Fuck off, kids don't need to be slapped into submission to turn out right.
If your parents needed to slap you because you didn't know right from wrong, maybe you should learn where you picked up the behavior that got you spanked.
Right because kids know right from wrong before they know right from wrong.
What in your estimation gives gravity to wrong? We know what gives "right" its meaning but what gives "wrong" it's meaning? Words, a talking to? Na. Words and a talking to are simply the warning sign. If one doesn't heed the warning sign than one does not get another warning sign. What happens in the real world is that one carelessly runs into oncoming traffic. If one were to be lucky enough to survive that screw up than consequences of that screw up have to follow. You don't get to walk life without some sort of consequence to bad actions even if one escapes death.
Part of parenting and yes part of being a good parent (IMO) is loving and part of loving is dealing out punishment even when it also hurts oneself to do so. One doesn't get to "parent" the easy way. Parents don't get to play with kids, take them on vacation, ball games and teach them to learn but then delegate the punishment to "life" or for the world to teach ones kids the lessons that should have been taught by the parent. Parents don't get to simply reap the rewards of the good times without also dealing with the agony of punishing our kids when it needs to be done.
With every spanking a parent gives it not only teaches the lesson but also indirectly teaches the kid that life is sometimes not fun but the job has to be done regardless of one's wants. Spanking is a purely selfless act. It ONLY benefits the child. The parent gets no future rewards for such an action. In fact the parent has to live with that decision in agony for ever. The parent caused pain to someone they love more than their own life. Do you realize, I mean really understand the gravity of such action? Parents take on the burden with no return other than the fact our agony will help the very thing we love more than life itself.
You are not only wrong but lack depth of thought and consequence. Your thoughts and words even deceive you.
If you teach your kid right from wrong then they will know right from wrong
You all can continue your "But kids won't know right from wrong unless you give them pain!!!" but that is factually, and psychologically untrue.
You are all saying that it is simply the correct way, and it is not.
And you harken that parents do it from a place of love, but no parent where it comes from love, talks about it with glee, and like it is something that must be done.
It is not a selfless act. Parents slap their kids as the easy way to teach them right from wrong, instead of putting the effort in the hard way, being a good example for your child in all situations, never letting your bad side show, never letting your temper flare.
The future reward, is the parents get to go around and say "My kid is good because we got whoopings when we were younger, and they got whoppings too." The reward for the parent, is teaching their child the same way their parents taught them, and feeling moral over it, like you.
I would love you to show me, all these commenters in "agony" after slapping their child, but the fact of the matter they aren't, and they are smug about it.
You are all simply coping with how either you were parented, or how you parent, and you people simply can not stand, anyone suggesting that slapping children isn't the correct parenting tactic.
I've been around children who grew up slapped, and children who werent, and I will tell you that it is 100% the parents and the people who raise the children and nothing else that dictates their behavior, and Yes that includes sending them to public school to be raised by "Teachers" and whatever "students" are around.
Again, think about where you picked up your bad behavior you got slapped from, was it your parents or the shitty kids at your school?
Classic. You libs always deviate from the topic. First you changed it to "beating" then you changed it to "slapping" when we were clearly speaking of spanking. Its a common tactic but I won't let you deviate. Again, spanking is the mode of punishment. Spanking.
Let's also separate physical punishment from a teaching method. One does not turn to spanking unless the situation calls for it and, in most cases, a teaching moment had already been implemented. No one claimed physical punishment was the first nor the only method of punishment. The topic and thread was about physical punishment hence the talk about said method that included spanking.
It's always you closed minded and mentally absolute smooth brained chumps who weave a larger topic into a narrow discussion then pretend the smaller subsect speaks for the entirety of your ill introduced subject. I won't pretend you understood that at the onset of you weak argument but thought I would clear that up.
You smooth brains also, to your detriment, see the world in black and white but only when its convenient. Why? Because it suits your capability. Your type do not have the ability to think in terms of depth of thought. Depth of knowledge does not exist in your world. Your taught what to think not how to think. Hence you always revert back to the "true and tried" absolutist comments and thoughts. You carelessly hurl unproven percentages that at their face are absurd like "100%". These ddon't exist in the real world and stand untested. Then when faced with being called on those accusations your type inevitably site some opinion article without a shred of verifiable data (which you will fight the urge to do now no doubt).
I'll admit to one error. My error was assuming that I didn't have to clear this crap up to your type.
But now that we're here. Human psychology is probably one of the most studied subjects in existence. It has been picked apart back to the dawn of man. Humans simply learn most efficiently and directly with immediate and sometimes painful feedback. From not eating berrys and plants that make one violently ill, not fucking with lions because they cause pain to not sticking your hand in fire. It is the very reason why humans have pain receptors. It is to alert the human that somethig is wrong and to proceed with caution. At the very moment of pain the human brain immediately focuses all senses to what caused said pain. In that moment, faster than 25 nano seconds, it records the equivalent of terabytes of data. The feeling, the smell in the air, the image and every color within that color spectrum, the human reaction to pain, all of it. All of those resources laser focused for that split second of time methodically, efficiently and with great precision taught a lesson.
It is the very process of thousands of years of human refinement and perfection that your smooth brain argument arrogantly professes to know better of with a simple black and white word salad. It's a down right joke. Not your lack of knowledge but your inability to learn and honestly what appears to infect your type, your wanting and arrogant resistance to learn. Not because you have something to learn but instead because you feel you've reached your pinnacle.
In closing. Your experience around bad parents who may have beat or "slapped" kids has no bearing on good parents ability to discipline their kids in a manner that's conducive to direct feedback to their child when he or she deviates into a situation that would cause them greater harm than a spanking on their bottom.
You can tackle your grievances and demons where they lay at the feet of bad parents who beat their children but don't pretend to know better and proceed to spout your confused venom where it doesn't belong or is deserved. Until then come at me with data that proves me wrong rather than spewing your junk at parents like me because you don't have the balls to face your demons or the bad parents to their face.
P.s.
Not that I need to explain myself to you but I am a single father to a 14 year old who never felt the rath of angry father. Not once. Yet has deserved it more than once. Your ignorance of the precarious balancing act a parent undergoes when raising a child from birth is astonishing.
Fuck off, kids don't need to be slapped into submission to turn out right.
If your parents needed to slap you because you didn't know right from wrong, maybe you should learn where you picked up the behavior that got you spanked.
Right because kids know right from wrong before they know right from wrong.
What in your estimation gives gravity to wrong? We know what gives "right" its meaning but what gives "wrong" it's meaning? Words, a talking to? Na. Words and a talking to are simply the warning sign. If one doesn't heed the warning sign than one does not get another warning sign. What happens in the real world is that one carelessly runs into oncoming traffic. If one were to be lucky enough to survive that screw up than consequences of that screw up have to follow. You don't get to walk life without some sort of consequence to bad actions even if one escapes death.
Part of parenting and yes part of being a good parent (IMO) is loving and part of loving is dealing out punishment even when it also hurts oneself to do so. One doesn't get to "parent" the easy way. Parents don't get to play with kids, take them on vacation, ball games and teach them to learn but then delegate the punishment to "life" or for the world to teach ones kids the lessons that should have been taught by the parent. Parents don't get to simply reap the rewards of the good times without also dealing with the agony of punishing our kids when it needs to be done.
With every spanking a parent gives it not only teaches the lesson but also indirectly teaches the kid that life is sometimes not fun but the job has to be done regardless of one's wants. Spanking is a purely selfless act. It ONLY benefits the child. The parent gets no future rewards for such an action. In fact the parent has to live with that decision in agony for ever. The parent caused pain to someone they love more than their own life. Do you realize, I mean really understand the gravity of such action? Parents take on the burden with no return other than the fact our agony will help the very thing we love more than life itself.
You are not only wrong but lack depth of thought and consequence. Your thoughts and words even deceive you.
If you teach your kid right from wrong then they will know right from wrong
You all can continue your "But kids won't know right from wrong unless you give them pain!!!" but that is factually, and psychologically untrue.
You are all saying that it is simply the correct way, and it is not.
And you harken that parents do it from a place of love, but no parent where it comes from love, talks about it with glee, and like it is something that must be done.
It is not a selfless act. Parents slap their kids as the easy way to teach them right from wrong, instead of putting the effort in the hard way, being a good example for your child in all situations, never letting your bad side show, never letting your temper flare.
The future reward, is the parents get to go around and say "My kid is good because we got whoopings when we were younger, and they got whoppings too." The reward for the parent, is teaching their child the same way their parents taught them, and feeling moral over it, like you.
I would love you to show me, all these commenters in "agony" after slapping their child, but the fact of the matter they aren't, and they are smug about it.
You are all simply coping with how either you were parented, or how you parent, and you people simply can not stand, anyone suggesting that slapping children isn't the correct parenting tactic.
I've been around children who grew up slapped, and children who werent, and I will tell you that it is 100% the parents and the people who raise the children and nothing else that dictates their behavior, and Yes that includes sending them to public school to be raised by "Teachers" and whatever "students" are around.
Again, think about where you picked up your bad behavior you got slapped from, was it your parents or the shitty kids at your school?
Classic. You libs always deviate from the topic. First you changed it to "beating" then you changed it to "slapping" when we were clearly speaking of spanking. Its a common tactic but I won't let you deviate. Again, spanking is the mode of punishment. Spanking.
Let's also separate physical punishment from a teaching method. One does not turn to spanking unless the situation calls for it and, in most cases, a teaching moment had already been implemented. No one claimed physical punishment was the first nor the only method of punishment. The topic and thread was about physical punishment hence the talk about said method that included spanking.
It's always you closed minded and mentally absolute smooth brained chumps who weave a larger topic into a narrow discussion then pretend the smaller subsect speaks for the entirety of your ill introduced subject. I won't pretend you understood that at the onset of you weak argument but thought I would clear that up.
You smooth brains also, to your detriment, see the world in black and white but only when its convenient. Why? Because it suits your capability. Your type do not have the ability to think in terms of depth of thought. Depth of knowledge does not exist in your world. Your taught what to think not how to think. Hence you always revert back to the "true and tried" absolutist comments and thoughts. You carelessly hurl unproven percentages that at their face are absurd like "100%". These ddon't exist in the real world and stand untested. Then when faced with being called on those accusations your type inevitably site some opinion article without a shred of verifiable data (which you will fight the urge to do now no doubt).
I'll admit to one error. My error was assuming that I didn't have to clear this crap up to your type.
But now that we're here. Human psychology is probably one of the most studied subjects in existence. It has been picked apart back to the dawn of man. Humans simply learn most efficiently and directly with immediate and sometimes painful feedback. From not eating berrys and plants that make one violently ill, not fucking with lions because they cause pain to not sticking your hand in fire. It is the very reason why humans have pain receptors. It is to alert the human that somethig is wrong and to proceed with caution. At the very moment of pain the human brain immediately focuses all senses to what caused said pain. In that moment, faster than 25 nano seconds, it records the equivalent of terabytes of data. The feeling, the smell in the air, the image and every color within that color spectrum, the human reaction to pain, all of it. All of those resources laser focused for that split second of time methodically, efficiently and with great precision taught a lesson.
It is the very process of thousands of years of human refinement and perfection that your smooth brain argument arrogantly professes to know better of with a simple black and white word salad. It's a down right joke. Not your lack of knowledge but your inability to learn and honestly what appears to infect your type, your wanting and arrogant resistance to learn. Not because you have something to learn but instead because you feel you've reached your pinnacle.
In closing. Your experience around bad parents who may have beat or "slapped" kids has no bearing on good parents ability to discipline their kids in a manner that's conducive to direct feedback to their child when he or she deviates into a situation that would cause them greater harm than a spanking on their bottom.
You can tackle your grievances and demons where they lay at the feet of bad parents who beat their children but don't pretend to know better and proceed to spout your confused venom where it doesn't belong or is deserved. Until then come at me with data that proves me wrong rather than spewing your junk at parents like me because you don't have the balls to face your demons or the bad parents to their face.
P.s. Not that I need to explain myself to you but I am a single father to a 14 year old who never felt the rath of angry father. Not once. Yet has deserved it more than once. Your ignorance of the precarious balancing act a parent undergoes when raising a child from birth is astonishing.