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Russia to evacuate Kherson as frontlines approach the city? (www.theguardian.com)
posted 3 years ago by StormzAComing 3 years ago by StormzAComing +11 / -0
Russia announces Kherson evacuation, raising fears city will become frontline
Deputy PM says residents will be helped to move away from southern Ukrainian region partly occupied by invaders
www.theguardian.com
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– SmolPedeBestPede 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Most likely this means all the children living in the tunnels under Kherson have been saved. Great job by the Russian special forces on that.

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– Tewdryg 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

No mentioning of it in Russian media. However, Russia is safeguarding civilians by moving them out of harms way for when the Russian offensive starts. This is standard practice the Russian government has used from the beginning of this ordeal.

The Guardian is a propaganda rag that needs to be vetted for anything regarding Russia.

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– StormzAComing [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I know, just putting it here so it can critiqued and memed.

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– SmokeAndMirrors 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Aged like milk

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– Tewdryg 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The Dnieper river is big and wide. It provides logistical problems for Russia on the west bank. This area is open steppe country. Russia wisely uses the east bank as the demarcation line for defense. Three things happen as a result of Russia's move. First, recognize the goal is to win the war. Never fight a battle when it risks losing a large number of personnel and equipment. Battles need to be fought strategically and this sometimes means withdrawing from territory that provides too much risk for supplies and personnel. The west bank of the Dnieper river is such a place. The UkoNazis have been planning an offensive in the region. Many of the troops have been moved here. In Response, Russia wisely is avoiding a bloody conflict to which military personnel would be lost and reestablished a fairly impenetratable defense on the east bank of the Dnieper River. The media response will be bad for Russia publicity wise. However, the strategy is actually wise because now many of these troops can be redeployed in the Donetsk and Luhansk region. As a result, the Uko forces will decouple their offensive in the Kherson region. No battle will occur there. Russia simply withdraws temporarily.

The objective is to reinforce the territory already controlled with military personnel. The Russian offensive will occur in the Donesk and Luhansk regions because the logistics there is so much easier for Russia to supply with armaments. Once the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts are 'filled' out and the remaining territory taken, the focus will turn to the Zaporizhzhia Oblast and a return to the Kherson Oblast. In the end, the long term objective is sound. However, the short-term media response will be bad for Russia and will only encourage the West and NATO.

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– Tewdryg 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You do know how logistics and strategic battle engagement works, no? Just watch how this unfolds for Russia. The plan is to secure the Oblasts already annexed. The Dnieper river makes the best defensive line in all of Ukraine. It makes perfect sense for the Russians to do this. The Russians will return to Kherson once Donetsk and Luhansk are filled out and secured.

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– Tewdryg 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You stated this. I never did. Have you ever looked at a Ukraine map? If you did, you'd answer your own statement. It appears you have very little understanding of warfare.

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– WestCelt 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Doesn't sound good for Russkis' hope this is a minor setback!

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– StormzAComing [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Read u/Tewdryg comment.

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– WestCelt 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Clearing the civilians first.... good, good.

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– Tewdryg 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Here is the reason why Russia has made this move. The Dnieper river is big and wide. It provides logistical problems for Russia on the west bank. This area west of the river is open steppe country. Russia is wisely uses the east bank as the demarcation line for defense.

Three influential effects will happen as a result of Russia's move. First, recognize the goal is to win the war. Never fight a battle when it risks losing a large number of personnel and equipment. Battles need to be fought strategically and this sometimes means withdrawing from territory that provides too much risk for supplies and personnel and repositioning them to other areas. The west bank of the Dnieper river poses such a problematic strategy.

The UkoNazis have been planning an offensive in the region. Many of their troops have been moved here readying for their planned Kherson offensive. In response, Russia wisely is avoiding a bloody conflict to which military personnel would be lost and instead reestablished a fairly impenetrable defense on the east bank of the Dnieper River. This move avoids the Russian military on the west bank from being cut off from supplies and reinforcements. The logistics for adequately supplying the west bank Russian military is very difficult.

The 2nd influential effect will be the immediate consequence of the media response being bad for Russia publicity wise. However, the 3rd influential effect will be this strategy is actually very wise for the longer term both in strategy and PR because the action of withdrawing Russian troops from the west bank will allow many of these troops to be redeployed in the Donetsk and Luhansk region. As a result, the Uko forces will decouple their offensive in the Kherson region. No battle will occur there. Russia simply withdraws temporarily.

The objective is to reinforce the territory already controlled with military personnel. The Russian offensive will occur in the Donesk and Luhansk regions because the logistics there is so much easier for Russia to supply with armaments. Once the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts are 'filled' out and the remaining territory taken, the focus will turn to the Zaporizhzhia Oblast and a return to the Kherson Oblast. In the end, the long term objective is sound. However, the short-term media response will be bad for Russia and will only encourage the West and NATO.

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