I have some serious questions from you. you say government cant violate by proxy then what about j6. They let people in the front door, then arrested them. Please tell me what you think about the oath keepers.
I already said the Oath Keepers are patriots. They are made up of ex cops and ex military. If you think it is weird that they wore masks to J6 I don't know what to say to you. I'm pretty sure ex cops and ex military would properly prepare to go to something that they knew would devolve into violence. It was likely not their first time wearing gas masks. I know I had to do the gas mask training overseas when I was military. I carried my chem gear with me in my car for 2 years while I was stationed in Europe, and we had plenty of chemical exercises. If you think that because the govt went after and arrested oath keepers I'd suggest you remember the govt also went after soccer moms going to school board meetings, and classified them as domestic terrorists.
As for the government violating the Constitution by proxy - it is illegal. Now - when the government, the DOJ, and the FBI are all corrupt who do you think will actually arrest them and hold them responsible? Even if someone does, the courts are corrupt in DC so it will never go anywhere.
That's entirely possible. The feds infiltrated J6 and probably some of the individual groups as well. The point is - even if the feds infiltrated the Oath Keepers that does not mean the Oath Keepers are bad. It means the feds are bad. The feds like Ray Epps pretended to be MAGA patriots also, but that doesn't mean MAGA patriots are bad.
I am just getting a feel for what you saying. Yes what you are saying is true. Just don't trust everything. If I think they are possibly infiltrated then I cant fully trust them. Militias can be good as long as they aren't the offensive one, more the defensive ones.
I have some serious questions from you. you say government cant violate by proxy then what about j6. They let people in the front door, then arrested them. Please tell me what you think about the oath keepers.
I already said the Oath Keepers are patriots. They are made up of ex cops and ex military. If you think it is weird that they wore masks to J6 I don't know what to say to you. I'm pretty sure ex cops and ex military would properly prepare to go to something that they knew would devolve into violence. It was likely not their first time wearing gas masks. I know I had to do the gas mask training overseas when I was military. I carried my chem gear with me in my car for 2 years while I was stationed in Europe, and we had plenty of chemical exercises. If you think that because the govt went after and arrested oath keepers I'd suggest you remember the govt also went after soccer moms going to school board meetings, and classified them as domestic terrorists.
As for the government violating the Constitution by proxy - it is illegal. Now - when the government, the DOJ, and the FBI are all corrupt who do you think will actually arrest them and hold them responsible? Even if someone does, the courts are corrupt in DC so it will never go anywhere.
I ma not picking a fight with you. I worry that some of them were under cover feds at j6. I understand what they are about.
That's entirely possible. The feds infiltrated J6 and probably some of the individual groups as well. The point is - even if the feds infiltrated the Oath Keepers that does not mean the Oath Keepers are bad. It means the feds are bad. The feds like Ray Epps pretended to be MAGA patriots also, but that doesn't mean MAGA patriots are bad.
I am just getting a feel for what you saying. Yes what you are saying is true. Just don't trust everything. If I think they are possibly infiltrated then I cant fully trust them. Militias can be good as long as they aren't the offensive one, more the defensive ones.