After seeing the Scotty Mar video yesterday + a couple threads on here about the golden ticket/curl guy Tik Tok video, I decided to do a deep dive last night and dig through photos of everyone killed in Extortion 17 to see if I could find anything new. I kind of went into it trying to prove it was Aaron, but the more photos I saw of him, the less convinced I became. I know that goes against the popular opinion, but I felt it was important to look into the less obvious guys who were not shown in the tik tok clip.
Most of them were easy to cross off the list because there was obviously no resemblance whatsoever. The only 3 I would even consider an option at first glance are: Jon T. Tumilson, Aaron Vaughn, and Daniel L Zerbe. Jon Tumilson is easily dismissed, as he has sleeve tattoos, which are not visible in the reflections of curl guys glasses in this photo ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Bw1DfI1 ) or the photo linked below (red shirt). In the photo of curl guy(red shirt), I think we can guestimate an average height based on the woman sitting next to him. I would assume she is somewhere between 5' and 5'4" max. Curl guy is slightly slumped but doesn't seem to have much on her. Aaron we know was 5'10", so I would expect him to sit a bit taller. There was an interview I can't locate at the moment with a woman named Jan Martin who dated Daniel at one point. She mentioned that even though he wasn't a big guy he still excelled at football.
With all of that said + my overlay video, I now believe that the guy with the curl on his forehead is TSgt. Daniel L. Zerbe. There are not many photos available of Daniel, but out of everyone in this photo ( https://special-ops.org/wp-content/uploads/US-soldiers-that-died-in-Extortion-17-incident.jpg )
he just stood out to me when compared to the photo on this site
( https://arkvalleyvoice.com/steamplant-first-friday-event-featured-two-local-artists/ ) which has him(curl guy) captioned as Michael Hoffman. Once I overlayed an image of Daniel over the "Michael Hoffman" photo, I couldn't un-see what I saw. I have watched it so many times now while editing that now I am questioning my own eyes, so I want some second and third opinions.
I will point out that in photos of Daniel, his face does look rather smooth in comparison to photos of the curl guy but without knowing how old he was in the photo or what he has been through since, it is hard to say what he should look like now. He does have a pretty large scar located on the inside elbow area of his right arm ( Red shirt Photo) Daniel was 28 when he was killed in Afgan. so he would be 39/40 today. I am having a hard time guessing curl guys age. He does have a decent amount of grey hair but that is not the best indicator.
Also does anyone recognize the Logo on his hat? I can't find anything that resembles it. (raven maybe?)
I don't believe that video is curl man. It's too recent and the ages don't jive, imo. Similar looking guy, but not the guy in the picture kneeling next to the dog or in the cap and red shirt.
Thank you. I wanted to see it again and yeah, I still say it's not that Daniel Z guy. Curl guy shows a close up of himself in his combat fatigues, kneeling down next to the dog. And then he shows another pic of him in a hat with a red t-shirt. To me, that doesn't look anything like that Dan. Z guy.
No problem, yea I'm still on the fence. The one thing we need to question is, is this the original video, or is this video one that someone added all that stuff on the left to, like a proof video. Or did curl guy put out a video pointing out his own user IDs and such? I say that because when he shows this photo - https://files.catbox.moe/9uhm27.jpg , the guy on the left is Jon Tumilson who was also killed, but Jon also had sleeve tats on both arms.
Good question and point. To me, the guy in the fatigues and the red shirt do look like a younger version of curl man. I have no idea what is going on, but he did allude to his memory being wiped. Makes me think that, like so many things, we can't believe what we've been told. Apparently he was reported dead, but he looks very much alive to me. So many plot twists in this movie, I'm lost.
Yea I have no idea either. Unfortunately for him to really come out and say what happened, Obama and Hillary need to be in prison first. Someone linked me a clip to the original clip - https://files.catbox.moe/uvyoft.mp4 . It does have a much different vibe without the Music and clips but his words do sound calculated and sincere.
After seeing the Scotty Mar video yesterday + a couple threads on here about the golden ticket/curl guy Tik Tok video, I decided to do a deep dive last night and dig through photos of everyone killed in Extortion 17 to see if I could find anything new. I kind of went into it trying to prove it was Aaron, but the more photos I saw of him, the less convinced I became. I know that goes against the popular opinion, but I felt it was important to look into the less obvious guys who were not shown in the tik tok clip.
Most of them were easy to cross off the list because there was obviously no resemblance whatsoever. The only 3 I would even consider an option at first glance are: Jon T. Tumilson, Aaron Vaughn, and Daniel L Zerbe. Jon Tumilson is easily dismissed, as he has sleeve tattoos, which are not visible in the reflections of curl guys glasses in this photo ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Bw1DfI1 ) or the photo linked below (red shirt). In the photo of curl guy(red shirt), I think we can guestimate an average height based on the woman sitting next to him. I would assume she is somewhere between 5' and 5'4" max. Curl guy is slightly slumped but doesn't seem to have much on her. Aaron we know was 5'10", so I would expect him to sit a bit taller. There was an interview I can't locate at the moment with a woman named Jan Martin who dated Daniel at one point. She mentioned that even though he wasn't a big guy he still excelled at football.
With all of that said + my overlay video, I now believe that the guy with the curl on his forehead is TSgt. Daniel L. Zerbe. There are not many photos available of Daniel, but out of everyone in this photo ( https://special-ops.org/wp-content/uploads/US-soldiers-that-died-in-Extortion-17-incident.jpg ) he just stood out to me when compared to the photo on this site ( https://arkvalleyvoice.com/steamplant-first-friday-event-featured-two-local-artists/ ) which has him(curl guy) captioned as Michael Hoffman. Once I overlayed an image of Daniel over the "Michael Hoffman" photo, I couldn't un-see what I saw. I have watched it so many times now while editing that now I am questioning my own eyes, so I want some second and third opinions.
I will point out that in photos of Daniel, his face does look rather smooth in comparison to photos of the curl guy but without knowing how old he was in the photo or what he has been through since, it is hard to say what he should look like now. He does have a pretty large scar located on the inside elbow area of his right arm ( Red shirt Photo) Daniel was 28 when he was killed in Afgan. so he would be 39/40 today. I am having a hard time guessing curl guys age. He does have a decent amount of grey hair but that is not the best indicator.
Also does anyone recognize the Logo on his hat? I can't find anything that resembles it. (raven maybe?)
That's definitely PO 1st Class Aaron C. Vaughn: https://files.catbox.moe/uvyoft.mp4
And this is PO 1st Class Jon T. Tumilson: https://files.catbox.moe/8d7az7.mp4
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pentagon-releases-names-30-american-navy-seals-soldiers-killed-afghanistan-helicopter-attack-article-1.948474
Thanks never seen that Tumilson video. Is that first link you posted the original video that was put out on Tik Tok?
Yeah that the original.
I don't believe that video is curl man. It's too recent and the ages don't jive, imo. Similar looking guy, but not the guy in the picture kneeling next to the dog or in the cap and red shirt.
No, not even close. The picture of him and the women says he's Michael Hoffman?
Yea, Michael Hoffman is the the only name I have come across tied to him. Looks like it was some kind of art event that took place in Colorado
Can you post that video from S-Mar again? I saw it here again yesterday, but now I can't find it. I'd like to see it again if possible. Thanks.
Here you go - https://rumble.com/vxy5tf-tick-tock.html
Thank you. I wanted to see it again and yeah, I still say it's not that Daniel Z guy. Curl guy shows a close up of himself in his combat fatigues, kneeling down next to the dog. And then he shows another pic of him in a hat with a red t-shirt. To me, that doesn't look anything like that Dan. Z guy.
No problem, yea I'm still on the fence. The one thing we need to question is, is this the original video, or is this video one that someone added all that stuff on the left to, like a proof video. Or did curl guy put out a video pointing out his own user IDs and such? I say that because when he shows this photo - https://files.catbox.moe/9uhm27.jpg , the guy on the left is Jon Tumilson who was also killed, but Jon also had sleeve tats on both arms.
Good question and point. To me, the guy in the fatigues and the red shirt do look like a younger version of curl man. I have no idea what is going on, but he did allude to his memory being wiped. Makes me think that, like so many things, we can't believe what we've been told. Apparently he was reported dead, but he looks very much alive to me. So many plot twists in this movie, I'm lost.
Yea I have no idea either. Unfortunately for him to really come out and say what happened, Obama and Hillary need to be in prison first. Someone linked me a clip to the original clip - https://files.catbox.moe/uvyoft.mp4 . It does have a much different vibe without the Music and clips but his words do sound calculated and sincere.