No. The bible says they are the ones that are killed for their faith. They refused the mark and refused to bow to the new world order and lost their lives because of it.
Rev 7:4 They are the 12,000 sealed from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
7:4 "And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:"
Rev 14:1 "The Lamb and the 144,000
Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads."
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
THANK YOU! holy smokes how people don't read at all and figure this stuff out on their own is ridiculous. On top of that the 144k are jewish male virgins and people just skim right past that part LOL.
This man is a false witness. He teaches a pretribulation rapture. He teaches this abomination isn't the motb. If Christians would study to show themselves approved, they would be able to discern these wolves in sheep's clothing.
Did I say everyone else's is wrong? I stated a well studied fact and observation as it relates to this man. He teaches this abomination is not the mark, name or number. He teaches that Christians won't be here when the mark is unleashed. I stand by my words. He is leading many astray, therefore he is a false witness.
Nope. If it was in there, someone would have noticed before the 1800s. The Bible says that we will be helped through the tribulation. Therefore, believers will live through it.
I have actually. Guess what it's not there. It clearly shows there being a escape and that God's elect are not appointed to His wrath. The pretrib doctrine wasn't even apart of doctrine until the mid 1800's.
People have to use terms like typology or shadow to justify that doctrine. Or they take one or two verses to support a doctrine that none of the saints in the begining subscribed to.
Even the puritans didn't believe this lie. Reading God's word in it's totality gives a clear picture of what this doctrine represents.
No. The bible says they are the ones that are killed for their faith. They refused the mark and refused to bow to the new world order and lost their lives because of it.
Rev 7:4 They are the 12,000 sealed from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
7:4 "And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:"
Rev 14:1 "The Lamb and the 144,000 Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads."
Rev 14
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
OK now I am realizing that Clarke's "Childhood's End" is a Satanic version of Rev 14.
Huh. Never realized that before.
THANK YOU! holy smokes how people don't read at all and figure this stuff out on their own is ridiculous. On top of that the 144k are jewish male virgins and people just skim right past that part LOL.
Seems people always look for some mystical connection to God’s Word.
Well that's where this is headed in case you haven't noticed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZZ7ZFTFmR8
This man is a false witness. He teaches a pretribulation rapture. He teaches this abomination isn't the motb. If Christians would study to show themselves approved, they would be able to discern these wolves in sheep's clothing.
Be careful with the whole, “My Christianity is right, and everyone else’s is wrong”, fren.
Did I say everyone else's is wrong? I stated a well studied fact and observation as it relates to this man. He teaches this abomination is not the mark, name or number. He teaches that Christians won't be here when the mark is unleashed. I stand by my words. He is leading many astray, therefore he is a false witness.
Read the bible you will find pretrib is there.
Nope. If it was in there, someone would have noticed before the 1800s. The Bible says that we will be helped through the tribulation. Therefore, believers will live through it.
I have actually. Guess what it's not there. It clearly shows there being a escape and that God's elect are not appointed to His wrath. The pretrib doctrine wasn't even apart of doctrine until the mid 1800's.
People have to use terms like typology or shadow to justify that doctrine. Or they take one or two verses to support a doctrine that none of the saints in the begining subscribed to.
Even the puritans didn't believe this lie. Reading God's word in it's totality gives a clear picture of what this doctrine represents.