My wife headed out of town so I was on kid duty.
Had to take my youngest to her gymnastics class.
Was standing there watching her like the proud papa I am when another one of the dads noticed my shirt and started up a conversation with me.
Turns out he’s a California refugee who managed to escape.
For 45 minutes he told me about his awakening experience… without any prompting.
I’ve been at this for well over a decade now, folks, and this NEVER happens. NEVER.
People now want the red pills, and we’re here to distribute them. Congratulations, y’all, on making it this far. There are effectual battles to be won, for sure, but we are winning the war!
Humidity might kill it. We moved from Minnesota (humid) to Colorado (not humid) and my husband’s health has never been better. He used to get bronchitis at least 1x/year.... and now I can’t remember the last time he was sick.
The size of what you’re talking about is exactly what we want.
Missouri is one of those places that I believe is great for homesteading... so I wish it could happen. We aren’t desiring to go full homestead... but some chickens and a garden would be nice. Oh, and a garage big enough for several motorcycles, gun safes, and work benches
Unsolicited pro-tip: you dont wanna be keeping gun safes (presumably with guns inside) in a garage, much less a garage with a humid environment. First one's asking for a break-in (can be seen by any passerby from the street), and the second one is asking for constant cleaning due to rust/corrosion. Even the best safe out there is no bulwark against thieves or rust when out in the open.
Optimally: Climate controlled, in the house, will mitigate both problems caused by the garage solution. Alternatively, if you're willing to invest, a proper built underground bunker is also perfect.
I offer these things because I care about your safety, your family safety, and care of the firearms that will ensure both.
100% correct. Unfortunately, I am in a garage situation as well. I keep a Golden Rod I think it's called in it and I have no rust issues. As far as the safety goes, I kept a flag over it w/ magnets and when it got opened the garage door is shut. It's also a 1500 lb Fort Knox. No one's getting into it.
I recommend GoldenRod. They have a lifetime warranty.
Undergrounds can be humid as well. A good dehumidifier venting overboard can help. A safe dehumidifier is a good idea in any case.
Bolting the safe from inside to the concrete slab will go far to prevent safe-snatching. A reasonably good safe, securely fastened to the slab will discourage all but the most determined thieves.
All points valid, but that wasn't what I was getting at. The issue is family safety; i.e. if you advertise, they will come. The key is not advertise to make your place as unappealing as the next house. Placing a safe in the garage is advertising and, if I were a thief, would see that and think, "This must be the guns they dont care too much about. Overflow. I bet the good shit is inside!"
As for underground, yes, that's why I said "invest"...meaning doing it proper, not just burying a cargo container and call it good. A proper underground bunker will have several amenities, least of which is a good air filtration/temperature control (this includes de-humidification).
So, again, your points are valid but off the point I was trying to convey: family safety.
I’m with you on all of your points, fren. I did neglect to say that I too think the garage is a terrible place for a safe, for many reasons not the least of which is visibility. We’re between houses right now and looking for a single story or ground floor master as we are older and don’t want stairs. The safe will likely be bolted to the slab in a spare bedroom closet. It certainly won’t be visible from outside.
I very much appreciate your comments! Pro-tips are always welcome. Our current safe is in the house, but garage did cross our mind. I'm better informated now, thanks!!
Pinetop, Strawberry, and that whole area down to Showlow is running out of water. Too many wells already from people escaping.
Ugh, indeed. Arizona has been damaged all over by trading mining and agriculture for "development." Easy money, people move in en masse, then what? Our mountains are so attractive compared to the low desert, especially right now, it started with second homes, then subdivisions, then permanent city, but they don't get enough water to sustain all this.
We've looked a bit at a few of those too. SD and Payson. Each have pro/con... But I am leaning toward SD because it already staunchly conservative and will be avoided by Californians more than Arizona.