You can repeat this claim as much as you want, but it won't alter factual reality. The independent United States of America, was founded on July 4th, 1776, when the Second Continental Congress, as representatives of the people of the several states, approved the Declaration of Independence. The founding of the Union (which occurred prior to Independence from the British Empire) is dated to October 20, 1774, when the First Continental Congress approved the Articles of Association.
and you obviously are unaware of actual US History.
I'm quite well aware of actual US History. Which is why I'm happily volunteering my time here to tutor you for free.
FUN FACT : The USA had 18 Presidents before it had started its Constitution,
Correct, mostly. Prior to the Constitution, there weren't 18, but 17 Presidents of the Continental and Confederation Congresses.
Washington was the 18th in April 1789
Yes. Washington was the 18th President, and the 1st President under the Constitution, which went into effect on March 4, 1789.
President of USA 01 : Peyton Randolph VA Sep. 5–Oct. 22, 1774
Like I said, the establishment of the Union dates back to Oct 20, 1774. Randolph was elected president of the First Continental Congress on the first day that the body met, on Sept 5, 1774. Arguably, the Declaration and Resolves approved on October 14, 1774 could be more accurately pinpointed as the birth of the Union, but that document was more appropriately a stated agenda, whereas the Articles of Association approved 6 days later, was the actual incorporation document. By referencing these first 17 presidents and dating your timeline back to 1774, you ironically only helped prove my statement.
September 25th 1789 : Initial work on US Constitution and first 12 amendments Ratification attempt, AFTER 18 Prior presidents
Wrong. Work began on the US Constitution on May 14, 1787 with the start of what would eventually be termed the Constitutional Convention. The proposed replacement to the Articles was completed on Sept 17, 1787. It was ratified on June 21, 1788 and took effect March 4, 1789. Washington was elected on Feb 4, 1789 and took office on Apr 30, 1789. Work by Madison on the first proposed amendments began on June 8, 1789. House approved 17, combined with Senate, Congress ultimately approved 12, and 10 were ratified by the states (articles 3-12 became Amendments 1-10, often called the Bill of Rights). These amendments took effect Dec 15, 1791.
Thus people claim he was the "first president" under the Constitution in 1789.
Yes, he was the 1st President under the Constitution, the 1st President of the United States of America after the country altered its form of government from a confederation to a federation.
But the US Constitution was not fully formed until the end of 1791, with more work and voting in 1792.
Under such logic, then the USA doesn't actually exist because the US Constitution continues to be worked on to this very day, and will continue to be worked on and [hopefully] improved so long as this nation survives.
"Thus, the USA started in Dec 15 1791
No. It started, it was founded, it came into existence, on July 4th 1776. As John Quincy Adams would eloquently put it 45 years later, "They were a nation, asserting as of right, and maintaining by war, its own existence. A nation was born in a day." That day, was July 4th, 1776. Adams date reference was topped only by Abraham Lincoln's "four score and seventy years ago" line from his Gettysburg Address.
its main formation immediately put an end to Jews attempting to ever again bring a single African born slave into the new nation.
Ah, so now you allude back to your original incorrect statement about 1807 being the "start"... so is it 1807 or 1791? You can't seem to make up your mind...
If we're establishing the start... formation... establishment... beginning... founding... the BIRTH of the USA, as an independent nation, it is July 4th, 1776. Period. As to dating the conception of the USA, like with that of every human, it would be quite impossible to pinpoint an definitive date. But the birthday of this nation was July 4th, 1776. Everything else that happened afterwards, has been part of the development of this nation. Again, as I've stated before, the life of the Union dates back further into 1774. Understanding that little known fact, helps add more context into the development of our nation. This is real American History. It's not really difficult to understand...
You can repeat this claim as much as you want, but it won't alter factual reality. The independent United States of America, was founded on July 4th, 1776, when the Second Continental Congress, as representatives of the people of the several states, approved the Declaration of Independence. The founding of the Union (which occurred prior to Independence from the British Empire) is dated to October 20, 1774, when the First Continental Congress approved the Articles of Association.
I'm quite well aware of actual US History. Which is why I'm happily volunteering my time here to tutor you for free.
Correct, mostly. Prior to the Constitution, there weren't 18, but 17 Presidents of the Continental and Confederation Congresses.
Yes. Washington was the 18th President, and the 1st President under the Constitution, which went into effect on March 4, 1789.
Like I said, the establishment of the Union dates back to Oct 20, 1774. Randolph was elected president of the First Continental Congress on the first day that the body met, on Sept 5, 1774. Arguably, the Declaration and Resolves approved on October 14, 1774 could be more accurately pinpointed as the birth of the Union, but that document was more appropriately a stated agenda, whereas the Articles of Association approved 6 days later, was the actual incorporation document. By referencing these first 17 presidents and dating your timeline back to 1774, you ironically only helped prove my statement.
Wrong. Work began on the US Constitution on May 14, 1787 with the start of what would eventually be termed the Constitutional Convention. The proposed replacement to the Articles was completed on Sept 17, 1787. It was ratified on June 21, 1788 and took effect March 4, 1789. Washington was elected on Feb 4, 1789 and took office on Apr 30, 1789. Work by Madison on the first proposed amendments began on June 8, 1789. House approved 17, combined with Senate, Congress ultimately approved 12, and 10 were ratified by the states (articles 3-12 became Amendments 1-10, often called the Bill of Rights). These amendments took effect Dec 15, 1791.
Yes, he was the 1st President under the Constitution, the 1st President of the United States of America after the country altered its form of government from a confederation to a federation.
Under such logic, then the USA doesn't actually exist because the US Constitution continues to be worked on to this very day, and will continue to be worked on and [hopefully] improved so long as this nation survives.
No. It started, it was founded, it came into existence, on July 4th 1776. As John Quincy Adams would eloquently put it 45 years later, "They were a nation, asserting as of right, and maintaining by war, its own existence. A nation was born in a day." That day, was July 4th, 1776. Adams date reference was topped only by Abraham Lincoln's "four score and seventy years ago" line from his Gettysburg Address.
Ah, so now you allude back to your original incorrect statement about 1807 being the "start"... so is it 1807 or 1791? You can't seem to make up your mind...
If we're establishing the start... formation... establishment... beginning... founding... the BIRTH of the USA, as an independent nation, it is July 4th, 1776. Period. As to dating the conception of the USA, like with that of every human, it would be quite impossible to pinpoint an definitive date. But the birthday of this nation was July 4th, 1776. Everything else that happened afterwards, has been part of the development of this nation. Again, as I've stated before, the life of the Union dates back further into 1774. Understanding that little known fact, helps add more context into the development of our nation. This is real American History. It's not really difficult to understand...