I'm a Latinist. Despite my education, I have learned the instincts of my father (Vietnam Vet) are often correct--and way ahead of me. Perhaps what you are instinctually sensing is the status of citizen as slave to a state that may not be functioning as a democratic republic, as established. I suspect you're onto something. There is info out there suggesting this government is not what we think it is.
Historical note: According to Tacitus's Annales, it seems many Romans thought they could re-establish the actual Republic after the domination of Augustus. They were wrong.
What did the Roman Republic call those with voting rights and what did they call slaves?
I don't know personally but I'm sure there is a difference between slave and citizen.
So I'm uncertain where VetforTrump gets his definition of citizen = slave. Unless he is implying that the definition has shifted.
civis=citizen, but their voting was not democratic. (civil, civics, etc.)
servus=slave (servant, servitude, etc.)
If you were a citizen, during imperial rule, you could appeal to the emperor and be given death via beheading (merciful death) (St. Paul.)
A noncitizen was executed via other means, like crucifixion, a slave's death (St. Peter.)
Thanks for squaring me away sir good post.
I'm a Latinist. Despite my education, I have learned the instincts of my father (Vietnam Vet) are often correct--and way ahead of me. Perhaps what you are instinctually sensing is the status of citizen as slave to a state that may not be functioning as a democratic republic, as established. I suspect you're onto something. There is info out there suggesting this government is not what we think it is.
Historical note: According to Tacitus's Annales, it seems many Romans thought they could re-establish the actual Republic after the domination of Augustus. They were wrong.
Thank you for your past and continued service.
Thanks! So we can say that Trump using citizen does not mean he is calling people slaves.
The difference between Republic Rome and Imperial Rome is wild.
Yes, the Republic to Empire is a vast, complicated history.