Your posts here seem somewhat combative and contentious. The antipathy is unwelcome though. As a personal rule, I will never use ad hominems as you seem to be doing here nor will I down-vote anyone. You can be assured that this is not going to happen with me. I'll only seek to understand the other person's thesis and position. I may disagree, but I will always respect the other person's position.
To return to the Russian and Ukrainian conflict, the UkroNazis have previously declared genocide against the Russian speaking people of Donesk. This is not central to my reply so I will not provide the history of it at this time, but nevertheless it is the reason why the Crimea made their choice to be part of Russia. It is the same reason why the Donbass is acting to do the same.
You declared Russia did the bombing when Ukraine has been continuously bombing civilian areas of cities in the Donbass. For example, the hospital in Mariupol that Kiev claimed Russia bombed turned out to be the UkroNazis. First, war is hell; war is chaos and anarchy, and there is no such thing as a 'surgical strike'. Everything in war is collateral damage. But, the propaganda from war is the stuff made for fictional movies. In stating this, I'm not saying Russia hasn't bombed civilian areas. It's bound to happen, especially when military forces are set up in civilian dwellings. All of this is possible. It appears the Zelinsky regime doesn't cares less about casualties and far less than the Russians do. Estimates of Ukrainian loses is over 225 thousand so far since February. They had a real opportunity to end the war in April. However, Boris Johnson demanded Zelinsky do otherwise. To me, this really speaks volumes about Zelinsky. It is looking more true everyday that the Biden Administration is willing to fight to the very last Ukrainian and Zelinsky is satisfied with that. We know that Vladimir Zelinsky is not a rational politician or decision maker. He is an actor who pretends to have a huge dick with which he can play a piano (vid). Everything that he and his producer team in Kiev do must be seen in that light. They are playing to the Ukrainian and 'western' public for personal profits. It explains Zelinsky's $35 million villa in Miami and 70% of all the American military aid that goes missing in Ukraine. Each of their moves is calculated with that in mind. Telling the truth and the welfare of the local population are of no concern to them. When you said -- "If there was a propaganda campaign by the globalist side they would have changed that already to show the massive damage."
Regretably, you're not really in a position to know this as verifiable fact (either am I). It is however speculation on your part. These Satanic propagandists are not always smart and do make mistakes, but they definitely control the levers of mass media.
On July 7, in a session with Duma leaders and party factions heads, Putin said:
"Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try. We have already heard a lot about the West wanting to fight us ”to the last Ukrainian.“ This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but that seems to be where it is going. But everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything in earnest yet."
You're probibly right about me using ad-hom wording and being combative. I probibly shouldn't do that regardless. However the fact is its in response to people on these boards being so pro-Russian that they have attacked me in far worse ways. I figured out the reason a while back. The answer is obvious... they are Russian nationals. I'm American. What are you? I rarely even speak up about the war because I know I will just get shouted down unfairly.
You spent a lot of time talking about Zelinsky and his stupid masters. Then you talk about the Nazi factions in Ukraine. I'm sure they exist but they just like any other radical group do not represent the whole of Ukraine. I know this for a FACT. My nephew spent two years in Ukraine for his Mormon mission just a few years back. You and Russia act like Azov is the entirety of the whole military. Its what 1-2 battalions... out of like hundreds.
And Zelinsky... kek he's an idiot and joke. Who cares what he does. We all know the CIA is running this war.
I tried to address your claim... that Russia is carrying out a "soft war". That's utter crap. Also, I never claimed Ukraine was innocent. I CERTAINLY never claimed Azov and crew were. Both sides have done a lot of messed up crap. However, to the people on GAW Ukraine is the bad guy in every situation. They can do no right. They even get blamed for shit Russia actually did. Everything is globalist propaganda. Real Russian propaganda is dismissed as Ukrainian. Its just sad.
There is a more important fact that I want to make quite clear so I'm going to scream it at the top of my lungs. RUSSIA IS NOW LOSING! BADLY!!! Are we on the same page? That's not propaganda. Its not a globalist ploy to fool the world. Its just the hard facts on the ground backed up by dozens and dozens of amateur videos from multiple sources ON BOTH SIDES. They can't all be fake. In fact almost none of them have even been challenged as even maybe being faked.
Thus the strike on Ukraine's power infrastructure is purely a way to punish Ukraine and might even be a desperate ploy to slow down their complete rout of Russia in the north. Nothing more. Nothing less. See this post for further details.
One more thing... you said that Ukraine had an opportunity to end the war in April. What you really mean is they can capitulate to Putin and allow him to keep the territory he took by force just to stop the fighting. In other words Putin wins by default. Instead they kept fighting and they are now winning. You do realize(and I say this from the USA perspective) that what you are suggesting would be like if the USA attacked and took the entire eastern half of Canada and you said that the UK, AU, etc should all stop helping Canada so they can sue for peace and allow the USA to just keep half of Canada because... reasons.
It doesn't make a lick of sense. The territory is either part of Ukraine and they should fight for it or borders mean NOTHING. Every nation should just blast their weak neighbor and take whatever part of their territory they want for whatever reason they want. Like Canada wants the USA bread basket they should just take it. Brazil wants Venezuela's oil... just invade and take it. Total chaos. No big deal. SMH...
You are suggesting that when Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1991 that everyone should have just let him keep it. He won it fair and square. Those damn Kuwaitis had a few Nazi's in their midst anyway. Saddam had every right to de-Nazify them and sense he did he can just keep the territory. Pure madness. Its like we've regressed back to the 1500s.
If Putin is a white-hat that is part of the Q plan then HE FAILED at his task SPECTACULARLY. If he's not then he's just another thug trying to steal from his neighbor and you idiots are supporting/rooting for him. The fact that the person he's stealing from is a globalist puppet doesn't make it not stealing. Putin isn't freeing anyone. He's just a different puppet master.
Worse, now he's losing. He will end up the laughing stock of the world till the day he dies which I suspect might come very soon. His own people are going to throw him away once his failure is complete. Weak "strong men" rarely last long.
We'll see though. Battle isn't over. Maybe Russia will surprise us and somehow recover from this mess.
We are all intelligent fellows here. As a retiree and one ol' fart I value each and everyone's thoughts (even if I stink up the room on occasion). This old dog loves to hear the thoughts and perspective that each and everyone has. I truly do.
You asked - "I'm American. What are you?" Well, I'm American too. And colonial American as well. I don't know of another that lost so many members of their own family fighting in the Revolutionary War. There is 24 members that lost their lives fighting the British. You probably never heard my family name and the history books aren't inclusive either. That's quite alright with me though. I" prefer it this way. My family members have fought in every American war. From the time of King Phillips War and before to the present, it may be that my family has shed more blood than any other. My family goes further back to settling on these Massachusetts shores in 1636. Prior to this we trace the family to the midlands in England in the early 1500s. So yes, I am just as American as you.
You said - "I'm sure they [Nazis] exist but they just like any other radical group do not represent the whole of Ukraine."
The current Ukrainian government is based on the ideology of the neo-Nazi Stepan Bandera, who collaborated with Nazi Germany. When Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941, he prepared the 30 June 1941 Proclamation of Ukrainian statehood in Lviv, pledging to work with Nazi Germany. However, the German authorities saw it as an attempted coup and the Gestapo arrested him. Stepan Bandera is the current Ukraine government's revered hero.
The neo-Nazi Maidan was/is the dominant political force in Ukraine. Victoria Nuland provided the Soros sponsored US funding to MAIDAN. Nuland saw her big chance on Feb. 20, 2014, when a 'mysterious' sniper – apparently firing from a building controlled by the Right Sektor – shot and killed both police and protesters, escalating the crisis. On Feb. 21, in a desperate bid to avert more violence, Yanukovych agreed to a European-guaranteed plan in which he accepted reduced powers and called for early elections so he could be voted out of office.
For her part, Nuland passed out cookies to anti-Yanukovych demonstrators at the Maidan square, where the sniper massacre occurred and reminded Ukrainian business leaders that the US had invested $5 billion in their “European aspirations. As throughout history, the people in Ukraine are not represented by their government. Unfortunately, Ukraine has a very long history of being conquered and never really being a nation. Formerly it was referred to as the 'Pale of Settlement', and has been a part of Poland, Ottoman Empire, Khazaria, Lithuania, Austro-Hungary Empire, Genghis and Kublai Khan Empire, the Hun Empire, Roman Empire,....., etc.
You said -- "I tried to address your claim... that Russia is carrying out a "soft war". That's utter crap."
This isn't my claim. This comes from the sources I mentioned earlier. Even Putin said on July 7, in a session with Duma leaders and party factions heads:
"Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try. We have already heard a lot about the West wanting to fight us ”to the last Ukrainian.“ This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but that seems to be where it is going. But everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything in earnest yet.
Russia has treated this as a "special operation" to save the Russian majority living in the Donbass from an admitted Ukro-Nazi plan of genocide. Out numbered initially by 3-to-1, the Russians have used their far superior artillery and missiles for a Ukrainian to Russian casualty ratio of 10-to-1. It is estimated that 225 thousand Ukos have been killed since February. Ukraine has no military industry and the shipping logistics of foreign weapons will not help Ukraine's situation when Russia initiates a more full force war operation. Just like the Nazi Germans in WWII in Ukraine, the Soviets ended up having superior number of artillery and weapons to which forced the Nazis to retreat.
"If Putin is a white-hat that is part of the Q plan then HE FAILED at his task SPECTACULARLY."
There's far more about Putin than you may know. For one thing, Putin actually implemented a Russian version of 'Operation Warp Speed 2 months before Trump enacted Operation Warp Speed'. It's ironic that both these were near identical. It worked more effectively in Russia than in the United States. The reason was because the Fake News in America doesn't exist in Russia. Operation Warp Speed prevented the momentum of the lock-downs from going globally. Instead, there was only sporadic implementation of lock-downs in governments across the world. The Cabal was depending on the lock-downs to implement mandatory vaxxxination worldwide. And it if it had occurred hundreds of millions of people would have died. The expectation was over 1.25 billion would have perished. As we have learned, the lock-downs around the world killed far more people than the so-called 'COVID' "virus" did. It is estimated that 38 million people died from the lock-downs.
Did Putin and Trump know the Plandemic was going to occur? I find it ironic that Putin initiated the same plan 2 months before Trump did. Is Putin a "white hat"? I know that Putin kicked the Rothschild Central bank out of Russia. This Ukrainian-Russian conflict is a result of Putin throttling the Rothschild central bank of Russia years ago. Trump did the same thing in throttling the Federal Reserve while he was in office. We all know what happened to Trump, but Putin also did the same thing with great success.
Your posts here seem somewhat combative and contentious. The antipathy is unwelcome though. As a personal rule, I will never use ad hominems as you seem to be doing here nor will I down-vote anyone. You can be assured that this is not going to happen with me. I'll only seek to understand the other person's thesis and position. I may disagree, but I will always respect the other person's position.
To return to the Russian and Ukrainian conflict, the UkroNazis have previously declared genocide against the Russian speaking people of Donesk. This is not central to my reply so I will not provide the history of it at this time, but nevertheless it is the reason why the Crimea made their choice to be part of Russia. It is the same reason why the Donbass is acting to do the same.
You declared Russia did the bombing when Ukraine has been continuously bombing civilian areas of cities in the Donbass. For example, the hospital in Mariupol that Kiev claimed Russia bombed turned out to be the UkroNazis. First, war is hell; war is chaos and anarchy, and there is no such thing as a 'surgical strike'. Everything in war is collateral damage. But, the propaganda from war is the stuff made for fictional movies. In stating this, I'm not saying Russia hasn't bombed civilian areas. It's bound to happen, especially when military forces are set up in civilian dwellings. All of this is possible. It appears the Zelinsky regime doesn't cares less about casualties and far less than the Russians do. Estimates of Ukrainian loses is over 225 thousand so far since February. They had a real opportunity to end the war in April. However, Boris Johnson demanded Zelinsky do otherwise. To me, this really speaks volumes about Zelinsky. It is looking more true everyday that the Biden Administration is willing to fight to the very last Ukrainian and Zelinsky is satisfied with that. We know that Vladimir Zelinsky is not a rational politician or decision maker. He is an actor who pretends to have a huge dick with which he can play a piano (vid). Everything that he and his producer team in Kiev do must be seen in that light. They are playing to the Ukrainian and 'western' public for personal profits. It explains Zelinsky's $35 million villa in Miami and 70% of all the American military aid that goes missing in Ukraine. Each of their moves is calculated with that in mind. Telling the truth and the welfare of the local population are of no concern to them. When you said -- "If there was a propaganda campaign by the globalist side they would have changed that already to show the massive damage."
Regretably, you're not really in a position to know this as verifiable fact (either am I). It is however speculation on your part. These Satanic propagandists are not always smart and do make mistakes, but they definitely control the levers of mass media.
On July 7, in a session with Duma leaders and party factions heads, Putin said:
"Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try. We have already heard a lot about the West wanting to fight us ”to the last Ukrainian.“ This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but that seems to be where it is going. But everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything in earnest yet."
You're probibly right about me using ad-hom wording and being combative. I probibly shouldn't do that regardless. However the fact is its in response to people on these boards being so pro-Russian that they have attacked me in far worse ways. I figured out the reason a while back. The answer is obvious... they are Russian nationals. I'm American. What are you? I rarely even speak up about the war because I know I will just get shouted down unfairly.
You spent a lot of time talking about Zelinsky and his stupid masters. Then you talk about the Nazi factions in Ukraine. I'm sure they exist but they just like any other radical group do not represent the whole of Ukraine. I know this for a FACT. My nephew spent two years in Ukraine for his Mormon mission just a few years back. You and Russia act like Azov is the entirety of the whole military. Its what 1-2 battalions... out of like hundreds.
And Zelinsky... kek he's an idiot and joke. Who cares what he does. We all know the CIA is running this war.
I tried to address your claim... that Russia is carrying out a "soft war". That's utter crap. Also, I never claimed Ukraine was innocent. I CERTAINLY never claimed Azov and crew were. Both sides have done a lot of messed up crap. However, to the people on GAW Ukraine is the bad guy in every situation. They can do no right. They even get blamed for shit Russia actually did. Everything is globalist propaganda. Real Russian propaganda is dismissed as Ukrainian. Its just sad.
There is a more important fact that I want to make quite clear so I'm going to scream it at the top of my lungs. RUSSIA IS NOW LOSING! BADLY!!! Are we on the same page? That's not propaganda. Its not a globalist ploy to fool the world. Its just the hard facts on the ground backed up by dozens and dozens of amateur videos from multiple sources ON BOTH SIDES. They can't all be fake. In fact almost none of them have even been challenged as even maybe being faked.
Thus the strike on Ukraine's power infrastructure is purely a way to punish Ukraine and might even be a desperate ploy to slow down their complete rout of Russia in the north. Nothing more. Nothing less. See this post for further details.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JU81c01O/x/c/4OdhYjCxZtE
One more thing... you said that Ukraine had an opportunity to end the war in April. What you really mean is they can capitulate to Putin and allow him to keep the territory he took by force just to stop the fighting. In other words Putin wins by default. Instead they kept fighting and they are now winning. You do realize(and I say this from the USA perspective) that what you are suggesting would be like if the USA attacked and took the entire eastern half of Canada and you said that the UK, AU, etc should all stop helping Canada so they can sue for peace and allow the USA to just keep half of Canada because... reasons.
It doesn't make a lick of sense. The territory is either part of Ukraine and they should fight for it or borders mean NOTHING. Every nation should just blast their weak neighbor and take whatever part of their territory they want for whatever reason they want. Like Canada wants the USA bread basket they should just take it. Brazil wants Venezuela's oil... just invade and take it. Total chaos. No big deal. SMH...
You are suggesting that when Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1991 that everyone should have just let him keep it. He won it fair and square. Those damn Kuwaitis had a few Nazi's in their midst anyway. Saddam had every right to de-Nazify them and sense he did he can just keep the territory. Pure madness. Its like we've regressed back to the 1500s.
If Putin is a white-hat that is part of the Q plan then HE FAILED at his task SPECTACULARLY. If he's not then he's just another thug trying to steal from his neighbor and you idiots are supporting/rooting for him. The fact that the person he's stealing from is a globalist puppet doesn't make it not stealing. Putin isn't freeing anyone. He's just a different puppet master.
Worse, now he's losing. He will end up the laughing stock of the world till the day he dies which I suspect might come very soon. His own people are going to throw him away once his failure is complete. Weak "strong men" rarely last long.
We'll see though. Battle isn't over. Maybe Russia will surprise us and somehow recover from this mess.
We are all intelligent fellows here. As a retiree and one ol' fart I value each and everyone's thoughts (even if I stink up the room on occasion). This old dog loves to hear the thoughts and perspective that each and everyone has. I truly do.
You asked - "I'm American. What are you?" Well, I'm American too. And colonial American as well. I don't know of another that lost so many members of their own family fighting in the Revolutionary War. There is 24 members that lost their lives fighting the British. You probably never heard my family name and the history books aren't inclusive either. That's quite alright with me though. I" prefer it this way. My family members have fought in every American war. From the time of King Phillips War and before to the present, it may be that my family has shed more blood than any other. My family goes further back to settling on these Massachusetts shores in 1636. Prior to this we trace the family to the midlands in England in the early 1500s. So yes, I am just as American as you.
You said - "I'm sure they [Nazis] exist but they just like any other radical group do not represent the whole of Ukraine."
The current Ukrainian government is based on the ideology of the neo-Nazi Stepan Bandera, who collaborated with Nazi Germany. When Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941, he prepared the 30 June 1941 Proclamation of Ukrainian statehood in Lviv, pledging to work with Nazi Germany. However, the German authorities saw it as an attempted coup and the Gestapo arrested him. Stepan Bandera is the current Ukraine government's revered hero.
The neo-Nazi Maidan was/is the dominant political force in Ukraine. Victoria Nuland provided the Soros sponsored US funding to MAIDAN. Nuland saw her big chance on Feb. 20, 2014, when a 'mysterious' sniper – apparently firing from a building controlled by the Right Sektor – shot and killed both police and protesters, escalating the crisis. On Feb. 21, in a desperate bid to avert more violence, Yanukovych agreed to a European-guaranteed plan in which he accepted reduced powers and called for early elections so he could be voted out of office.
For her part, Nuland passed out cookies to anti-Yanukovych demonstrators at the Maidan square, where the sniper massacre occurred and reminded Ukrainian business leaders that the US had invested $5 billion in their “European aspirations. As throughout history, the people in Ukraine are not represented by their government. Unfortunately, Ukraine has a very long history of being conquered and never really being a nation. Formerly it was referred to as the 'Pale of Settlement', and has been a part of Poland, Ottoman Empire, Khazaria, Lithuania, Austro-Hungary Empire, Genghis and Kublai Khan Empire, the Hun Empire, Roman Empire,....., etc.
You said -- "I tried to address your claim... that Russia is carrying out a "soft war". That's utter crap."
This isn't my claim. This comes from the sources I mentioned earlier. Even Putin said on July 7, in a session with Duma leaders and party factions heads:
"Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try. We have already heard a lot about the West wanting to fight us ”to the last Ukrainian.“ This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but that seems to be where it is going. But everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything in earnest yet.
Russia has treated this as a "special operation" to save the Russian majority living in the Donbass from an admitted Ukro-Nazi plan of genocide. Out numbered initially by 3-to-1, the Russians have used their far superior artillery and missiles for a Ukrainian to Russian casualty ratio of 10-to-1. It is estimated that 225 thousand Ukos have been killed since February. Ukraine has no military industry and the shipping logistics of foreign weapons will not help Ukraine's situation when Russia initiates a more full force war operation. Just like the Nazi Germans in WWII in Ukraine, the Soviets ended up having superior number of artillery and weapons to which forced the Nazis to retreat.
"If Putin is a white-hat that is part of the Q plan then HE FAILED at his task SPECTACULARLY."
There's far more about Putin than you may know. For one thing, Putin actually implemented a Russian version of 'Operation Warp Speed 2 months before Trump enacted Operation Warp Speed'. It's ironic that both these were near identical. It worked more effectively in Russia than in the United States. The reason was because the Fake News in America doesn't exist in Russia. Operation Warp Speed prevented the momentum of the lock-downs from going globally. Instead, there was only sporadic implementation of lock-downs in governments across the world. The Cabal was depending on the lock-downs to implement mandatory vaxxxination worldwide. And it if it had occurred hundreds of millions of people would have died. The expectation was over 1.25 billion would have perished. As we have learned, the lock-downs around the world killed far more people than the so-called 'COVID' "virus" did. It is estimated that 38 million people died from the lock-downs.
Did Putin and Trump know the Plandemic was going to occur? I find it ironic that Putin initiated the same plan 2 months before Trump did. Is Putin a "white hat"? I know that Putin kicked the Rothschild Central bank out of Russia. This Ukrainian-Russian conflict is a result of Putin throttling the Rothschild central bank of Russia years ago. Trump did the same thing in throttling the Federal Reserve while he was in office. We all know what happened to Trump, but Putin also did the same thing with great success.