But they didn't lie about that. The live video was to establish that it was real...because the whole world was watching. Did the Russians complain that it was a "fake"? No, they did not. Because they knew better, and were also trying to get there. Everyone connected with the space program knew it was real, as they would have known.
It is a mystery to me why, in later years, a whole generation of ignoramuses has grown up, knowing nothing about the subject, and claiming it was all a "fake." As though you would know how to make it real. It really seems like it is more important to you that it be a fake, than for it to be real. What an empty view of history.
I say it’s worth it to dispel the lies for 2 reasons:
It helps people who may be otherwise at risk of falling prey to these theories.
It helps people learn how to approach this subject or any other subject with facts and reason. It teaches others to think for themselves.
(Bonus reason) more often than not I find it fun to dance intellectual circles around flat earthers/moon landing deniers and watch them get frustrated.
You didn't answer the question, because the answer is "no." The Russians had a strong competitive motive to "out" any falsehood, and they had access to the world press. Do you think we do not have access to that? Next time ask a question for understanding and not a rhetorical flourish.
So you are saying, that video that they broadcast to the world was real? They lie about some things but not others? You also assume that the entire cold war was real. The rivalry with the soviets, all. I again say bullshit. You believe the mainstream narrative. I did not believe it then and I do not believe it now. I thought we were all on the same page here. To believe all of that is to believe there is no cabal trying to move forward with the global order.
I was fighting the cold war for half of my career. It was real enough. The world is an interesting place. There is truth and there are lies. One must develop discernment to tell the difference. As an aeronautical engineer, I can say there was nothing false about the Apollo program---or, really, any of NASA's space programs.
If you take the view that everything is false, then you have thrown yourself into a mental prison from which there is no escape. By your own definition, no one is telling the truth. Not Q, and especially not you. You just think you are telling the truth, but you are lying too.
We are on the same page if we are seeking and uphold the truth. In order to do that, we have to accept that it exists. You cannot answer what I am explaining to you, so your response is not intellectual but emotional. Your cherished world view is endangered. You want a world of lies.
How do you know you were fighting the cold war though? The powers that be could certainly be working together and the men under them , without a clue, working to another end. They compartmentalize EVERYTHING.Unless you were one of the top dogs you could just as easily be fooled. The same as a bunch of NASA employees or masons who have not worked their way up. I think it is naïve to believe what they are telling you knowing what we know. But...more power to you. The famous quote being, one must develop discernment, it is very true. Are you honestly telling me, there is no way...no chance you were fooled. How were you fighting the cold war? No chance of optics? I am not trying to insult you, just curious how it is you are so ironclad certain you know what you know?
It's called hardware. And its performance. You don't build deadly hardware for a fake competition. In case you were not aware, Boeing was at one time nearly the whole supplier of strategic nuclear weapons to the Air Force.
And this is also true from being exposed to classified information use for the design and development of hardware.
Or what else was I doing? Can you tell me? How do you know that you are hit in the head by a hailstone?
But they didn't lie about that. The live video was to establish that it was real...because the whole world was watching. Did the Russians complain that it was a "fake"? No, they did not. Because they knew better, and were also trying to get there. Everyone connected with the space program knew it was real, as they would have known.
It is a mystery to me why, in later years, a whole generation of ignoramuses has grown up, knowing nothing about the subject, and claiming it was all a "fake." As though you would know how to make it real. It really seems like it is more important to you that it be a fake, than for it to be real. What an empty view of history.
You may have a point. I struggle between ignoring the witless or trying to dispel the LIES that they have been told and embrace.
I say it’s worth it to dispel the lies for 2 reasons:
It helps people who may be otherwise at risk of falling prey to these theories.
It helps people learn how to approach this subject or any other subject with facts and reason. It teaches others to think for themselves.
(Bonus reason) more often than not I find it fun to dance intellectual circles around flat earthers/moon landing deniers and watch them get frustrated.
You are right...though I can't be too tempted by (3). Leads to sloppy work. Best to be as clinical as possible.
Do you think the US government would tell us anything coming out of the Soviet Union?
You didn't answer the question, because the answer is "no." The Russians had a strong competitive motive to "out" any falsehood, and they had access to the world press. Do you think we do not have access to that? Next time ask a question for understanding and not a rhetorical flourish.
So you are saying, that video that they broadcast to the world was real? They lie about some things but not others? You also assume that the entire cold war was real. The rivalry with the soviets, all. I again say bullshit. You believe the mainstream narrative. I did not believe it then and I do not believe it now. I thought we were all on the same page here. To believe all of that is to believe there is no cabal trying to move forward with the global order.
I was fighting the cold war for half of my career. It was real enough. The world is an interesting place. There is truth and there are lies. One must develop discernment to tell the difference. As an aeronautical engineer, I can say there was nothing false about the Apollo program---or, really, any of NASA's space programs.
If you take the view that everything is false, then you have thrown yourself into a mental prison from which there is no escape. By your own definition, no one is telling the truth. Not Q, and especially not you. You just think you are telling the truth, but you are lying too.
We are on the same page if we are seeking and uphold the truth. In order to do that, we have to accept that it exists. You cannot answer what I am explaining to you, so your response is not intellectual but emotional. Your cherished world view is endangered. You want a world of lies.
How do you know you were fighting the cold war though? The powers that be could certainly be working together and the men under them , without a clue, working to another end. They compartmentalize EVERYTHING.Unless you were one of the top dogs you could just as easily be fooled. The same as a bunch of NASA employees or masons who have not worked their way up. I think it is naïve to believe what they are telling you knowing what we know. But...more power to you. The famous quote being, one must develop discernment, it is very true. Are you honestly telling me, there is no way...no chance you were fooled. How were you fighting the cold war? No chance of optics? I am not trying to insult you, just curious how it is you are so ironclad certain you know what you know?
It's called hardware. And its performance. You don't build deadly hardware for a fake competition. In case you were not aware, Boeing was at one time nearly the whole supplier of strategic nuclear weapons to the Air Force.
And this is also true from being exposed to classified information use for the design and development of hardware.
Or what else was I doing? Can you tell me? How do you know that you are hit in the head by a hailstone?