionals, who had daily access to information that we were denied, are pleading ignorance? All that does is make me seriously question their integrity, and their competence.
I refused the vaccine, I refused to take the test; I challenged my superiors to fire me, because I refused to comply. I placed my livelihood on the line; because I could tell that something wasn't right - and my knowledge of medicine is pretty limited. But, I know how to do research.
I get your point, but it's not 100% about facts vs feelings. Of course feelings cannot be the primary driver of decision making, despite the nature of political campaigning and commercial marketing.
The additional point in this thread, I think, is to acknowledge the basic human dignity -- even of those who seem completely blind to facts, accepting and doing what they're told without pushback, even when it is harmful to oneself or society at large. Not because of fuzzy feelings, its leaving the lines of communication open to the chance for fellow humans to come around and come back to their senses on these matters. Which takes a little pride swallowing on everyone's part, because ultimately we're truly all in this together.
If one is in the right when it comes to the hard facts, and allowing a spirit of superiority to accompany that disposition, others will sense that even before they would come around to see the hard facts. And the feedback will more likely be negative and destructive rather than constructive.
If I recall correctly, these same people demanded YOU get an experimental “vaccine”, that you be denied medical care, the ability to work, go out in public, board an airplane, go to a restaurant or concert, or do practically anything without “showing your papers”
They happily sacrificed their freedoms; then threatened you with financial ruin, humiliation, and “special treatment” until you complied. To this day, unvaccinated need to test before going to work, despite the fact that the vaccine neither prevents one from getting or transmitting the disease
Understood, I had to fight and wrestle with the system and finagle exemption paperwork, and re-negotiated agreements etc to keep my 100% remote out-of-state IT career job because of the mandated jab. But I came to expect nothing less for a coastal elite-liberal institution. I had to check my emotions and all that, but realizing they were a poster boy example of institutionalized mass formation psychosis, I shrug it off and become like water. That's just me at this stage I guess.
In the meantime, as the yawning gap between reality and their narratives continue, I'm not personally convinced that some sort of mass "payback" is the solution to make sure this never happens again. At least any sort of payback that concerns a nobody like me. My two hopes are:
Political candidates getting elected that will come up with and push for new legislation to curb government overreach in the name of public health crisis / "federal emergency" or whatever.
Being a sales person for reality, at least to everyday folks who make up the mass of society and, in many many more cases than we would give credit for, truly believe they speak and act in good faith while they are operating under the spell of mass formation psychosis. Even doing what is so obviously harmful and damaging to the rest of us. That's the nature of psychological hypnosis. Being an effective sales person means understanding how these folks think about the world around them, as muddy as that thinking is, and being open to address their views and concerns in non combative ways. Winning them over if possible, one by one.
Of course there are objectively legally definable traitors and criminals that have helped orchestrate this 2 year+ shit show, but those are not the ones I'm likely to interact with on social media or face to face.
I'm an engineer, if I get my facts wrong, then when something goes sideways; people WILL die. Facts matter, I don't care about feelings.
When the fact sheet on a material, is lacking, that material is scrapped. End of story.
When the vaccine shipped with a blank ingredients listing, with blank data, blank test data - any lower level medical professional should have immediately realized something was VERY, VERY wrong. Would you give your baby medicine from a blank labelled medicine jar?
Now, these same medical professionals, who had daily access to information that we were denied, are pleading ignorance? All that does is make me seriously question their integrity, and their competence.
I refused the vaccine, I refused to take the test; I challenged my superiors to fire me, because I refused to comply. I placed my livelihood on the line; because I could tell that something wasn't right - and my knowledge of medicine is pretty limited. But, I know how to do research.
I get your point, but it's not 100% about facts vs feelings. Of course feelings cannot be the primary driver of decision making, despite the nature of political campaigning and commercial marketing.
The additional point in this thread, I think, is to acknowledge the basic human dignity -- even of those who seem completely blind to facts, accepting and doing what they're told without pushback, even when it is harmful to oneself or society at large. Not because of fuzzy feelings, its leaving the lines of communication open to the chance for fellow humans to come around and come back to their senses on these matters. Which takes a little pride swallowing on everyone's part, because ultimately we're truly all in this together.
If one is in the right when it comes to the hard facts, and allowing a spirit of superiority to accompany that disposition, others will sense that even before they would come around to see the hard facts. And the feedback will more likely be negative and destructive rather than constructive.
If I recall correctly, these same people demanded YOU get an experimental “vaccine”, that you be denied medical care, the ability to work, go out in public, board an airplane, go to a restaurant or concert, or do practically anything without “showing your papers”
They happily sacrificed their freedoms; then threatened you with financial ruin, humiliation, and “special treatment” until you complied. To this day, unvaccinated need to test before going to work, despite the fact that the vaccine neither prevents one from getting or transmitting the disease
I remember traitors
Understood, I had to fight and wrestle with the system and finagle exemption paperwork, and re-negotiated agreements etc to keep my 100% remote out-of-state IT career job because of the mandated jab. But I came to expect nothing less for a coastal elite-liberal institution. I had to check my emotions and all that, but realizing they were a poster boy example of institutionalized mass formation psychosis, I shrug it off and become like water. That's just me at this stage I guess.
In the meantime, as the yawning gap between reality and their narratives continue, I'm not personally convinced that some sort of mass "payback" is the solution to make sure this never happens again. At least any sort of payback that concerns a nobody like me. My two hopes are:
Political candidates getting elected that will come up with and push for new legislation to curb government overreach in the name of public health crisis / "federal emergency" or whatever.
Being a sales person for reality, at least to everyday folks who make up the mass of society and, in many many more cases than we would give credit for, truly believe they speak and act in good faith while they are operating under the spell of mass formation psychosis. Even doing what is so obviously harmful and damaging to the rest of us. That's the nature of psychological hypnosis. Being an effective sales person means understanding how these folks think about the world around them, as muddy as that thinking is, and being open to address their views and concerns in non combative ways. Winning them over if possible, one by one.
Of course there are objectively legally definable traitors and criminals that have helped orchestrate this 2 year+ shit show, but those are not the ones I'm likely to interact with on social media or face to face.
Just my .02
AMEN!
Accountability, what a truly underrated thing these days…
I have had lots of babies and that's a firm NO.