Cheers. On post 4739, I don’t count that as a Q post mentioning Jesus. It is a set prayer and it is not signed Q. I don’t know where the prayer comes from but it is not Qs own words and referring to God as the Supreme Commander, which is a Military sounding term, raises my suspicions.
I also don’t consider Donald Trump a Christian. I KNOW I’ll catch flak for this but Trump said he never asks God for forgiveness, he couldn’t quote a single passage from the Bible when asked, although when he spoke on that talk show in the 80s I believe he said he follows the Old Testament way of an eye for an eye ie revenge which automatically puts him at odds with the sermon on the Mount and with even just the general gist of Jesus’ ministry.
Also, Donald Trump confessed in his book the art of the deal to having a Kabbalah teacher, we know his daughter and son in law are not only Jewish but are of the genocidal Chabad Lubavitch sect. Trumps love of Israel is well documented and I’ve never heard him speak of Jesus even once (though I stand to be corrected).
Added into that the fact that Trump was always actually a democrat and only became a Republican for his election campaign (is this correct? When did he become a Republican?) then it makes things more than a little bit iffy on his Christian credentials and raises the distinct possibility that he was just gaming the Christian vote, which is overwhelmingly Republican.
You are correct that Q drew reference to Freemasons but not anywhere near enough for my liking, given the humongous influence they exert over world events. It felt more tokenistic than anything else, like he knew his credibility in these matters would be severely undermined if he didn’t throw a bone.
Again I agree with you on most of these points. There's a reason I didn't vote for him (or Hillary obviously) in 2016. I thought he was a center of left New Yorker who somehow grifted a bunch of Christians. I voted for him in 2020 because he largely delivered on what he said he did, and I found out just how much the media lied about him. Along with obviously Biden was horrible, racist, and corrupt.
It's obvious to me that Trump supports and embraces Q. We will have to wait and see to ultimately know what side he embraces. However I will say ending Roe v Wade is the biggest conservative achievement in 40+ years and he made it possible. Making it possible to outlaw abortion is not a freemason or "do as thou wilst" thing to do.
I concede that he has at least mentioned him then, however saying Jesus is more famous than him isn’t an endorsement.
It doesn’t mean that Trump is Christian or a follower. He could have said Karl Marx was more famous than him but would that mean he was endorsing Marx?
Beyoncé is more famous than me but I don’t care about her or her music.
He’s alluding to it without saying it, for the benefit of the crowd, knowing that they will interpret it as such but these people are masters of equivocation and of deceptive language.
Is there anything explicit where Trump acknowledges Jesus as the son of God or states that he is Christian?
He definitely embraces Q but Q says it is the US military (and therefore not Jesus) that is the saviour of humanity.
Trump has stated he is Christian multiple times but like you I am now hesitant on that term because it means "little Messiah", it is not explicitly one that points to Jesus.
However, this is not the first and only time he has pointed to Jesus.
https://youtu.be/8QyDt8FhrMM Start at 7 min and go to about 10 min.
Q is very strange sometimes. It is like a mix of viewpoints as you said. "Brave New World" has only been used ironically and even there it may have been ironic, because much of the unveiling over the past few years has been being shown the total depravity of the Cabal.
I too I am highly suspicious of anyone who claims saviorhood or someone else is a savior. I think that can only be seen by us in retrospect. But there are multiple times God used mere men as a savior. Moses was an example, so was David, so was Jonah to Nivevah.
Cheers. On post 4739, I don’t count that as a Q post mentioning Jesus. It is a set prayer and it is not signed Q. I don’t know where the prayer comes from but it is not Qs own words and referring to God as the Supreme Commander, which is a Military sounding term, raises my suspicions.
I also don’t consider Donald Trump a Christian. I KNOW I’ll catch flak for this but Trump said he never asks God for forgiveness, he couldn’t quote a single passage from the Bible when asked, although when he spoke on that talk show in the 80s I believe he said he follows the Old Testament way of an eye for an eye ie revenge which automatically puts him at odds with the sermon on the Mount and with even just the general gist of Jesus’ ministry.
Also, Donald Trump confessed in his book the art of the deal to having a Kabbalah teacher, we know his daughter and son in law are not only Jewish but are of the genocidal Chabad Lubavitch sect. Trumps love of Israel is well documented and I’ve never heard him speak of Jesus even once (though I stand to be corrected).
Added into that the fact that Trump was always actually a democrat and only became a Republican for his election campaign (is this correct? When did he become a Republican?) then it makes things more than a little bit iffy on his Christian credentials and raises the distinct possibility that he was just gaming the Christian vote, which is overwhelmingly Republican.
You are correct that Q drew reference to Freemasons but not anywhere near enough for my liking, given the humongous influence they exert over world events. It felt more tokenistic than anything else, like he knew his credibility in these matters would be severely undermined if he didn’t throw a bone.
https://youtu.be/0LZqeGrEEfM End is "and it's not even close"
Again I agree with you on most of these points. There's a reason I didn't vote for him (or Hillary obviously) in 2016. I thought he was a center of left New Yorker who somehow grifted a bunch of Christians. I voted for him in 2020 because he largely delivered on what he said he did, and I found out just how much the media lied about him. Along with obviously Biden was horrible, racist, and corrupt.
It's obvious to me that Trump supports and embraces Q. We will have to wait and see to ultimately know what side he embraces. However I will say ending Roe v Wade is the biggest conservative achievement in 40+ years and he made it possible. Making it possible to outlaw abortion is not a freemason or "do as thou wilst" thing to do.
I concede that he has at least mentioned him then, however saying Jesus is more famous than him isn’t an endorsement.
It doesn’t mean that Trump is Christian or a follower. He could have said Karl Marx was more famous than him but would that mean he was endorsing Marx?
Beyoncé is more famous than me but I don’t care about her or her music.
He’s alluding to it without saying it, for the benefit of the crowd, knowing that they will interpret it as such but these people are masters of equivocation and of deceptive language.
Is there anything explicit where Trump acknowledges Jesus as the son of God or states that he is Christian?
He definitely embraces Q but Q says it is the US military (and therefore not Jesus) that is the saviour of humanity.
Trump has stated he is Christian multiple times but like you I am now hesitant on that term because it means "little Messiah", it is not explicitly one that points to Jesus.
However, this is not the first and only time he has pointed to Jesus. https://youtu.be/8QyDt8FhrMM Start at 7 min and go to about 10 min.
https://youtu.be/lf8O17J7sKA "Bringing the Lord to his fellow inmates"
https://youtu.be/DJblkdpjCik
Q is very strange sometimes. It is like a mix of viewpoints as you said. "Brave New World" has only been used ironically and even there it may have been ironic, because much of the unveiling over the past few years has been being shown the total depravity of the Cabal.
I too I am highly suspicious of anyone who claims saviorhood or someone else is a savior. I think that can only be seen by us in retrospect. But there are multiple times God used mere men as a savior. Moses was an example, so was David, so was Jonah to Nivevah.