"Nature is based on random processes at the atomic level."
Incredibly wrong. It appears you have no idea.
"I am a career expert in system engineering and rocketry."
You've made similar claims before in the distant past, to which you refused to provide evidence. Since evidence of your claim has never been forthcoming, there's no reason to believe your fantastic claim. Likewise, my claim is just as relevant as yours.
I stated I was a gravitic expert because I am. Gravity works every time, especially with relevant material. Musk's rocketry is not relevant to his moral behavior. This is my point I'm conveying and the gist of the discussion. If Lucifer himself swirls a 4th-of-July sparkler around to impress the audience, does this somehow make him a better person? No, of course not. Rocketry, electric cars, trans-humanism, Twitter are all sparklers having nothing to do with the character of the person. In my long life, I've known several successful business owners, who (all of them) lamented on their immoral past for establishing their businesses. It was that killer instinct that they regretted. Business success is intricately combined with this not so 'ethical' premise that success without unethical behavior is a very rare. No one, and I mean 'no one' gets into a position of wealth and power without making a bargain with the devil. It's just the world we live in. Evil is infinite in the material world.
"We don't need demonic possession to sin; it comes with our nature, in the most flagrant ways."
As you stated, it indeed does come with our nature. IMHO, I believe all sin is based on an emotional origin of sorts. It is when emotion leads and directs cognition. Albeit, there's the influences you speak of that adds another dimension to our daily lives. The opposite of where cognition leads is the standard for mitigating sin. Cognition is by knowing the Law (the Decalogue), which establishes a 'rule' to live by and thereby tempers and controls our emotion. This is just my humble opinion though. And as you rightly stated-- "Satan tempts us, yes---but WE are the ones who give in to temptation." Our Will, or conation (not cognation in this reference), is weakened by drugs and alcohol, etc.
You can reveal yourself here, first. I use a handle for the sake of ANONYMITY, anon. Don't make demands that violate the very spirit of participation in this environment. Nothing "fantastic" about my claim, since it is true---and far from rare. (Which continues to be my clue that you don't know what you are talking about.)
Give a good study to the science of statistical physics and (e.g.) the kinetic theory of gases for an education on the randomness inherent at the atomic level.
I see you are an "apple falls" gravity expert. At the 3-year-old level. The point was whether Musk earned his creds or was a fake. The evidence is that he is not a fake in regard to rocketry. Nor were the Soviets, for that matter. You need to distinguish between talent and morals.
Sin? Mostly when emotion bypasses cognition, I would say. Thoughtlessness. Callousness. Neglect. Foolishness. Dishonesty.
You made the claims many months ago to which then you refused to provide any evidence of your credentials. This is deja vu for me. The 'gravitic expert' exercise was to demonstrate the hubris in claiming any credentials on GAW. Without evidence, it's really meaningless.
My point was we're all equal here at GAW.
The following will be the only time I'll ever state this and will be the exception contrary to my steadfast rule to always treat others as equals.... Because they are. I really enjoy other people's thoughts no matter what their academic history is. I've met some pretty amazing intelligent people throughout my life. Many of which had no academic degrees, but were 'blue collar' individuals instead. For me, I spent many years in the military as a missile system expert. I have several years of education and training in this area. I also have a degree in engineering and a masters degree. I'm a lifelong Tau Beta Pi honorary member. I worked in factory automation and robotics and also specialized in material science in shape memory materials. I designed the first prototypes using materials that are now widely used throughout the medical industry. Okay there it is. I could go on because there's almost 50 years of learning, technical experience, teaching, and now retirement. IMHO, it's all meaningless here because to me it is the thoughts of any individual posting that is valuable. I honor that. Graham's Hierarchy of Argument is aiming at the top of the pyramid and refuting the central point, to which I originally called into question Elon Musk's character. It's not about his rocketry. It's his morality that I question.
Yes, I know about internet egalitarianism---where dunderheads think they are peers with people who actually know the subject matter. I run into this all the time on climate criticism forums.
I like that you put your credentials out there (anonymously, of course). And I can agree with your sentiments. But you have forgotten that your original beef with Musk was that he was "fake," and that was what I was responding to. I take no issue with his morals, but he is no fake when it comes to rocketry.
Indeed he is fake in the context of being IMHO a great deceiver. It's another way of stating he is a fake. This is why I'm expounding on his moral decadence. My interpretation of Elon was that he really was 'born' into these positions as a result of family ties to secret societies. You seem to have forgotten the the links I provided earlier. Recall Miles Mattis'--"I don't Believe in Musk". I'm assuming you didn't read this expose because you've already made up your mind in being an advocate of this deceiver. Some people even suggest that Elon Musk,... wait for it, will usher in the Beast system. The Satanism involvement surrounding him suggests perhaps these people might be on to 'something'.
I'm not warm and fuzzy about Elon Musk for the reason I mentioned earlier. I've outlined this by always emphasizing its my humble opinion. We have to honor opposing polemics even when they are indeed opinions. In stating this, I respect your perspective. I just don't agree with it as you with my position.
Incredibly wrong. It appears you have no idea.
You've made similar claims before in the distant past, to which you refused to provide evidence. Since evidence of your claim has never been forthcoming, there's no reason to believe your fantastic claim. Likewise, my claim is just as relevant as yours.
I stated I was a gravitic expert because I am. Gravity works every time, especially with relevant material. Musk's rocketry is not relevant to his moral behavior. This is my point I'm conveying and the gist of the discussion. If Lucifer himself swirls a 4th-of-July sparkler around to impress the audience, does this somehow make him a better person? No, of course not. Rocketry, electric cars, trans-humanism, Twitter are all sparklers having nothing to do with the character of the person. In my long life, I've known several successful business owners, who (all of them) lamented on their immoral past for establishing their businesses. It was that killer instinct that they regretted. Business success is intricately combined with this not so 'ethical' premise that success without unethical behavior is a very rare. No one, and I mean 'no one' gets into a position of wealth and power without making a bargain with the devil. It's just the world we live in. Evil is infinite in the material world.
As you stated, it indeed does come with our nature. IMHO, I believe all sin is based on an emotional origin of sorts. It is when emotion leads and directs cognition. Albeit, there's the influences you speak of that adds another dimension to our daily lives. The opposite of where cognition leads is the standard for mitigating sin. Cognition is by knowing the Law (the Decalogue), which establishes a 'rule' to live by and thereby tempers and controls our emotion. This is just my humble opinion though. And as you rightly stated-- "Satan tempts us, yes---but WE are the ones who give in to temptation." Our Will, or conation (not cognation in this reference), is weakened by drugs and alcohol, etc.
You can reveal yourself here, first. I use a handle for the sake of ANONYMITY, anon. Don't make demands that violate the very spirit of participation in this environment. Nothing "fantastic" about my claim, since it is true---and far from rare. (Which continues to be my clue that you don't know what you are talking about.)
Give a good study to the science of statistical physics and (e.g.) the kinetic theory of gases for an education on the randomness inherent at the atomic level.
I see you are an "apple falls" gravity expert. At the 3-year-old level. The point was whether Musk earned his creds or was a fake. The evidence is that he is not a fake in regard to rocketry. Nor were the Soviets, for that matter. You need to distinguish between talent and morals.
Sin? Mostly when emotion bypasses cognition, I would say. Thoughtlessness. Callousness. Neglect. Foolishness. Dishonesty.
You made the claims many months ago to which then you refused to provide any evidence of your credentials. This is deja vu for me. The 'gravitic expert' exercise was to demonstrate the hubris in claiming any credentials on GAW. Without evidence, it's really meaningless.
My point was we're all equal here at GAW.
The following will be the only time I'll ever state this and will be the exception contrary to my steadfast rule to always treat others as equals.... Because they are. I really enjoy other people's thoughts no matter what their academic history is. I've met some pretty amazing intelligent people throughout my life. Many of which had no academic degrees, but were 'blue collar' individuals instead. For me, I spent many years in the military as a missile system expert. I have several years of education and training in this area. I also have a degree in engineering and a masters degree. I'm a lifelong Tau Beta Pi honorary member. I worked in factory automation and robotics and also specialized in material science in shape memory materials. I designed the first prototypes using materials that are now widely used throughout the medical industry. Okay there it is. I could go on because there's almost 50 years of learning, technical experience, teaching, and now retirement. IMHO, it's all meaningless here because to me it is the thoughts of any individual posting that is valuable. I honor that. Graham's Hierarchy of Argument is aiming at the top of the pyramid and refuting the central point, to which I originally called into question Elon Musk's character. It's not about his rocketry. It's his morality that I question.
Yes, I know about internet egalitarianism---where dunderheads think they are peers with people who actually know the subject matter. I run into this all the time on climate criticism forums.
I like that you put your credentials out there (anonymously, of course). And I can agree with your sentiments. But you have forgotten that your original beef with Musk was that he was "fake," and that was what I was responding to. I take no issue with his morals, but he is no fake when it comes to rocketry.
Indeed he is fake in the context of being IMHO a great deceiver. It's another way of stating he is a fake. This is why I'm expounding on his moral decadence. My interpretation of Elon was that he really was 'born' into these positions as a result of family ties to secret societies. You seem to have forgotten the the links I provided earlier. Recall Miles Mattis'--"I don't Believe in Musk". I'm assuming you didn't read this expose because you've already made up your mind in being an advocate of this deceiver. Some people even suggest that Elon Musk,... wait for it, will usher in the Beast system. The Satanism involvement surrounding him suggests perhaps these people might be on to 'something'.
I'm not warm and fuzzy about Elon Musk for the reason I mentioned earlier. I've outlined this by always emphasizing its my humble opinion. We have to honor opposing polemics even when they are indeed opinions. In stating this, I respect your perspective. I just don't agree with it as you with my position.