The Bible is the history of the Israelites under the rule of yahweh...it is not the word of a creator of all worlds..trillions of them..galaxies and universes....
Broaden your thinking.
There was no record of anything Jesus Christ said or did..the church say this and Jesus Christ is not a name a Jew would have..neither are matthew mark Luke and John names of his companions fellow conspirators for which crime he was allegedly crucified...so yes it is fraudulent.. in very many ways
There are eternal truths in every religion...
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Do you honestly believe as the Bible states that god said the only way his creatures would get into heaven was if his only begotten son died a horrible death by crucifixion....
Do you think the Jews killing animals to purify them from sin is a true thing? That it would work?
How do you think someone sacrificing themselves is gonna work? How can that work? God would have to be a sadist and jesus a masochist for that to make it even something that could happen?? And why and how can that help you?
We are here to learn and grow have experiences. Etc...what we learn from here we take with us to our next life....how does that equate with someone having a horrible death? Guilt? A negative emotion...
I respect your right to believe whatever you like...I think we are at an impasse, tho. No, you have convinced me of nothing and I have no inclination to debate our points of contention. I could give you the tenets of my faith but if you don't accept them as valid what good would it do? I know whom I have believed in...I am just as sure in what I believe as you are. The God of creation and of the Bible is just as real as anything I have ever known. In my view God proves science and science proves God and I am comfortable with the fact that you believe differently.
"Do you honestly believe as the Bible states that god said the only way his creatures would get into heaven was if his only begotten son died a horrible death by crucifixion"
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16
I interpret that John 3:16 is referring to the power of Belief and Christ was the embodiment of pure unconditional love [vibration] [frequency].
We are all "creators". Our beliefs get manifested in this realm. A good example of this is the Placebo effect. If we believe that unconditional love [Christ] is the way we will create peace and unity and bring heaven to Earth. When we embody unconditional love our vibration [vibe] increases and our DNA changes. Like the stories of Jesus performing miracles and raising from the dead. We are ALL "God's" children. We are all capable of what Jesus accomplished. IMO
The Bible talks about aliens creating us..we were here already...they had technology..war weapons. They pretended to be gods so don't quote the homicidal psychopaths in th Bible at me.
I don't consider being a martyr and allowing yourself to be slaughtered is unconditional love either. Not that it happened. Try reading the 75 books banned ..the gospel of Peter for one.
"I don't consider being a martyr and allowing yourself to be slaughtered is unconditional love."
"Forgive them father for they know not what they do."
That sounds a lot like unconditional love to me. Especially from a higher consciousness individual that understood what this world truly is, a Consciousness Matrix.
Dying on the cross was a pure example of unconditional love that echoed throughout humanity for thousands of years.
No behaving worse than a doormat..not loving and respecting yourself isn't unconditional love. I understand that to behave this way piles guilt on recipient who cannot help despise such weak masochist behaviour which then fills him with guilt and anger which is then translated into being unable to escape the burden of guilt. V
Jesuits..fpgive me the child from one to seven and I will give you the man
If you don't believe that the Jesuits know all about psychology and victim behaviour you won't understand why they also show this tortured individual with a crown of thorns on a cross...it's your fault...if you didn't sin it wouldn't have needed to happen etc
Well you are young and judgemental or if not you need to do some growing...
...and I say yahweh was a pathological homicidal psychopath because I understand what the words mean and have the evidence even in the Bible to show it is true.
What I told you about Jesuit give me child from one to seven you have just shown me where your brainwashing conditioning came from...listening to a preacher with your dad in the car
The Bible is the history of the Israelites under the rule of yahweh...it is not the word of a creator of all worlds..trillions of them..galaxies and universes....
Broaden your thinking.
There was no record of anything Jesus Christ said or did..the church say this and Jesus Christ is not a name a Jew would have..neither are matthew mark Luke and John names of his companions fellow conspirators for which crime he was allegedly crucified...so yes it is fraudulent.. in very many ways
There are eternal truths in every religion...
I Do you honestly believe as the Bible states that god said the only way his creatures would get into heaven was if his only begotten son died a horrible death by crucifixion....
Do you think the Jews killing animals to purify them from sin is a true thing? That it would work?
How do you think someone sacrificing themselves is gonna work? How can that work? God would have to be a sadist and jesus a masochist for that to make it even something that could happen?? And why and how can that help you?
We are here to learn and grow have experiences. Etc...what we learn from here we take with us to our next life....how does that equate with someone having a horrible death? Guilt? A negative emotion...
I respect your right to believe whatever you like...I think we are at an impasse, tho. No, you have convinced me of nothing and I have no inclination to debate our points of contention. I could give you the tenets of my faith but if you don't accept them as valid what good would it do? I know whom I have believed in...I am just as sure in what I believe as you are. The God of creation and of the Bible is just as real as anything I have ever known. In my view God proves science and science proves God and I am comfortable with the fact that you believe differently.
"Do you honestly believe as the Bible states that god said the only way his creatures would get into heaven was if his only begotten son died a horrible death by crucifixion"
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16
I interpret that John 3:16 is referring to the power of Belief and Christ was the embodiment of pure unconditional love [vibration] [frequency].
We are all "creators". Our beliefs get manifested in this realm. A good example of this is the Placebo effect. If we believe that unconditional love [Christ] is the way we will create peace and unity and bring heaven to Earth. When we embody unconditional love our vibration [vibe] increases and our DNA changes. Like the stories of Jesus performing miracles and raising from the dead. We are ALL "God's" children. We are all capable of what Jesus accomplished. IMO
The Bible talks about aliens creating us..we were here already...they had technology..war weapons. They pretended to be gods so don't quote the homicidal psychopaths in th Bible at me.
I don't consider being a martyr and allowing yourself to be slaughtered is unconditional love either. Not that it happened. Try reading the 75 books banned ..the gospel of Peter for one.
"I don't consider being a martyr and allowing yourself to be slaughtered is unconditional love."
"Forgive them father for they know not what they do."
That sounds a lot like unconditional love to me. Especially from a higher consciousness individual that understood what this world truly is, a Consciousness Matrix.
Dying on the cross was a pure example of unconditional love that echoed throughout humanity for thousands of years.
No behaving worse than a doormat..not loving and respecting yourself isn't unconditional love. I understand that to behave this way piles guilt on recipient who cannot help despise such weak masochist behaviour which then fills him with guilt and anger which is then translated into being unable to escape the burden of guilt. V
Jesuits..fpgive me the child from one to seven and I will give you the man
If you don't believe that the Jesuits know all about psychology and victim behaviour you won't understand why they also show this tortured individual with a crown of thorns on a cross...it's your fault...if you didn't sin it wouldn't have needed to happen etc
Do you understand nothing?
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/38600
This is a free pdf on the sixteen crucified saviours....one apparently not enough
It's a satanic thing...blood sacrifice
Galatians 1.4 the lord Jesus Christ is the one who gave himself for our sins so that he might rescue us from t his present evil age ...blah blah
"don't quote the homicidal psychopaths in th Bible at me."
"You should stop being so self righteous"
"I think you are young? The young are very black and white and JUDGMENTAL...lack of tolerance and experience"
"Sorry..your one sounding off"
Do you see?
Well you are young and judgemental or if not you need to do some growing...
...and I say yahweh was a pathological homicidal psychopath because I understand what the words mean and have the evidence even in the Bible to show it is true.
What I told you about Jesuit give me child from one to seven you have just shown me where your brainwashing conditioning came from...listening to a preacher with your dad in the car