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Do you think God would allow that kind of comparison with all of his children? 💜. Wasn't Jesus trying to tell us we are all one with him? I believe the colonisers set this part up in the bible. So that the rest of the humans feel like nothing compared to someone else. Do people think Jesus would genuinely want people to actually worship him? Or would he have thought of himself as being the same as everyone and no better than anyone? We are more special than the bible may have us believe. I think it has been edited to make people feel powerless, but aren't we ALL Gods children/a part of God? You are worth a lot more than you think you are, I can promise you that 💜
Note: This meme and the content is not in the Bible. Maybe you're thinking of something else?
It's not the Bible that's at fault here (or with the points you raise). Rather, the fault lies with people and theologians projecting their limitations and interpreting the Bible on that basis.
Somehow, you've accepted all those interpretations as being the Bible, which they aren't.
And no, we are not one with Jesus. Rather, we need to strive to be one with Jesus. That innate potential is there, but there are many things one has to resolve and remove in order to realize that potential. That's just a biblical fact.
It doesn't devalue a person to recognize one's faults, or that we have been disconnected from God and our own original nature.
If anyone feels powerless on the basis of reading the bible, they're doing it wrong, and projecting their own limitations and interpretations just as much as any misled theologian.
That all said, I don't resonate with the meme here, and perhaps like you, I find the attitude and viewpoint problematic, because it distorts the value of each person.
The core theme of the Bible is yes, that we are God's children, but that somehow, we lost that position and that relationship, and that there is a lot of work and a lot of other things required to restore that innate potential. Because every human being has that potential, innately, each human being is precious beyond words.
This is also why, despite the obvious necessity for all the criminals to be held accountable and to be removed, God takes no joy in it (I'm sure) and we should remember: regardless of how the Devil destroyed this person, that person is originally one of God's children, and their loss is a tragedy of infinitesimal proportions.
Wow, thank you for your descriptive response. I genuinely enjoyed all of the points you have given here and agree, just in my own different way!
It's more for me, the fact that there are multiple 'bibles' but obviously under different names and religions. They all have very similar characteristics but most likely adapted to suit a certain sector. (With added restrictive rules).
I for sure like the bible for people who want to live up to a name like Jesus. I can absolutely see how it is good for some people. But people do also deserve to know we are much more than we're told. When people believe they are much more, they don't tend to want to do the work of the 'devil' anymore. It changes them inside and out.
I don't believe worshipping another human being is something we should ever do. We all came from the one source and we are all energy fields from the same place. To me, that makes us then a part of Gods/the universes energy field, just simply experiencing the world through a physical body/shell for the time being. I believe the truth is within all of us without needing to rely on an external source to tell us what is what. If we can meditate/pray on it, we will be told. The answer will come to our conscious minds.
Also just quickly, on your point of people originally being Gods children and turning into devilish ways, i agree! Though i don't believe a God would genuinely punish one of his children in the place described as 'Hell'. It's almost like an added fear instillation.
We may see 'psychopaths' in physical form, but at the same time - most likely they were also raised in highly traumatic experiences and it's taken them right off of the path, in their physical bodies. But still, their souls came from the same place ours did. One place. As one with eachother.
Usually in Natures/Gods/Universal law, people have their own karma circling right around back to them to teach them that they've gone off of the path of spirituality. For example, if you put out anger into the community, people will respond with anger and it won't feel like a nice exchange as it is. That's our decisions and choices circling back on us. If we kill someone, someone else will probably take matters into their own hands with us, that would be our decision to kill someone but there will be consequences (punishments) already for that in the same lifetime. What you put out into the universe, always comes back in one way or another.
It's my understanding that God would see us all as equal (including animals) and never ask of us to worship another, but more so, and as you said: perhaps instead strive to be like someone in particular, aka Jesus. It's a nice goal to have.
Thanks for the expansive response. Not to attempt to contradict what you say, but to share my views on some of the points, I'm going to reply below.
However, you may also like to read through my comments to PartOfGod below. Those comments also address some similar points.
I subscribe to the following perspective on this.
Firstly, that the Fall of Man as described in Genesis was an incident that tragically short-circuited our spiritual capacity by creating an unfathomable disconnect from our source, God, and bringing us (the collective human 'us) into a dysfunctional and destructive engagement with a very bad energy and direction, which manifested in the other being as genesis describes.
Along with that 'fall', our ancestors and subsequently all humanity, fell into ignorance. That's a big problem, because if you are ignorant of a problem (a condition), its causes, its effects, even whether it exists or not, then you cannot do anything to fix it, resolve it, heal it. In that state of darkness, we lost the capacity to even hear our inner voice and resolve our ignorance.
There are two types of ignorance: internal ignorance (aka spiritual ignorance) and external ignorance (ignorance of the material world). We fell into both. In order for us to be able to extricate ourselves from the condition we fell into, we need to recover knowledge, both spiritual and physical (material).
Science has very gradually evolved in order to recover material knowledge. Consider the thousands of years it took to (re)discover and understand how to find and use copper, steel, etc. biology, physics, etc. Humanity's technological development has emerged based on our recovery of material knowledge.
Did it all just come to us, magically? How many of the truly great scientists of our past have acknowledged that their ideas, thoughts, etc, came to them in dreams, inspirations, ideas popping into their heads.
In my view, the truth is that all that knowledge that we will ever need or know, is held by the Creator, and this has been, over time, gradually communicated back to us as the capacity in our minds has recovered or developed. The more mental and intellectual capacity we recovered, the faster and the more the knowledge could be shared back to us. (as you have pointed out, we can access so much now simply by tuning our minds to a particular wavelength, for example.)
Religions (meaning good or healthy religions) have been founded by the creator in order to communicate and facilitate recovery of spiritual knowledge. So, yes, I certainly agree: all the different religions have their own scriptures and teachings (funny that, right?), but each reflects different conditions, environment and personality of the people and the cultures that were recipients.
Hmmmm. My view is a bit different. To explain fully, I need to go back to a basic framework or view of how the universe functions and what the nature of the universe is. Normally, this requires a lot of time and a few chapters of thought, but to be brief:
The nature of the creator is love. Love, however, is something that is only realized and experienced through relationship. The creator created the universe in order to realize an object - someone he could experience full and perfect love with. Essentially, that object or recipient of love is humanity.
All relationship requires two parties or components. One stands in an initiating role, the other in a receiving role. e.g. Love is given, beauty is the returned experience.
The dynamic of all relationships in the universe is one of giving and receiving. They complement and complete each other. Imagine you love someone very deeply. You want to give everything to them, love them, see them fulfilled, happy. But if they never receive that love, your heart is never fulfilled. The giving is only completed when it is received.
In a reciprocal relationship, there is one party that first initiates the engagement (relationship) by giving. The other party responds to this by receiving. The connection is established. The next step, however, is for the receiving party to fully respond by giving back to the initiator. The initiator then steps into the position of receiver. I love, and am received. My beloved, responds, and loves me back, I am am now that person's beloved.
In this dynamic, the two become one. They become united.
Why do we love? What inspires us to give? It is the nature of the creator within us, the original nature that the creator endowed us, his children, with. So, in truth, in every true relationship and dynamic, there are 3 parties. The creator, the one who initiates the giving (in response to the creator's own nature within himself/herself), and the one who receives. Why do we receive? It is because the nature of the creator is also the nature of receiving.
So the nature of the Creator manifests as two: as the initiator, the one who gives first, and as the responder, the one who receives first.
However, as I said, the dynamic is fully completed (and can thus develop, and go to the next level as well) when giver and receiver become one in a reciprocal relationship where they both give and both receive.
So, something new is created: the unity of the two parties. That unity is something greater than either party. It is something entirely new - a marriage, a friendship, a child! A business! A farm!
That unity reflects the creator's own original nature of being both giver and receiver united.
This is the fundamental dynamic of all relationships in God's creation; It starts with the impulse from the Creator to either give, or to receive. It develops and manifests in the two parties of the give/receive dynamic. It is completed in the unity of the two parties, creating a fourth party: the unity itself.
Nucleus (protons and neutrons = +) exerts its influence on the electrons ( - ), which responds according to its own nature as endowed by the creator. Their reciprocal dynamic (relationship) forms an atom. + atoms and - atoms interact according to their nature, and form molecules. Male and female interact, and bring forth new life: offspring. etc.
The point here for this viewpoint I'm describing is that there is a reciprocal relationship that underlies all energy generating dynamics.
When you say we don't need to rely on an external source, well, I think that perspective is tainted by the concept of 'reliance'. Similar to partOfGod below, possibly. Sometimes we feel inspired to reject ideas like dependency, reliance, because we identify with the more negative or destructive elements of experiences or perceptions related to these.
But, a child is absolutely dependent on his or her parents until he is mature enough. There is nothing wrong or unhealthy about that. In fact, NOT being able to rely on or be dependent on someone or something when it is necessary is just as unhealthy as being dependent on someone or something when its counter productive.
A teenager might say "I'm not going to rely on my parents at all" in reaction to feeling overshadowed or dominated, stifled by the parents if they are not able to give sufficient space or opportunity for the teenager to develop.
We are, in point of fact, 100%, 1 billion %, reliant on God. (Lucifer was the one who seeks to deny this fact.)
We depend on the earth. We depend on the air, the nature for food, water, warmth, etc. That's not unhealthy or wrong. But, we are created to work for what we need. Just sitting there expecting everything to fall in our laps would be irresponsible and immature.
It seems to me that what you are emphasizing is that giving too high a reliance (an inappropriate reliance) on an external authority by relinquishing one's own responsibility to think, learn, etc, is unhealthy. However, I think it can be quite mistaken to go the opposite as well, and think that I cannot learn, benefit or that I don't ever 'need' any external source. Aka "I only need me". Because in fact, Although I am part of God, and a child of God, God is more than me, and in that sense, while both being inside me, is also external to 'me'.
When the internal capacity of humanity to access and connect with God internally was lost, it needed to be recovered (through lots of tears, sweat, and blood) over time, and as our inner capacity to connect and resonate with God was gradually restored, that capacity to receive guidance, inspiration, and internal direction via the INTERNAL avenue has also been recovered more and more. However, In the beginning, God had to give revelation; give teaching; give external information so that the resonance inside us could respond.
I think that's really important to realize. If you can meditate, reflect, and receive guidance through your connection with God, it actually comes on the foundation of millenia of sweat, tears and blood shed by God and by those he worked with, to gradually restore that capacity and inherit it down to you.
In my view, when you understand that, it brings a humility and an appreciation for the methods and means "outside" of you - external to you - that God has been using to reach out to and communicate with you, over millennia.
There is a temptation in 'new age' thinking that leads to the view that I don't need anyone except myself, or that somehow denies the value of 'external sources' as a reaction to <many different potential conditions>. That can be treacherous, because this is what evil wants humans to think, and lead them into a place of arrogance and isolation. Because, this is what Lucifer thought. I know better than God, I'm going to create a situation where "I don't need God".
When you pray, or meditate, or obtain insight and realization from within, it's important to realize that there is someone who is actually inspiring you or communicating that content, and that the real purpose of that is to build a reciprocal relationship with that person, whether it is the Creator, or the holy spirit, good spirits or guides, etc.
See here is the thing. The scriptures were provided and communicated based on the intellectual and spiritual capacity of the people at the time. In the old testament, God establishes a master-servant relationship, and appears as a frightening judge. That's part of God's nature (God must uphold truth and righteousness), but its not the whole story. When Jesus came, he revealed a completely new level of understanding, a completely new aspect of God's nature, and the kind of relationship God wants with us: a loving father.
Based on the new testament itself, it's very clear that we are scheduled for a final upgrade, where we grasp things on a level hithertofore inaccessible (because our capacity was not restored and we aren't/weren't ready to receive it).
I believe the correct or more accurate understanding in this case is that hell is the natural consequence of choices and actions that result in a certain spiritual condition. It's not punishment inflicted at all. But, if someone chooses to do evil, and destroy their own god-given nature, and create a hell that they come to live in, not even God can prevent that, because each child of God is given free will and also the creative capacity to either connect with God, thus experiencing the natural consequence - 'heaven' - or disconnect with God and thus experience the natural consequence - 'hell' (although there are myriad shades of spiritual condition between these, actually).
Fear has a normal and natural function, but like all emotions, it can be exploited, manipulated, or even generated for wrong or unhealthy purposes.
Fear of a danger is not a bad thing in some situations. But indeed, fear has been used and exploited by evil for millenia and for its own destructive needs.Fear is like an alarm response designed to get us to act swiftly to avert a danger. But remaining in fear for any extended period of time debilitates and degrades our heart and spirit, and becomes quickly counterproductive. Also, fear responds to perception, and lies can be provided to someone in order to generate fear which makes them much easier to control.
Likewise, worship can be healthy, or unhealthy. It depends. To love truly is to worship, to venerate, to appreciate. In my view, worship is a natural response that comes from being aware and grateful and cognizant of being given great, great love. It's the giving of glory, appreciation. It's the assignation of value to something that deserves that value. But it all depends on the heart. Worship without love is not really worship. It's a fake substitute.
The reason why the Ten Commandments includes not to 'worship' idols, is because putting anything but God into that central place of subject of love is false worship.
Amen
Many of them won’t admit it because it might Convict them causing them to think !!
Imagine thinking you need anything outside yourself to be something.
Jesus's words got lost in translation, he meant to say "I a son of God"
What makes you think I need Jesus? I Prime Creators essence.
Jesus never would of wanted you to be dependant on him.
We're all free to make our own interpretations, ain't we. That's what freedom is.
However, the problem that the scriptures describe is that we have a particular innate potential that was lost, and needs to be recovered. In fact, like a person who has fallen overboard in the middle of the ocean and who will, eventually, in time, drown, unless someone with a boat or ship comes along.
Salvation = restoration. Restoration of what? Lost capacity and lost potential. You come to a fork in the road, you make a bad choice and go down the wrong path. So you need to double back to where you got lost, where you lost the correct route, and then carry on from there. Restoration of potential, in order to carry on and finally arrive at your destination.
Likewise, if Jesus is in the boat, and you are drowning, the last thing either he or you should be thinking about is 'dependency'. Jesus is there in the boat, begging and pleading with you to just grab the gunwales, hold on, and climb in once you recover your (potential). (Here, evil is the ocean, and the boat is the place where the ocean no longer has the potential to drown you; you've been removed from the ocean.)
And the reason why scripture is necessary (even if it is not complete), is because that wrong turn those before us took, and which we inherited, resulted in a collapse into ignorance. Ignorance of who God is, who we are and why we exist, such ignorance that we could not even understand that we had fallen off the boat, how it happened, and that we are in fact adrift on the ocean.
This is the pitiful level of ignorance that our ancestors emerged from.
We need Jesus in the same way that a person with leukemia needs a bone marrow transplant. Sure, you've got blood cells, etc, but their capacity has been lost and their potential neutralized. So you need a bone marrow transplant from someone who is fully healthy, and whose capacity and potential not only exist in good shape, but who is fully healthy and mature. But, if you don't even realize you have leukemia, well, that's gonna be a problem.
I personally don't think you're exactly wrong, per se, because indeed we have that potential and God's original nature exists inside us. However, the problem that plagues humanity is that there are certain conditions and realities that arose (in our past) which damaged and which block that potential. There is an anchor around our ankles, while we're there treading water in the middle of the ocean. The rope or chain that attaches that anchor to us needs to severed. When we fell overboard, we lost all our knives. We need someone who actually holds a knife to give (inherit) one to us. Then, our own potential and strength can USE the knife to cut the rope.
But if you don't even understand that you lost your knives, or even understand what a knife is, that's gonna be a problem.
Another way of thinking about this issue would be to think of yourself as a member of an investor family. As part of that family, you have a certain amount of capital, hard assets given to you by a benevolent benefactor. You can invest and multiply those assets in order to have them reach their potential and generate wealth (spiritual life, aka spiritual capacity and spiritual potential realized).
However, at some point in your family's past (your ancestors' past), your ancestors handed all the assets over to a crook in exchange for [a lie]. They signed a contract, foolishly, handing over the assets in exchange for [a lie].
So now the assets are lost, held by someone else. You have nothing to invest, nothing to use as seed capital to get the ball rolling again.
In addition to the assets, your family (ancestors) also lost (handed over) their trading license, too. So someone else now holds and 'owns' those assets and the license or right to use those assets to trade, to invest. Lost through fraud and through deception, but lost none the less.
Not only lost. Now you are actually in debt to the crook that stole them. He holds a claim on your family, because your ancestors handed the assets and the license over in exchange for [the lie]. The assets are one thing (capacity) but the real crux of the matter is the license, because without the license, the assets ultimately cannot be traded, or invested to their potential.
So the benefactor who originally set your family (lineage) up in the first place figures, that sucks. And, "if I hadn't set your family up with the assets and the license, they wouldn't have lost them in the first place".
So he decides to work, over time, to help your family to restore (reclaim) their assets, piece by piece, helping them to recover the assets from the crook. He exposes this aspect of [the lie] and that aspect of [the lie], so that your family gradually comes to understand what they lost, and how.
Plus, he promises to send someone who can, when you have restored enough of the assets, and the conditions are right, someone who has the right and authority (e.g. the original licensing authority) to take the license back from the crook, and hand it back to you and by extension, your family and lineage.
This is the underlying truth of the Bible. Now, sure, you have the potential to own and manage assets, and you have the potential and nature to hold and use the license. But that potential cannot manifest unless those assets and the license are restored to you.
I don't mean this in any doctrinal way, but I think you may in fact not realize that all the assets and capabilities you hold today: to think, reason, to feel to exercise spiritual awareness, these have all been inherited by you from the ancestors and collective humanity that over millennia, the Creator has been restoring our spiritual capacity to after it was lost by our ancestors. That's the story the Bible is attempting to communicate, and get us humans to understand.
That's just my view, and it probably won't resonate with you, but I'll put it out there anyway.
"On that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you are in Me, and I am in you."
The man is talking about a potential, a potential that was unrealized for those he was speaking to, and which is (was) to be realized at a certain point in the future.
So, as far as that potential is concerned, yep, you're right. Not outside one's self. However, that potential is not necessarily realized. It needs the yeast. It needs the bone marrow transplant. It needs to be extricated from the ocean and raised to dry land.
That's why you need not only the restored assets (spiritual capacity and growth) but also the license. Reclaimed and reissued in your name by the agent of the licensing authority, the man himself, who, on your behalf, and everyone's behalf, has the job of recovering it and inheriting it back to you, and your lineage. That is what the scripture and the man himself is attempting to tell you. Least, that's how I see it.
If you read this, cool. Personally, I'm simply grateful for the opportunity to reflect on these issues and share these views, which I wouldn't have been inspired to do if not for your original comments in which you express your views.
I am constantly reminded that no one has a monopoly on truth, or has a complete and full view of truth, but that everyone's view has at their root, some elements of truth. The main challenge as I see it, is to find those elements, and see how they can work with other elements to round out the picture we are all wanting to see.
Have a nice day, fren?
Hey, thanks for spending the time writing that out.
I see your perspective and the truths, I also see beliefs that imprison you.
When I say dependant, I want to extend that to the Bible because no one has a monopoly on God or Jesus.
What if I told you there is newer communications / scripture from Jesus, who gives context and explains things further?
https://www.google.ca/books/edition/A_Course_in_Miracles/Or8kc0UVL_IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover
If you have strong beliefs, you will ignore it or say it was written by Demons because you will only listen to what the Bible has to say. You are now dependent on only one scripture and you imprison yourself.
The only thing powerful enough to imprison the sons of God are beliefs. Beliefs like 'sins' or feeling guilty, beliefs that Prime Creator judges you.
Here is my short and sweet summary of my current belief:
The idea of Angels (Lucifer) rebelling against Prime Creator comes from when we decided to enter a fever dream. The theme of the dream is: God Is Dead.
We created this physical reality and non physical reality to experience what it is like to be separate from God, it was a horrible dream but Source sent his angles and turned the fever dream into a curriculum.
The fear of God comes from this, where we think we betrayed God by coming here... by leaving God, but it's impossible to betray God.
It's impossible to sin against god, it's impossible to overthrow god. Lets say the root of all evil is the Ego, when I say belief traps / beliefs, i mean your Ego is trapping you. People refuse to step outside their ego and see other perspectives (not everyone)
At a lower level, here on Earth we are imprisoned through beliefs implanted into our culture by negatively oriented children of god who are more deeply asleep than we are. (God didn't present Mosses with the Ten commandments, those were negatively oriented ETs) They are deep in the dream that they need other sources of energy to keep going. So when you 'die' / lose your physical body, you go into non physical reality which is STILL part of the dream / illusion. You can be greeted by Jesus and he talks to you and could say something like "Oh you sinned here and here in your life, you should go back and right this wrong"
So that wasn't actually Jesus, it was a demon taking the shape of Jesus and tricking you back here. We have free will, no one can make you do anything, you can only imprison yourself in beliefs or tricked into agreeing to do something.
It doesn't have to be Jesus, it can be whatever you believe will trick you into coming back here.
The white light that is reported in near death experiences is a trap, it gives you amnesia so you are more easily tricked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapingPrisonPlanet/comments/pyijav/ive_researched_the_afterlife_for_nearly_10_years/
This is a really good post.
When we feel fear, anger, guilt we are feeding negatively oriented entities. That is where Satanic scarifies comes from, cause a lot of fear and pain to feed the losers (demons). I call negatively oriented entities losers in my head, they need the most love and are the most lost.
The cabal causes trouble for us on the planet so that they can generate more energy for their loser gods (little g gods)
OF COURSE, I try not to trap myself in beliefs, my beliefs were recently changed to this and they will change again.
The verse is, "Without Me, you can DO nothing."
Yep, just an ass.
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