16 July 2018 / Trump - Putin Press Conference - Helsinki Finland
https://youtu.be/cwxqOoIyWm0?t=1481 (timestamp / transcript below)
REPORTER (Jeff Mason from Reuters): For President Putin if I could follow up as well. Why should Americans and why should President Trump believe your statement that Russia did not intervene in the 2016 election given the evidence that US Intelligence agencies have provided? Will you consider extraditing the 12 Russian officials that were indicted last week by a US Grand jury.
TRUMP: Well I’m going to let the president answer the second part of that question.
As you know, the concept of that came up perhaps a little before, but it came out as a reason why the Democrats lost an election, which frankly, they should have been able to win, because the electoral college is much more advantageous for Democrats, as you know, than it is to Republicans. We won the electoral college by a lot. 306 to 223, I believe. That was a well-fought battle. We did a great job.
Frankly, I’m going to let the president speak to the second part of your question. But, just to say it one time again and I say it all the time, there was no collusion. I didn’t know the president. There was nobody to colluded with. There was no collusion with the campaign. Every time you hear all of these 12 and 14 — it’s stuff that has nothing to do — and frankly, they admit, these are not people involved in the campaign. But to the average reader out there, they are saying, well maybe that does. It doesn’t. Even the people involved, some perhaps told mis(sed) stories. In one case the FBI said there was no lie. There was no lie. Somebody else said there was. We ran a brilliant campaign. And that’s why I’m president. Thank you.
PUTIN: As to who is to be believed, who is not to be believed: you can trust no one. Where did you get this idea that President Trump trusts me or I trust him? He defends the interests of the United States of America and I do defend the interests of the Russian Federation. We do have interests that are common. We are looking for points of contact.
There are issues where our postures diverge and we are looking for ways to reconcile our differences, how to make our effort more meaningful. We should not proceed from the immediate political interests that guide certain political powers in our countries. We should be guided by facts. Could you name a single fact that would definitively prove the collusion? This is utter nonsense — just like the president recently mentioned. Yes, the public at large in the United States had a certain perceived opinion of the candidates during the campaign. But there’s nothing particularly extraordinary about it. That’s usual thing.
President Trump, when he was a candidate, he mentioned the need to restore the Russia/US relationship and it’s clear that certain parts of American society felt sympathetic about it and different people could express their sympathy in different ways. Isn’t that natural? Isn’t it natural to be sympathetic towards a person who is willing to restore the relationship with our country, who wants to work with us?
We heard the accusations about it. As far as I know, this company hired American lawyers and the accusations doesn’t have a fighting chance in the American courts. There’s no evidence when it comes to the actual facts. So we have to be guided by facts, not by rumors.
Now, let’s get back to the issue of this 12 alleged intelligence officers of Russia. I don’t know the full extent of the situation. But President Trump mentioned this issue. I will look into it.
So far, I can say the following. Things that are off the top of my head. We have an existing agreement between the United States of America and the Russian Federation, an existing treaty that dates back to 1999. The mutual assistance on criminal cases. This treaty is in full effect. It works quite efficiently. On average, we initiate about 100, 150 criminal cases upon request from foreign states.
For instance, the last year, there was one extradition case upon the request sent by the United States. This treaty has specific legal procedures we can offer. The appropriate commission headed by Special Attorney Mueller, he can use this treaty as a solid foundation and send a formal, official request to us so that we could interrogate, hold questioning of these individuals who he believes are privy to some crimes. Our enforcement are perfectly able to do this questioning and send the appropriate materials to the United States. Moreover, we can meet you halfway. We can make another step. We can actually permit representatives of the United States, including the members of this very commission headed by Mr. Mueller, we can let them into the country. They can be present at questioning.
In this case, there’s another condition. This kind of effort should be mutual one. Then we would expect that the Americans would reciprocate. They would question officials, including the officers of law enforcement and intelligence services of the United States whom we believe have something to do with illegal actions on the territory of Russia. And we have to request the presence of our law enforcement.
For instance, we can bring up Mr. Browder in this particular case. Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over $1.5 billion in Russia. They never paid any taxes. Neither in Russia nor in the United States. Yet, the money escapes the country. They were transferred to the United States. They sent huge amount of money, $400 million as a contribution to the campaign of Hillary Clinton. Well, that’s their personal case. It might have been legal, the contribution itself. But the way the money was earned was illegal. We have solid reason to believe that some intelligence officers, guided these transactions. So we have an interest of questioning them. That could be a first step. We can extend also it. Options abound. They all can be found in an appropriate legal framework.
Full transcript...
https://www.vox.com/2018/7/16/17576956/transcript-putin-trump-russia-helsinki-press-conference
Peekaboo...
I see you.
https://jesustaught.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/trumpajoke.jpg?w=660
18 July 2018 Russia seeks charges against top US officials / Interfax
The Prosecutor General’s Office of Russia named the names of employees of special services and US officials suspected of involvement in the illegal activities of the founder of the British Hermitage Fund William Browder, reports Interfax . Among them was the former US ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, to whom Russian investigators want to ask a number of questions. ...
https://youtu.be/pF8j-j8EKXU?t=127 (timestamp)
Putin Drops Bomb on Mueller: Russia Seeks Charges Against Obama-Era U.S. Ambassador & U.S. Intel Agents Allegedly Linked to Browder
The Prosecutor General’s Office of Russia named the names of employees of special services and US officials suspected of involvement in the illegal activities of the founder of the British Hermitage Fund William Browder, reports Interfax . Among them was the former US ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, to whom Russian investigators want to ask a number of questions.
Asked whether the list was exhaustive, Kurennoy replied: “Of course not.” “There are quite a large number of people who should be questioned with the participation of Russian investigators: they are people from among special services, congressmen, US senators, their assistants, various civil servants,” Kurennoy said. According to him, special services of states can enter this list. “For example, we would very much like to talk with Christopher Steele.” Also not an unknown person is an agent of the British Mi-6, for a long period of time he had contacts with a group of lobbyists of the Magnitsky Act, and interestingly, it was through this person that an investigation was initiated by the special prosecutor Miiller who everyone is known under the name “Trump file”, – added the head of the Office of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Alexander Kurennoy.
Recall, on Monday at a press conference in Helsinki, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russian law enforcement officers can interrogate accused of interfering in US elections at the request of the United States and send a response to Washington. At the same time, he added, the Russian side in that case would expect from the American “that they interrogate those representatives of the US special services whom Moscow suspects of illegal actions on the territory of the Russian Federation, in the presence of Russian investigators.”
Vladimir Putin mentioned the so-called case of Hermitage Capital, a fund headed by financier William Browder, convicted in Russia of fraud.
Link to full article
In a case tangential to the investigation of Bill Browder, here is the DHS lapdog special agent Todd Hyman sitting for a deposition in 2014:
03 March 2014 Todd Hyman, Special Agent DHS / Deposition
https://youtu.be/fT1be9zeF8o (2 min, 20 sec)
Partial transcript Todd Hyman deposition (includes clips in video above)
https://jaccuse.news/Hyman-deposition.pdf
Full transcript Todd Hyman Deposition (you need a scribid account (pay) to view (still searching for copy not behind a pay wall).
https://www.scribd.com/document/409994885/DHS-Investigator-Todd-Hyman-Deposition-in-Prevezon-case#
Full docket U.S. v Prevezon Holdings
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4352673/united-states-v-prevezon-holdings-ltd/?page=4
And Bill Browder's full deposition in that same case (its 6 hours long --- but believe me, you'll know all you need to know in the first few minutes:
15 April 2015 Browder Deposition (dodged process servers for two years)
https://youtu.be/kpy9uidJi80 (watch until you gag)
Full transcript
https://jimmysllama.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Browder-Deposition-04-15-2015.pdf
- You will hear one of Browder's lawyers ask to know who is listening remotely to the deposition. One of the U.S. government attorney responds, one of the attorneys listening in is Natalia Veselnitskaya (a white hat).
09 June 2016 Don Trump Jr. meeting in Trump Tower with Natalia Veselnitskaya
A meeting took place at Trump Tower in New York City on June 9, 2016, between three senior members of the 2016 Trump campaign – Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort – and at least five other people, including Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. The meeting was arranged by publicist and long-time Trump acquaintance Rob Goldstone on behalf of his client, Russian singer-songwriter Emin Agalarov.[1] The meeting was first disclosed to U.S. government officials in April 2017, when Kushner filed a revised version of his security clearance form.
Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer best known in the United States for lobbying against the Magnitsky Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower_meeting
.. March 2010 Chrisopher Steele arranged for Bill Browder to meet with Jonathan WIner in Washinton, DC, who further vectored Browder to Sen. Ben Cardin and Sen. John McCain. The rest is Magnitsly Act (Russia Sanctions - Act I) history and another long post.
.. October 2016 Winer was Steele's conduit to infect the State Department with the Steele Dossier. DOJ IG was unable to question Winer in his investigation of FBI FISA Court submissions.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/10/jonathan-winer-christopher-steele-state-department-business/
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave..."
Over and over and over again...
You'd think they'd get better at it.
Now, go back and put the events in chronological order.
Making any more sense yet?
Want to be honest with you, and with others, Saline. This took about 45 minutes to compose. It only took 45 minutes because I have been "red-pilled" on the issue of Bill Browder since his first book, Red Notice, came out in 2015. I have been closely monitoring Bill Browder online and in print ever since. For this reason, (and that I have been archiving the documentation over the years) you can easily see that it was simply a matter of linking to a few items and some copy/paste to construct the post above.
However, it was not until Q did I have either the eyes to see and the ears to hear, nor the discipline to stay focused on this issue to be able to parse the narrative spin "in real time" on this subject. I have used what Q has taught me to do the same in other areas outside my personal area of expertise and on a myriad of other issues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder#Books_about_experiences_in_Russia
This senate committee hearing in 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder#2017_testimony_to_the_U.S._Senate_Judiciary_Committee
is one of the most dramatic and paradigm shattering events I have ever witnessed.
It figures prominently in Bill Browder's latest book
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Freezing-Order/Bill-Browder/9781982153281
If (when) you watch both days of this hearing (not linking now - will link when I get to the point of posting on this two day hearing, Browder only spoke on the second day - but the first day, and some arcane Senate rules of procedure are important to what occurred on day two - believe me - if you did not know what was going on "Behind The Scenes" it was like watching paint dry during a monsoon) and do not know that every single word that comes out of Bill Browder's mouth about Sergey Magnitsky and The Magnitsky Act is a bald-faced lie, it just seems like another boring Senate committee meeting like every other boring Senate committee meeting.
For me, this is what came out that meeting.
Senator Chuck Grassley is my personal hero.
Senator Lindsey Graham wears a ten-gallon white hat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitsky_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Grassley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey_Graham
Check out this one little anomaly connected to the 18 June 2018 Trump - Putin press conference where Putin dropped Bill Browder's name (and you must accept the fact that Browder is not Putin's target here, it is the criminal syndicate that Browder fronts for) copy pasted (Dixon comment) from the thread in post link below:
16 July 2018 Joint Press Conference Putin and Trump, Helsinki, Finland.
Trump responding to reporters question:
"As to who do I trust, they asked, Russia or our "Intelligence" from the Obama era, meaning people like Comey, ..." (full answer in link to clip below)
Here are some responses to the statement above.
Anderson Cooper, on that day, reading John McCain's reaction:
https://youtu.be/LrAPik6xkUI (listen to Cooper clutch his pearls for as long as you can)
John McCain, on that day, on twitter :
https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/1018919182904299520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
John McCain, on that day, full statement:
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/07/16/john-mccain-rips-trump-putin-presser-pathetic-disgraceful-erratic-painful/
Ben Cardin, on that day, full statement:
https://www.cardin.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/cardin-calls-trump-putin-summit-foreign-trip-detrimental-to-us-national-security-interests-values
Putin and Trump had discussed "cooperation" on Browder in their meeting - Putin was the designated name dropper.
Boom! Shot over the bow.
Senators John McCain and Ben Cardin go "ballistic" over the "attack by Trump" against members of the Intelligence Community and Trump is carrying Putin's water.
Senator John McCain and Senator Ben Cardin were the Republican and Democrat sponsors, respectively, of The Magnitsky Act.
Boom!
They are firing right back with the threat to turn up the heat if there is any exposure of the scam / protection racket (by investigating and exposing Browder) The Magnitsky Act legalizes.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12j08ThCvy/birthday-drop-doitq-filename--di/
Going to stop. Could write a book about that 2017 senate committee hearing and the 2018 Trump - Putin summit and press conference in Helsinki.
Once you pull back the curtain... then you understand what Trump really means when he points to the cameras at his rallies and calls the people behind them (not the actual camera man, although - that has been done) assassins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Shah_Massoud
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Shah_Massoud#Assassination
Watch the portion of the clip again when the Reuters correspondent asks his question of Trump and Putin. Pay attention to how Trump passes off to Putin so Putin can pull the cord to fire that shot across the bow.
Research Reuters all the way back to Cecil Rhodes.
It will all start to make sense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Rhodes
Serious as a heart attack.
Think of Senator Graham as a triple agent and some of the things he says and does make perfect sense.
White hat, all the way.
Graham. Kavanaugh. Questioning. US in state of war since Sept 14, 2001... 09/14/2001. 9+1+4+2+1=17.
Yowza!