Yestday's stickied mod post about the queers is the second time this has happened on this board, so I feel this has to be said. We CANNOT keep pretending like it's "ok" to be any flavor of the rainbow brigade.
Homosexuality and all it's derivatives are morally, socially, and naturally degenerate. Get over it.
We all said years ago that if it was allowed to be openly accepted and legalized they'd eventually come for the children and animals. And look at where we are now.
People demanding open acceptance of "MAPS" and zoophilia "pride" parades in Germany.
I'm not saying that there is no such thing as a conservative gay, that's stupid since they obviously exist. But we cannot allow open acceptance for this kind of thing in the public square. What people do in private is between them and God, but open advertisement and propagation of transsexualism and homosexuality have to become a thing of the past if we're to avoid the level of moral degeneracy we're faced with today in the future.
Furthermore, It seems a lot of people like to conveniently overlook that at it's base, our entire movement is essentially a Christian Nationalist movement where we want ALL nations to turn back to God and become (Insert Nation Name) first. To take care of their own citizens before worrying about everyone else on the planet.
Why do you think Q talks about God and Christian themes, etc. so often in the drops? Why do you think so many of our sides leadership are more or less Christian Nationalists? Trump, Desantis, Orban, and even Putin if you want to count him, all have varying levels of Christian Nationalism in their message. And most of them are pushing that more and more as time goes on.
And I know I'm probably gonna anger some on here, but I don't care anymore. This crap has gone on long enough, and people need to get over themselves. We're not calling for some kind of gay concentration camps. All most of us want is something similiar to what most Slavic Nations have going on, where it's illegal and a felony to advertise homosexuality, transsexualism, etc. in any way, shape, form, or fashion, and public displays of such things are also banned.
And don't even give me the whole "muh free speech" bit. There are just some things that NEED to be banned for the good of society. This is one of them. If you disagree, well then I'm sorry but you're just wrong. This crap HAS to stop if we're to move on and better ourselves as a society.
Interesting points made in this conversation, on both sides actually. I'm with you, but I can't say I've much faith in the schizophrenia medication. They still hear the voices, but the medication just makes them not care so much. My wife had a friend who had 3 abortions, was committing immigration fraud, and developed a severe case of paranoid delusional schizophrenia. She was put on those meds and she could still hear the voices, but just would laugh about it. I honestly think that schizophrenia is a severe case of demonization.
So we've got our gay fren here. As Jeremiah pointed out, this guy's parents freaked out when he was in the 1st grade, oversexualizing a situation that maybe wasn't a big deal. Most gays don't have fathers, but this guy has a military father. Maybe the authoritarian aspect is a driver, and maybe he was gone from home quite a lot. Too many factors to take into consideration.
As a Christian myself, I think most of us fall into the "it's a choice" mentality while secularists insist that it's genetic (despite the "gay gene" being a myth, but chromosomes are patriarchy anyway, so why should they care about racist science?). There is the indoctrination factor, through molestation and trauma. There is also an environmental factor. There really are chemicals in the water that turn the frickin' frogs gay, and I think we're seeing quite a lot of its result as we continue to poison the environment while those who've taken the bullhorn on environmentalism prattle on about cow farts and eeeeevil carbon dioxide molecules.
I think this guy was traumatized when his parents freaked out. I played doctor with my older sister and she tried to dress me in girl clothing a lot until my mom caught on and stopped it. I didn't know what was going on. I think once when I was a kid, I was swimming with a neighbor boy in the same grade and we sort of pulled out our dicks. Kids just do stuff as they figure things out. Heck, my older sister gave me a hand job when I was in the 4th grade or so. I didn't even know what happened, but I casually mentioned to Mom the next day that we'd taken a shower together and Mom freaked out over it and punished my sister. Parents freak the hell out over crap like this and they really shouldn't. I'd say this guy has given us enough to go on and it seems like his parents gave him a complex.
Hmm plausible. I'm not very much into psychoanalysis so I'll leave that to the armchair experts whoa actually know more than me lol.
My personal beliefs on the topic are a bit more in depth and hard to convey in a few lines of text. I DO believe it's a choice but I also believe it's some kind of disorder, hormone imbalance, or some other kind of "abnormality". It's similar to how someone with a mental addiction has urges and feelings but can choose to resist if they wanted to. But I also believe that such things are often caused by a spiritual influence. Either Divine (Such as the lame man who was born lame so that Jesus could heal him later in life as a miracle to bring Glory to God), or demonic (think like that guy who suffered from seizures in the Bible until Jesus cast the demons out of him).
I take a weird, middle ground that leans towards spiritual when it comes to stuff like this. God made the human body, and it's inner workings are an amazing work of art. But even the slightest of changes can cause abnormalities to emerge. These abnormalities can be something like, a slight hormone imbalance, or a certain nerve cluster doesn't work right, maybe your brain formed slightly off kilter, etc. Sometimes, God designs people to have these abnormalities from the start so he can heal them later as a miracle in order to further his glory and spread his word.
On the other hand, I think a lot of "mental health problems" are actually a manifestation of demonic possession. Yes we can treat them with modern tech, but to actually cure them, you need the power of God. Homosexuality falls under this category as well for me.
I personally know a guy who had cancer that was so bad he had a tumor the size of a Labrador retriever hanging off the entire side of his body and his arm. It was terminal, and he was in the process of dying, when all of a sudden it started shrinking for no reason, and eventually disappeared. To this day, the doctors still don't know how or why it happened, and can only explain it away as an act of God.
I think queers who repent and find Jesus and God are similar to this. God performs a miracle for them and fixes whatever physiological abnormality causes them to have the feelings and thoughts they have towards the same sex/gender.
But because there's so little research on the topic, we don't know exactly what that is that's being fixed.
I'm with you. It sort of is a choice, but there are so many factors. When I was 14, I never thought I'd have married an Asian woman since that didn't really click with me at the time. But what we choose to fixate on with our mind is where our heart follows. Nobody just out of nowhere becomes attracted to disgusting, degenerate, depraved stuff like "2 girls 1 cup." They have made the decision to take baby steps towards that and allow their thoughts to dwell on gross stuff like scat. It doesn't come natural. But outright freaking out over stuff as parents can produce compulsive behavior in children.
My uncle is interesting. I introduced him to Q and we have a lot to talk about. At the same time, I think he is an authoritarian father figure. He remarried with a woman who isn't too many years older than myself, and they had a daughter a year after my wife and I did. We were at my parents' home for a holiday like Christmas or something and their baby daughter became interested in trying to push the buttons on dad's DVD player. My uncle and his wife told her no and pulled her away from it. The baby crawled back over to the DVD player and they were waiting for her to touch it again and then scolded her, gave her a gentle swat on her hand, and the baby started crying.
My wife and I were like, WTF? Just guide her to the behavior you want her to have. Give her an option. Don't just wait for her to screw up and swat her. Babies are just babies. Give them options and distractions because by making it forbidden, now you've just made your kid fixated on touching the DVD player (or whatever situation you may have). I just have a feeling that our gay fren here was traumatized by his parents and they made a mountain out of a mole hill.
As for God's healing, both my parents have experienced that. My dad had broken his arm once upon a time and the bone did not heal right. He couldn't straighten out his arm. Then one night a voice told him to receive his healing and then he woke up and realized that he had regained all mobility in his arm. Mom had breast cancer and was healed, feeling the power of God course through her body like electricity. So yeah, God can do miracles!