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General Chat for Mon, Sep 26
posted 3 years ago by bubble_bursts 3 years ago by bubble_bursts +127 / -0

What is this thread all about?

Just a place for general discussion. A place to unload whats on your mind and talk about anything - personal, health, help needed, achievements, daily highs and daily lows, theories, predictions and what have you.

Does not need to be Q related.


Yesterdays General Chat

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Korean Bapsang is pretty good. As for Maangchi, I really enjoy listening to her videos, because her Korean-accent is so delicious when she speaks English. I spent the majority of the years of my youth in South Korea, and there is nothing quite like the Korean accent when someone speaks English, at least to my ear. Like mama's home cooking!

I occasionally make black bean noodles (ja-jang-myeon). I have a history with jajangmyeon. i first encountered it when living in the dorm at my university. In those days, you ate whatever they gave you. They only made one dish for every meal, so you either ate that or went hungry. When I first sat down with this bowl of ink-black food in front of me, it was a real mental struggle. Black food! Whaaa....? Didn't even look edible.

But after a few times, I got over the mental barrier, and it became one of many, many favorites. It has a certain position in the Korean cuisine - Koreans like to pig out on this food. It's a type of eat-out gobble-up favorite. However, although it's Korean food, in actual fact it is derived from Chinese cuisine, just Koreanized. In Korea its "Chinese food" and in those days, all the "chinese cuisine" restaurants (except the super authentic Chinese ones) served the Korean versions of Chinese food. "let's go get some Chinese food" is what you'd say to your buddy if you wanted to eat jajang myeon.

I'll sometimes throw in a tablespoon of sugar when I'm preparing it, but it's usually not that sweet. Took me a while to get the taste right, but it's become a staple.

If there is a Korean restaurant anywhere near you, go down and buy a bowl to check it out. Even though in Korea it's "Chinese food" (chung-shik), some K restaurants overseas (i.e. in the west) will carry it, because its a really popular eat-out dish for Koreans. So generic places will offer different types of Korean favorites - they cannot really afford to specialize like they do in Korea (south) because there's not enough Koreans to make it work. So, overseas, in my experience, it's all just "Korean". But in downtown Seoul, mostly you'd have to go to a Chinese restaurant (chung-hwa yori) to get black bean noodles.

Reminds me of a curious thing about K-bbq and how cultures interpret other cultures in their own way. Early in the 90s, Korean food started to make inroads in Japan. Prior to '88, there was very little K-J cultural exchange; both countries were pretty hostile to each other culturally. But in the 90's things started to change, and Korean food started to catch on in Japan.

One of the first things that caught on was yakiniku (literally "flamed or fried meat", aka barbecued meat, aka "barbecue" Korean style). But as is often the case in such things, the Japanese did Korean-bbq in their own way, modified and made more palatable to the Japanese palate and the Japanese sensibility. So, even though it was a Japanized version of Korean bbq, for Japanese, they think this is 'eating Korean-style food'. Just like Ja-jang-myeon (bb noodles) is actually a Koreanized version of Chinese food.

It was really funny for me when, after not living in Korea for a few years, I took my family over to Seoul one time (from Japan), and I spotted a big sign on a restaurant somewhere in downtown Seoul saying " 일본식 야키니쿠" which translated says "Japanese style yaki niku". So essentially what they were promoting "Japanese-style Korean-style barbecue" as Japanese food to Koreans!!!! <chuckle> True story.

Regarding the cost of kimchi, that's a big reason I started making it, too. Just getting too expensive. But now, I feel like I've really arrived with it, and I don't think I'll be buying kimchi for home use ever again.

I want to make my own doenjang soo bad

Wow, ambitious!!! Me? I'm a lazy bones.

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

kek.

Yeah, I hear you about finding places to shop. I'm living in a big metropolis now, and Korean food is becoming increasingly popular. That said, the city I live in is kind of famous for having access to just about ANY type of cuisine in really quality forms. It's a gustatory Disneyland. Wait, no strike that (blegh). It's a gustatory Las Vegas, sans the mafia.

japchae! Oh, my japchae! Really like this when I can get it, but man, it's such a heaping lot of work. A lot!

cinnamon hotteok...... oh, man. That takes me back. Nothing like walking in the downtown area on a cold winter afternoon when it's like - 2 or - 3 degrees (celcius) (= ~ 27 fahrenheit) and just stopping at some ajuma's hotteok stand and grabbing one of those bad boys and munching on it in the street. Which, you are allowed to do if you stand at the stall.

Maybe Seoul has changed, but in my day, if you ate food while walking, you'd get sniggers. That's because eating and walking at the same time is (was) really juvenile behavior; only little kids would do it coz they don't know any better. Or ignorant Americans..... And in the old days, any non-asian foreigner = American.

Took me about a year of full immersion to master the difference between ㅓ and ㅗ. In my particular native version of English, both these sounds are the same phoneme. Training the ear is a big part of training the tongue.

"I also can't hear any difference whatsoever between ㅂ and ㅃ or ㅅ and ㅆ, or any of the other ones." Well, yeah. That's coz the sound palate is different. In English, to a native English speaker, we simply do not distinguish between those sounds. In English, they are "the same" - they have the same phonemic value.

Just like for us, b and p are completely different phonemes, but for a Korean, they are one and the same!

Good luck and hope you make headways. Aside from JRR Tolkien, Korean was my doorway into the wonderful world of linguistics, which became my profession.

Oh, the things I could expound on the glories and the genius and the awesomeness of the Korean language. But, another time....

A blessing on your learnings.

And, remember the 3-fold rule. A language is not a knowledge set, like history or maths, or physics. It's an ability to communicate. As such, acquiring that ability requires work in three adjacent areas: intellectual (knowledge) + physical (skills and capabilities requiring training of the nervous system and the muscle system) + real world experience (actual use in communicative engagement).

At this point, the Iron is Out....

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