Everyone, if you would, turn in your meme Bibles to Checkmate 3:16...
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While funny, the people I've talked to who aren't believers have no issues with Jesus they have issues with the Paulites who worship Paul's interpretation of Jesus and all the hypocrisy. And I mean, I can't blame them. Christians can be bigger assholes than some of the most staunch Reddit brand atheists.
Christians: "I don't need to respect other religions or faiths. I follow the correct god."
Jesus: "Treat others the way you want to be treated. Love your enemies. Turn the other cheek"
Seems like every day you have something to say about Paul. Sorry, fren, but Paul's letters were accepted and copied by the churches that had firsthand witnesses of Jesus' preaching. I believe the earliest surviving manuscripts from the New Testament are copies of Paul. Peter calls Paul's letters scripture. Luke, who wrote one of the Gospels, also wrote Acts, which heavily featured Paul as a character and was a close associate of Paul. You don't have a lot to stand on by rejecting Paul. Paul's "interpretation of Jesus" is not out of line with the rest of scripture.
Yes, thank god we have Paul since Jesus was clearly too stupid to get all the gospel correct when He was here...
I don't completely disagree with Paul. I think his description of love is beautiful and perfect. In the end, Paul will be judged the same as you or I and that is where I start to have my issues. For one, most believers hold Paul to the same standard if not sometimes above Jesus as you just explained. Those churches you mention were run by men and just because they knew Jesus, doesn't mean they were magically made infallible. They were still men, still imperfect and still sinful. They weren't Jesus and neither was Paul. I don't need Paul to know Jesus. I can study and pray to Him directly just like I don't need to go through preachers to speak to Elohim.
Yes, I will point this out often and when I feel it's relevant. People need to decide these things and all aspects of the Bible and faith on their own. And that's made possible by challenging the established precepts and throwing the entire Book against the wall of scrutiny as hard and as often as possible. Not everything in the Book is of God except by the default proxy that He technically created everything. Unfortunately man has perverted and bastardized the texts. While I once clung to the belief that the "Holy" Bible was holy until I learned that one, Jefferson was able to write his own version and still lived well into his 80s while being the 3rd President of the greatest country on Earth and two, that if there was some magical force protecting the Bible, then we could determine with absolutely certainty that there is no free will. I'm not convinced that there isn't and as such in order for 100% free will, at least free will within our own minds to be possible, then it means that the Bible is vulnerable to the corruption of greedy, evil men.
Thankfully, we have Jesus. And all we really NEED is the accounts of Mathew Mark Luke and John (though the other 13's opinions would have been nice too, even Judas). The rest of the book is arguably optional. I live and see the fruits of loving my enemies and treating others the way I want to be treated every day. I have my reasons for believing the way I do. In the end we need to remember to respect people's personal choices and remind ourselves that faith is a personal journey and personal CHOICE. It's not our place to tell others how to live. Only to show them our unique understanding of His ideas on living.
TIL: Jesus invented the Golden Rule
Its worth examining further what "Treat others the way you want to be treated. Love your enemies. Turn the other cheek" actually mean.
They all rest upon turning the other cheek. Meaning square up and treat me like an equal.
And specifically with cheek turning, I'll admit, if the fedbois kick down my door tomorrow, I'm going out in a blaze of glory. I am not brave enough for prison and I will die as I have lived. Free. If I end up being wrong in that interpretation, okay. I will own my actions and my choices.
But there really isn't any wiggle room with loving your enemies and treating others the way you want to be treated. Even if someone is shitty towards us, the expectation is that we take the higher road and prove a higher way of thinking by simply walking away when the time is right. Unless someone is trying to force you to do something, there really is no reason to get mean or defensive. They can't make you do anything you don't want to. No one can. Not even God... mainly cause that's how He designed it and chooses to be. He wants us to choose Him because it's what WE want, not because your grandma wants it.
I agree with you. We are also supposed to hate evil. Make sure to say a prayer for our patriot frens locked of for j6.
I hope you didn't miss Paul week on Owen Benjamin's Rumble channel. You would Have been in high cotton.
First I am hearing of it. I will take a look. Thanks!
Okay so the only one I could find listed it as "...and Paul week ends"