- https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/07/27/you-know-who-was-into-karl-marx-no-not-aoc-abraham-lincoln/
- https://www.marxists.org/history/international/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm
- https://www.openculture.com/2022/01/how-karl-marx-influenced-abraham-lincoln-and-his-position-on-slavery-labor.html
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Take everything with a huge pick of salt. Important take aways:
Translation: It was a polite response not from Abe, but from his ambassador.
Translation: Abe and Marx never met each other, but that does not stop those who want to smear to find connections like this. I am assuming this was the best connection they could dig up.
Whoever Blackburn is, its his opinion, and his opinion is not much worth for us.
Again, no evidence, just opinion. If they were mutual admirers, lets see their correspondeces.
Okay we are getting to the crux of the real truth. Cabal caused a lot of headache to Abe using slavery just like BLM was being used in 2020 . Looks like Marx was at the forefront of this.
We all know the real goal of the Cabal was to break up US in the Civil war, and whether you hate him or love him, he foiled their plan and pushed back their agenda by another 100 years at least.
And this article is actually providing real evidence how Marx was behind this campaign.
Okay, we are getting more juicy material here. Read between the lines and you will see that Marx was one of the people who twisted the situation to force Lincoln into the civil war.
Sure sure, as much as a provocateur will be interested in tools to use against his intended victims.
Wow, this is explosive if you know how to read Cabalese. American Civil War and Russian Revolution were supposed to happen in tandem. Bring down the biggest two obstacles to the Cabal. Tsar stood up to them but eventually succumbed, but good ole Abe managed to prevail.
Read this carefully. All they have to offer is "met Marx in 1848" to make it sound like Abe had a hardcore commie in his administration.
Folks, this is an excellent exercise in understanding what "Fake News" means and in how many different flavours it comes in. This kind of rubbish should be nipped in the bud.
Brilliant rebuttal, well thought. Thanks.
Just hang tight on that sentiment. We'll help you to see that u/bubble_burst is unfortunately not contextually right on this topic.
Presidents usually reply to letters via their ambassadors / secretaries. It has to receive the approval of the president before it gets sent. Presidents (especially back then) are usually too busy to read and write their own mail. They often had someone read it to them and they would dictate a response rather than writing it. Which still gets rubber-stamped by them before it gets sent.
You can read the original letter here: https://archive.org/details/karlmarxcivilwa00schl/page/12/mode/2up
Or also in the link posted by OP: https://www.marxists.org/history/international/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm
They didn't need to meet personally. Abe had handlers who worked for the Rothschilds, just like Marx did. As briefly mentioned in the above pamphlet entitled "Karl Marx and the Civil War," Garibaldi and Mazzini were two Masonic revolutionaries that spearheaded the abolitionist movement and they also were associated with the committee of socialists and revolutionaries which Marx wrote on behalf of. In other words, the Rothschilds had these two agents operating on both sides of the pond, so Marx and Lincoln were joined at the hip anyway, despite never having met in person.
For more documentary evidence, see The Curse of Canaan by Eustace Mullins (1987): https://archive.org/details/mullins-e.-c.-the-curse-of-canaan-1987/page/146/mode/2up
Actually, this is an important admission. This is communist codespeak for the revolution we're seeing unfolding right now. The Civil War was just the beginning. As admitted in a Soviet training for brainwashing America discovered in the 1960s, America was intended as the initial stage for the first communist revolution in the world. The Civil War was intended to facilitate this effort. But it didn't happen fast enough and Russia became the stage instead. But now, here in the 20th-century, we're seeing all the corruptions resulting from the Civil War culminating in the chaos we're seeing now.
Blackburn's book is interesting in its own right, although he's a commie author himself: https://www.amazon.com/Unfinished-Revolution-Karl-Abraham-Lincoln/dp/1844677222/
(But sometimes, commies admit intriguing things too, which we should all know here)
I linked you to several documents containing them. Read them for yourself:
https://archive.org/details/karlmarxcivilwa00schl
https://www.marxists.org/history/international/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm
Not true at all. Just as Marx says in his letter congratulating Lincoln on his re-election: "If resistance to the Slave Power was the reserved watchword of your first election, the triumphant war cry of your re-election is Death to Slavery."
This was again codespeak for something beyond its surface meaning. In fact, Marx was alluding to Lincoln's genocide of the South which actually occurred during the Civil War and Lincoln's re-election. Marx was congratulating Lincoln on genociding the people of the South. Even the infamous Union general William Tecumseh Sherman admitted, after the war, that the form of warfare that he had waged against the South violated the rules of war that had been taught at West Point. Lincoln's war policy also violated the rules of civilized warfare that had long been accepted by European nations.
Lincoln wasn't forced into the Civil War at all. For some good reading material on this issue:
You're correct about the Czar, but Lincoln was not the guy that "managed to prevail." He realized that he'd been used by the war's end, and between him paving the way for central banks and corporatizing Congress, the bankers realized it was too sweet of a deal to let anything jeopardize it, so they killed off their pet. Lincoln began to resent the control he'd been placed under, although he had followed their orders for many years.
Lincoln had many hardcore commies in his administration. For a good book on this facet of this issue:
Although the WaPo is pure shit, this article and the other links represent an important admission about Lincoln being bad for America. There are lots of other things to prove this fact, but you'll have to be able to throw off your idolatry of Lincoln before opening your eyes to this truth.
Ultimately it requires a holistic view of history to understand why Abraham Lincoln is not the hero that modern Americans have made him out to be. For some extra material on this, here you go:
First off, I think we both agree on a lot of basics here. I will just list those first.
When Lincoln took the presidency was he an agent of the secret societies ? Yes
Was his administration filled with Freemasons? Yes (America was founded by Freemasons)
Did Lincoln care about Slavery ? No
Did Lincoln commit a lot of unconstitutional acts ? Yes
Now for the question of Abe's commie connections
Everytime we talk about commie connections of any leader we have two ask two questions:
Was the person a puppet to the commie ideology ? These are people who don't understand what Communism is really about but fall for ideology.
Was the person a puppet master ? These are people who know exactly what Communism is about - central command and control.
Answer to the second question w.r.t Abe is a resounding no.
Answer to the first question: Even you have only alluded to an indirect connection to communists via Rothschild handlers - but I already conceded he was a Freemason. The only direct connection you have linked is the book "Red Republicsns". I couldn't pass judgement on that book without reading it in full, unless you can actually provide a list of people in his administration with open links to communism. Otherwise to my gut, it looks like a standard smear job.
As for the communication between Marx and the Ambassador:
Talking about code speak, here is an important text from the response:
Clearly disassociating himself from any revolution, not matter how badly Marx wants confirmation that Abe is on his side.
Answer to the question of being forced into Civil War
Lets answer these two very critical questions:
Did Abe have a constitutional right to stop the South from seceding ? NO
If South had seceded, would it have been good for the humanity? ABSOLUTELY NOT
So, why do I think Abe was a hero? Because he was one of them. He realised their true intentions. He then did his best, even damning himself by doing unconstitutional things to stop the break up of America, because divide and conquer has been the proven technique by the Cabal all over the world.
You can cry about him being a tyrant and unconstitutional monster and the South had a right to secede etc, all day. But the secession by the South was product of the media manipulation - think BLM on steroids - not the true will of people.
Do you want to see the fruits of his labour? In your own words:
Exactly my point. Why did that revolution they were planning in Lincoln's time unfolding only 150 years later?
Because of what Abe did. He broke all rules, constitution etc to stop them from achieving exactly this.
I have no problem with people hating him for the right reasons. Yes, he is technically a tyrant, but also the reason why we are able to stand on our feet today and finish this fight.
This also explains why Trump is so extreme with following everything by the book. And why this plan has taken so long. Great Awakening has been built on top of the shoulders of the giants like Lincoln, Kennedy etc learning from their mistakes.
Very well said.
See: https://greatawakening.win/p/15JnBH0ozx/x/c/4OdinrC3gLi
Just hang tight on that sentiment. We'll help you to see that u/bubble_burst is unfortunately not contextually right on this topic.
Post it I will read it.
And have a downvote,for downvoting me.
Not a good way to win around here.
See: https://greatawakening.win/p/15JnBH0ozx/x/c/4OdinrC3gLi
Why do you think I downvoted you? You know what ass-uming does to oneself.
Thanks for your reply u/bubble_burst. Unfortunately you don't have things framed properly and clearly are missing context in your reply. Will try to reply or request another of my digital peed friends on the .WIN network who has more time and/or an even deeper perspective that can help you to readjust your contextual understanding / mental map.
Not trying to start a fight of flame war, just wanting you to know and be aware that you're off base here and I think that since you're a moderator and influential in the community that it would be helpful if you were to have such a better vista of this topic... And thus it will be a proper investment to help in this regard since I know I would not simply be replying to a commie shill dickbag.