16 July 2018 / Trump - Putin Press Conference - Helsinki Finland
https://youtu.be/cwxqOoIyWm0?t=1481 (timestamp / transcript below)
REPORTER (Jeff Mason from Reuters): For President Putin if I could follow up as well. Why should Americans and why should President Trump believe your statement that Russia did not intervene in the 2016 election given the evidence that US Intelligence agencies have provided? Will you consider extraditing the 12 Russian officials that were indicted last week by a US Grand jury.
TRUMP: Well I’m going to let the president answer the second part of that question.
As you know, the concept of that came up perhaps a little before, but it came out as a reason why the Democrats lost an election, which frankly, they should have been able to win, because the electoral college is much more advantageous for Democrats, as you know, than it is to Republicans. We won the electoral college by a lot. 306 to 223, I believe. That was a well-fought battle. We did a great job.
Frankly, I’m going to let the president speak to the second part of your question. But, just to say it one time again and I say it all the time, there was no collusion. I didn’t know the president. There was nobody to colluded with. There was no collusion with the campaign. Every time you hear all of these 12 and 14 — it’s stuff that has nothing to do — and frankly, they admit, these are not people involved in the campaign. But to the average reader out there, they are saying, well maybe that does. It doesn’t. Even the people involved, some perhaps told mis(sed) stories. In one case the FBI said there was no lie. There was no lie. Somebody else said there was. We ran a brilliant campaign. And that’s why I’m president. Thank you.
PUTIN: As to who is to be believed, who is not to be believed: you can trust no one. Where did you get this idea that President Trump trusts me or I trust him? He defends the interests of the United States of America and I do defend the interests of the Russian Federation. We do have interests that are common. We are looking for points of contact.
There are issues where our postures diverge and we are looking for ways to reconcile our differences, how to make our effort more meaningful. We should not proceed from the immediate political interests that guide certain political powers in our countries. We should be guided by facts. Could you name a single fact that would definitively prove the collusion? This is utter nonsense — just like the president recently mentioned. Yes, the public at large in the United States had a certain perceived opinion of the candidates during the campaign. But there’s nothing particularly extraordinary about it. That’s usual thing.
President Trump, when he was a candidate, he mentioned the need to restore the Russia/US relationship and it’s clear that certain parts of American society felt sympathetic about it and different people could express their sympathy in different ways. Isn’t that natural? Isn’t it natural to be sympathetic towards a person who is willing to restore the relationship with our country, who wants to work with us?
We heard the accusations about it. As far as I know, this company hired American lawyers and the accusations doesn’t have a fighting chance in the American courts. There’s no evidence when it comes to the actual facts. So we have to be guided by facts, not by rumors.
Now, let’s get back to the issue of this 12 alleged intelligence officers of Russia. I don’t know the full extent of the situation. But President Trump mentioned this issue. I will look into it.
So far, I can say the following. Things that are off the top of my head. We have an existing agreement between the United States of America and the Russian Federation, an existing treaty that dates back to 1999. The mutual assistance on criminal cases. This treaty is in full effect. It works quite efficiently. On average, we initiate about 100, 150 criminal cases upon request from foreign states.
For instance, the last year, there was one extradition case upon the request sent by the United States. This treaty has specific legal procedures we can offer. The appropriate commission headed by Special Attorney Mueller, he can use this treaty as a solid foundation and send a formal, official request to us so that we could interrogate, hold questioning of these individuals who he believes are privy to some crimes. Our enforcement are perfectly able to do this questioning and send the appropriate materials to the United States. Moreover, we can meet you halfway. We can make another step. We can actually permit representatives of the United States, including the members of this very commission headed by Mr. Mueller, we can let them into the country. They can be present at questioning.
In this case, there’s another condition. This kind of effort should be mutual one. Then we would expect that the Americans would reciprocate. They would question officials, including the officers of law enforcement and intelligence services of the United States whom we believe have something to do with illegal actions on the territory of Russia. And we have to request the presence of our law enforcement.
For instance, we can bring up Mr. Browder in this particular case. Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over $1.5 billion in Russia. They never paid any taxes. Neither in Russia nor in the United States. Yet, the money escapes the country. They were transferred to the United States. They sent huge amount of money, $400 million as a contribution to the campaign of Hillary Clinton. Well, that’s their personal case. It might have been legal, the contribution itself. But the way the money was earned was illegal. We have solid reason to believe that some intelligence officers, guided these transactions. So we have an interest of questioning them. That could be a first step. We can extend also it. Options abound. They all can be found in an appropriate legal framework.
Full transcript...
https://www.vox.com/2018/7/16/17576956/transcript-putin-trump-russia-helsinki-press-conference
Peekaboo...
I see you.
https://jesustaught.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/trumpajoke.jpg?w=660
18 July 2018 Russia seeks charges against top US officials / Interfax
The Prosecutor General’s Office of Russia named the names of employees of special services and US officials suspected of involvement in the illegal activities of the founder of the British Hermitage Fund William Browder, reports Interfax . Among them was the former US ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, to whom Russian investigators want to ask a number of questions. ...
https://youtu.be/pF8j-j8EKXU?t=127 (timestamp)
Putin Drops Bomb on Mueller: Russia Seeks Charges Against Obama-Era U.S. Ambassador & U.S. Intel Agents Allegedly Linked to Browder
The Prosecutor General’s Office of Russia named the names of employees of special services and US officials suspected of involvement in the illegal activities of the founder of the British Hermitage Fund William Browder, reports Interfax . Among them was the former US ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, to whom Russian investigators want to ask a number of questions.
Asked whether the list was exhaustive, Kurennoy replied: “Of course not.” “There are quite a large number of people who should be questioned with the participation of Russian investigators: they are people from among special services, congressmen, US senators, their assistants, various civil servants,” Kurennoy said. According to him, special services of states can enter this list. “For example, we would very much like to talk with Christopher Steele.” Also not an unknown person is an agent of the British Mi-6, for a long period of time he had contacts with a group of lobbyists of the Magnitsky Act, and interestingly, it was through this person that an investigation was initiated by the special prosecutor Miiller who everyone is known under the name “Trump file”, – added the head of the Office of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Alexander Kurennoy.
Recall, on Monday at a press conference in Helsinki, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russian law enforcement officers can interrogate accused of interfering in US elections at the request of the United States and send a response to Washington. At the same time, he added, the Russian side in that case would expect from the American “that they interrogate those representatives of the US special services whom Moscow suspects of illegal actions on the territory of the Russian Federation, in the presence of Russian investigators.”
Vladimir Putin mentioned the so-called case of Hermitage Capital, a fund headed by financier William Browder, convicted in Russia of fraud.
Link to full article
In a case tangential to the investigation of Bill Browder, here is the DHS lapdog special agent Todd Hyman sitting for a deposition in 2014:
03 March 2014 Todd Hyman, Special Agent DHS / Deposition
https://youtu.be/fT1be9zeF8o (2 min, 20 sec)
Partial transcript Todd Hyman deposition (includes clips in video above)
https://jaccuse.news/Hyman-deposition.pdf
Full transcript Todd Hyman Deposition (you need a scribid account (pay) to view (still searching for copy not behind a pay wall).
https://www.scribd.com/document/409994885/DHS-Investigator-Todd-Hyman-Deposition-in-Prevezon-case#
Full docket U.S. v Prevezon Holdings
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4352673/united-states-v-prevezon-holdings-ltd/?page=4
And Bill Browder's full deposition in that same case (its 6 hours long --- but believe me, you'll know all you need to know in the first few minutes:
15 April 2015 Browder Deposition (dodged process servers for two years)
https://youtu.be/kpy9uidJi80 (watch until you gag)
Full transcript
https://jimmysllama.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Browder-Deposition-04-15-2015.pdf
- You will hear one of Browder's lawyers ask to know who is listening remotely to the deposition. One of the U.S. government attorney responds, one of the attorneys listening in is Natalia Veselnitskaya (a white hat).
09 June 2016 Don Trump Jr. meeting in Trump Tower with Natalia Veselnitskaya
A meeting took place at Trump Tower in New York City on June 9, 2016, between three senior members of the 2016 Trump campaign – Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort – and at least five other people, including Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. The meeting was arranged by publicist and long-time Trump acquaintance Rob Goldstone on behalf of his client, Russian singer-songwriter Emin Agalarov.[1] The meeting was first disclosed to U.S. government officials in April 2017, when Kushner filed a revised version of his security clearance form.
Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer best known in the United States for lobbying against the Magnitsky Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower_meeting
.. March 2010 Chrisopher Steele arranged for Bill Browder to meet with Jonathan WIner in Washinton, DC, who further vectored Browder to Sen. Ben Cardin and Sen. John McCain. The rest is Magnitsly Act (Russia Sanctions - Act I) history and another long post.
.. October 2016 Winer was Steele's conduit to infect the State Department with the Steele Dossier. DOJ IG was unable to question Winer in his investigation of FBI FISA Court submissions.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/10/jonathan-winer-christopher-steele-state-department-business/
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave..."
Over and over and over again...
You'd think they'd get better at it.
Now, go back and put the events in chronological order.
Making any more sense yet?
Very interesting, fren, thanks for this dig. Much to process.
So its starting to make sense why the Cabal was constantly freaking out about the "Trump Tower meeting", also makes sense why Trump Tower meeting was supposedly discussing adoption of Russian kids (Magnitsky Act - you said "Russian Sanctions Act", but I vaguely remember long ago that it had a clause about adaptions, and I assumed it had to do with stopping child trafficking from Russia)
And why am I not surprised Noname is involved in this.
Forgot to answer your question about adoptions. When the Magnitsky Act was passed, Putin halted all adoptions of Russian children by Americans, and as similar acts were passed in other, mostly European countries, he cut off adoptions there as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dima_Yakovlev_Law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitsky_Act#Actions_by_the_Russian_government
There is a great backstory (part fact, part conjecture) to the Trump Tower meeting. If you're interested I'll put it on the list of topics to post about.
Thanks, I am gonna watch the movie tomorrow.
Please do, I am most interested!
I would be interested for you to post more on the backstory.
Thank you for your YUGE research for this post! 👏
When I post about the Trump Tower meeting I will be sure to notify you and u/bubble_bursts in the post text by username so don't worry that you might miss it.
Made a notation on my white board in red marker. 😎
Cheers
Thank you Chaos! You sound organized! It good to be annotated in red! 😸
Thanks!
My bad... change
The rest is Magnitsly Act (Russia Sanctions - Act I) history and another long post.
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The rest is Magnitsky Act history aka Russia Sanctions - Act I.
Russia Sanctions - Act II (Trump campaign and election) includes the public poisoning of the well of US Russia relations by the following plot developments during the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax narrative storyline:
29 December 2016 - 35 Russians declared Persona Non Grata...
Given 3 days to leave the country...
2 Diplomatic facilities closed
Blaming Russia for hacking the DNC
Blaming Russia for hacking the 2016 election
Claiming the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to manipulate voters
The Logan Act frame of Gen Flynn over the Kislyak phone call
Norman_F_Dixon did yoeman's work on the finer details of the 16 July 2018 Trump Putin Press Conference and the MSM / Political (McCain and Cardin) apoplexy over the Browder subtext. Their attempt to spin the narrative to draw attention away from Puitn dropping the Browder MOAB was classic.
See link for exhaustive description.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12j08ThCvy/birthday-drop-doitq-filename--di/
Browder is getting raked over the coals in Europe, they are on to him and his Human Rights scam con.
You would probably be interested in watching The Magnitsky Act: Behind the scenes. This is an incredibly well made and powerful expose of Bill Browder.
Banned internationally, Devin Nunes (Kash Patel) organized a showing of The Magnitsky Act: Behind The Scenes in Washington, DC at the Newseum for Republican members of Congress. What the attendees learned is how easy it is to pull the wool over their eyes both individually and as collective legislative body. A lot of firebrands were lit that day... Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz... making even more sense now?
Go to https://magnitskyact.com/ for a description of and distribution history since making the film. If interested I recommend viewing. It will shed a lot of light on a lot hidden history directly relevant to comprehending the absolute rot at the core of our government and of other governments.
The link above first goes to the former documentary film hosting site where the film finally was able to stay up and available over the internet, then you navigate to the new hosting site. If you (gotta pay to watch) do watch it, Be sure to select the one with English subtitles (my German was not up to par)... the subtitles are only used in portions where an interview is conducted in either Russian or German, but the narration and about 80% of the film is in English. The DVDs for sale are not yet available in the format for North America.
No Name was a piece of shit traitor who offered aid and comfort to the enemy. May his reputation be forever stained by his actions.
In my search for the transcript of the full 03 March 2014 DHS Special Agent Todd Hyman Deposition, I hit on (and posted in the post text above) a link to the full docket of
United States v. Prevezon Holdings Ltd. (1:13-cv-06326)
of which the Todd Hyman deposition is a part.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4352673/united-states-v-prevezon-holdings-ltd/?page=4
I am well versed and in it and as prepared as I think I am... its pretty much like this...
https://youtu.be/VjxH6tYUp34?t=423
What's up with that?
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.417238/gov.uscourts.nysd.417238.422.20.pdf
The man Bill Browder left out to dry, Sergey Magnitsky, was born in Odessa, Ukraine.
https://youtu.be/Otm4RusESNU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_Capital
When Mitt Romney Came To Town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92i6rk0LT7Y (28 minutes)
Browder was just a puppet, playing the role of Christopher Steele by seeding false data into the US legal system, which is also complicit the entire time in accepting the faked data and bringing a lawsuit against Prevezon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preet_Bharara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preet_Bharara#Russian_money_laundering_fraud
It was all just more deep state smoke and mirror manipulation of the legal system to cover its own crimes - as was Browder feeding faked information to Sen. Cardin and Sen. McCain who sponsored and spearheaded passage of The Magnitsky Act with the sole aim of sanctioning select Russian officials investigating Browder and his Russian, American, and Israeli criminal syndicate bosses..
Prevezon went to court just in order to force Browder into a deposition (6 hours, linked again below and already above in the post text) exposing the entire Sergey Magnitsky narrative a fraud and, in effect, a scam and a cover up of the financial crimes Browder was the front man and cut out for..
What looked like a financial loss for Prevezon in settling the case (see link below), which all the while was acting as a second in the legal duel between the international criminal syndicate Bill Browder is a front man and patsy for and the Russian government under President Putin. It was and is a huge win in the Lawfare Wars.
15 April 2015 Browder Deposition (dodged process servers for two years)
https://youtu.be/kpy9uidJi80 (6+ hours)
Full transcript https://jimmysllama.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Browder-Deposition-04-15-2015.pdf
Prevezon Settlement Article
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-v-prevezon-case-settlement-russia-money-laundering-2017-5?op=1
Whenever I see this, it means they are setting everything up to pop open at the right time (which I believe is now). Same with Uranium One as well, case against CF and so many other proceedings.
I believe they will all pop open rapidly one after another as we get to / are at precipice.
I have read W&P. Didn't like it. Couldnt keep the names straight, but that was not the problem. Even for the person I was at that time, very much asleep, I could smell that it as a narrative without being able to put my finger on it.
I am going on a tangent now. I have always been more of a Dostoevsky guy myself. Just recently I was talking to my dad about Crime and Punishment vs War and Peace and it came to Dostoevsky vs Tolstoy (I remember he was a great Tolstoy fan) and it occurred to me that Tolstoy was propped up the mainstream because he was subtly creating the narratives they wanted and I mentioned it to him, and surprisingly he was not dismissive. I have been slowly educating him about narradigms, and I think very slowly he is understanding how this works.