There is a guy on YouTube that plays phone calls from Russia soldiers calling home. He gives a translation. It is either an insanely elaborate hoax or half the fucking Russian military are using regular phones and don't care if anyone listens. Now to be clear these aren't calls like "hey, we need more fuel and rockets". No, these are calls like "Mom, half my unit was at the supply base yesterday and it blew up. They're all dead. I almost died. I want to come home. Cries..."
You and I both know if some YT nitwit has that sort of info then the CIA/NSA has 50 times what he does. I don't care if its 80% or just 20% the CIA is fucking listening to the Russians but the Russians are NOT listening to the Ukrainians in any meaningful way. Not any more. Maybe they had some access early on but they've been cut off. Its fucking obvious to anyone with half a brain.
World War Two was NOT won with men and tanks. It was won with disinformation, spying, and code breaking. Study the battle of Midway. We beat the Japanese because our code breakers told us they were fucking coming. Study D-day. The US/UK had an entire fake army created to attack France way up to the north of the actual attack. Germany(really Hitler) waited for a full 12 hours before he sent in his reinforcements because he was convinced the fake attack was the real one. That gave the allies time to establish their beachhead. That disinformation decided the battle before a single shot was fired.
As far as motivation... The deep state globalists run the fucking USA right now, or are you claiming Biden is legit? But if fucking Mexico invaded us tomorrow would you not be highly motivated to defend the lower 48? You'd get your gun and go help even if it was just driving a fucking truck with supplies. We're being fucking invaded.
Use your go damn head. You clearly aren't stupid. They are defending their homes, wives, sisters, brothers, etc. Ukraine's soldiers don't give two rats asses about your conspiracy theories on globalist manipulation of their government. All they know is a fucking tank is headed their way and they have to blow it up or they will be slaves to Russia at best or taken away by the secret police to be killed or gulag-ed.
On the other hand Russian soldiers know Putin's their Nazi's stuff is all bullshit. They know the Azov guys are real, but they also know they make up like 1% of the Ukrainian military. That would be like Canada deciding to invade the USA because of the KKK in the 60s and 70s. Hell the KKK probibly made up 2-3% of our population at the time. To save what 5-10k blacks from being lynched over decades you will invade and kill tens of thousands in a few months??? So Putin's solution to internal Ukrainian problems is to invade and turn the country into a smoking hole in the ground. That's super helpful. I bet more people will die from lack of food and sanitary water than would have died in Nazi purges. All that BS is just an excuse. You want proof its BS?
This could be propaganda but I seriously doubt it. When the Russian's fled the north lots of local people that helped them feared retribution by Ukraine. These are the very same Russian speaking people that Putin was supposedly saving from the evil Nazi in Kyiv. They were the ENTIRE reason for the invasion. Right? When the Russians retreated the civilians panicked packed their cars and ran with them. When they reached the Russian border the Russians turned them away. There were reports of long lines of civilians cars waiting to get across the border that then turned around and left.
Fog of war and all that its hard to be sure but it looks like to me that Putin would rather have those people face certain punishment for their betrayal so he can point at them and say see they evil Nazi in Kyiv are Nazi than to ACTUALLY SAVE THEM. The propaganda goal is more important than the people. He needs those people there as an excuse to invade again or continue invading etc. If they come to Russia he no longer has a reason TO STEAL UKRAINIAN TERRITORY. So they can suffer. Back into the meat grinder pleebs.
This war is just two sets of thugs fighting over valuable land. The eastern side of Ukraine is some of the most fertile growing soil ON THE WHOLE FUCKING PLANET. Putin might was well be invading Nebraska or Kansas. What is Ukraine trying to export from that area... WHEAT!
Wake up. Putin's just a thug. He's no different than the fucking bankers, globalists, or any of the rest of them. And he's lost this war.
working awfully hard to sell your opinion. that's not how GAW works. instead we provide sauce, maybe offer theories and then let others use discernment
And there lies the problem. Notice what happens if I speak out against Russia in any way? I get down-voted and shouted down. Truth be told I'm surprised some mod hasn't banned me. I just got fed up with holding my tongue. This boards has seriously lost its way. Tons of people drunk the Russia cool-aide and will not even entertain the idea that Russia is not a white-hat operation or that they could possibly be losing the war in any way.
(The two are not mutually exclusive BTW. Russia could be a white-hat and still be losing. There is no rule that says the good guys always win, and bad guys always lose. Personally I lean maybe 60% Russia is bad 40% its good. I'm on the fence mostly. I know for sure the globalists are bad and I know for sure Zelinsky is a globalist puppet. But see I just showed doubt is Russia's purity thus I must be shunned as a non-believer. Purged as a heretic. Facts, theories, and sauce my ass.)
Every fact put forward is instantly dismissed as globalist disinformation. It doesn't even matter if RUSSIA ITSELF CONFIRMS IT LATER. Just today they admitted to their loses... but yeah nothing to see here. They aren't losing at all. They can just retake all that and it will cost them nothing. (I'm rolling my eyes right now)
I stated clearly when I was giving an opinion and I backed it up with my reasons and facts. I wasn't treated with counter facts. I was told my facts were propaganda because they came from Reddit. So no truth can ever be posted on Reddit... got it. I was then given counter facts strait from the fucking Russian ministry of truth that they then recanted days later. Seriously...?
I based my opinions on things that IMMUTABLE. A video of a guy raising a flag that everyone agrees is in a town Russia used to hold. Multiple videos that clearly show abandoned Russian equipment not scuttled and not booby trapped. Some of the videos showed city streets everyone agrees are formerly Russian controlled towns as well, see flag videos(same towns). You can't just magically fake all those videos. Too many smart people on the net would dissect them and discover they were fakes. Ukraine learned that lesson the hard way with the ghost of Kyiv bullshit footage from a video game. They're clearly REAL.
I watched a video today that was unconfirmed propaganda but it explained all of the things I couldn't quite understand. The commenter said their were reports in Izium etc that Russian troops were so panicked to run away and when they drove in vehicle columns out of town they were hit with artillery and slaughtered. So they abandoned their vehicles and ran away on foot. The supposed reason the Ukrainian attack has slowed down is because they are now following those soldiers who are on foot and they don't want to attack them because they might turn around and actually fight. They would rather those panicked soldiers reach the next town and panic the next set of soldiers so they run away too leaving even more equipment.
Ridiculous right? Sounds like a made up story, but what if its true? What if the combinations or poor moral, lack of leadership, and lack of training has caused exactly that to happen. The commander gets in his SUV and flees because he's not stupid and doesn't want to die. Then the troops panic and take off. It happened in Iraq why not to Russian troops?
If true it REALLY doesn't look good for Russia.
Anyway it doesn't change my main point. I'm trying to call strikes and balls with a little flair. Everyone on this board is rooting for Russia to win and doesn't like being told their team isn't winning. That is a perfect recipe for a metric crap-ton of confirmation bias. Its kind of sad really.
So to you and all the people downvoting me... check yourself.
There is a guy on YouTube that plays phone calls from Russia soldiers calling home. He gives a translation. It is either an insanely elaborate hoax or half the fucking Russian military are using regular phones and don't care if anyone listens. Now to be clear these aren't calls like "hey, we need more fuel and rockets". No, these are calls like "Mom, half my unit was at the supply base yesterday and it blew up. They're all dead. I almost died. I want to come home. Cries..."
You and I both know if some YT nitwit has that sort of info then the CIA/NSA has 50 times what he does. I don't care if its 80% or just 20% the CIA is fucking listening to the Russians but the Russians are NOT listening to the Ukrainians in any meaningful way. Not any more. Maybe they had some access early on but they've been cut off. Its fucking obvious to anyone with half a brain.
World War Two was NOT won with men and tanks. It was won with disinformation, spying, and code breaking. Study the battle of Midway. We beat the Japanese because our code breakers told us they were fucking coming. Study D-day. The US/UK had an entire fake army created to attack France way up to the north of the actual attack. Germany(really Hitler) waited for a full 12 hours before he sent in his reinforcements because he was convinced the fake attack was the real one. That gave the allies time to establish their beachhead. That disinformation decided the battle before a single shot was fired.
As far as motivation... The deep state globalists run the fucking USA right now, or are you claiming Biden is legit? But if fucking Mexico invaded us tomorrow would you not be highly motivated to defend the lower 48? You'd get your gun and go help even if it was just driving a fucking truck with supplies. We're being fucking invaded.
Use your go damn head. You clearly aren't stupid. They are defending their homes, wives, sisters, brothers, etc. Ukraine's soldiers don't give two rats asses about your conspiracy theories on globalist manipulation of their government. All they know is a fucking tank is headed their way and they have to blow it up or they will be slaves to Russia at best or taken away by the secret police to be killed or gulag-ed.
On the other hand Russian soldiers know Putin's their Nazi's stuff is all bullshit. They know the Azov guys are real, but they also know they make up like 1% of the Ukrainian military. That would be like Canada deciding to invade the USA because of the KKK in the 60s and 70s. Hell the KKK probibly made up 2-3% of our population at the time. To save what 5-10k blacks from being lynched over decades you will invade and kill tens of thousands in a few months??? So Putin's solution to internal Ukrainian problems is to invade and turn the country into a smoking hole in the ground. That's super helpful. I bet more people will die from lack of food and sanitary water than would have died in Nazi purges. All that BS is just an excuse. You want proof its BS?
This could be propaganda but I seriously doubt it. When the Russian's fled the north lots of local people that helped them feared retribution by Ukraine. These are the very same Russian speaking people that Putin was supposedly saving from the evil Nazi in Kyiv. They were the ENTIRE reason for the invasion. Right? When the Russians retreated the civilians panicked packed their cars and ran with them. When they reached the Russian border the Russians turned them away. There were reports of long lines of civilians cars waiting to get across the border that then turned around and left.
Fog of war and all that its hard to be sure but it looks like to me that Putin would rather have those people face certain punishment for their betrayal so he can point at them and say see they evil Nazi in Kyiv are Nazi than to ACTUALLY SAVE THEM. The propaganda goal is more important than the people. He needs those people there as an excuse to invade again or continue invading etc. If they come to Russia he no longer has a reason TO STEAL UKRAINIAN TERRITORY. So they can suffer. Back into the meat grinder pleebs.
This war is just two sets of thugs fighting over valuable land. The eastern side of Ukraine is some of the most fertile growing soil ON THE WHOLE FUCKING PLANET. Putin might was well be invading Nebraska or Kansas. What is Ukraine trying to export from that area... WHEAT!
Wake up. Putin's just a thug. He's no different than the fucking bankers, globalists, or any of the rest of them. And he's lost this war.
working awfully hard to sell your opinion. that's not how GAW works. instead we provide sauce, maybe offer theories and then let others use discernment
And there lies the problem. Notice what happens if I speak out against Russia in any way? I get down-voted and shouted down. Truth be told I'm surprised some mod hasn't banned me. I just got fed up with holding my tongue. This boards has seriously lost its way. Tons of people drunk the Russia cool-aide and will not even entertain the idea that Russia is not a white-hat operation or that they could possibly be losing the war in any way.
(The two are not mutually exclusive BTW. Russia could be a white-hat and still be losing. There is no rule that says the good guys always win, and bad guys always lose. Personally I lean maybe 60% Russia is bad 40% its good. I'm on the fence mostly. I know for sure the globalists are bad and I know for sure Zelinsky is a globalist puppet. But see I just showed doubt is Russia's purity thus I must be shunned as a non-believer. Purged as a heretic. Facts, theories, and sauce my ass.)
Every fact put forward is instantly dismissed as globalist disinformation. It doesn't even matter if RUSSIA ITSELF CONFIRMS IT LATER. Just today they admitted to their loses... but yeah nothing to see here. They aren't losing at all. They can just retake all that and it will cost them nothing. (I'm rolling my eyes right now)
I stated clearly when I was giving an opinion and I backed it up with my reasons and facts. I wasn't treated with counter facts. I was told my facts were propaganda because they came from Reddit. So no truth can ever be posted on Reddit... got it. I was then given counter facts strait from the fucking Russian ministry of truth that they then recanted days later. Seriously...?
I based my opinions on things that IMMUTABLE. A video of a guy raising a flag that everyone agrees is in a town Russia used to hold. Multiple videos that clearly show abandoned Russian equipment not scuttled and not booby trapped. Some of the videos showed city streets everyone agrees are formerly Russian controlled towns as well, see flag videos(same towns). You can't just magically fake all those videos. Too many smart people on the net would dissect them and discover they were fakes. Ukraine learned that lesson the hard way with the ghost of Kyiv bullshit footage from a video game. They're clearly REAL.
I watched a video today that was unconfirmed propaganda but it explained all of the things I couldn't quite understand. The commenter said their were reports in Izium etc that Russian troops were so panicked to run away and when they drove in vehicle columns out of town they were hit with artillery and slaughtered. So they abandoned their vehicles and ran away on foot. The supposed reason the Ukrainian attack has slowed down is because they are now following those soldiers who are on foot and they don't want to attack them because they might turn around and actually fight. They would rather those panicked soldiers reach the next town and panic the next set of soldiers so they run away too leaving even more equipment.
Ridiculous right? Sounds like a made up story, but what if its true? What if the combinations or poor moral, lack of leadership, and lack of training has caused exactly that to happen. The commander gets in his SUV and flees because he's not stupid and doesn't want to die. Then the troops panic and take off. It happened in Iraq why not to Russian troops?
If true it REALLY doesn't look good for Russia.
Anyway it doesn't change my main point. I'm trying to call strikes and balls with a little flair. Everyone on this board is rooting for Russia to win and doesn't like being told their team isn't winning. That is a perfect recipe for a metric crap-ton of confirmation bias. Its kind of sad really.
So to you and all the people downvoting me... check yourself.