The operative word here is switched. Not manufactured, fake, and harvested ballots, those are a totally different category.
I get the 17% reference, still if that’s correct, even without accounting for ballot harvesting/stuffing and only at switching, which can only be done with the machines, President Trump would have received somewhere around 86 million votes. And, Biden, with the assistance of ballot stuffing got around 69 million.
But, there is little reason to believe 2020 varied that much from the 2016 election where about 129 million votes were cast, 66 million Clinton/63 million Trump. So, Biden more likely only received around 43 million valid votes. That’s a number many people here over the last two years have said, at an intuitive level, makes more sense.
I think this is what is meant by "rigged" vs "defrauded". Both obviously happened in 2020 to large scales, and both obviously happened in Arizona in 2022. The good news is that I think it is easier to combat rigging. Once we know what they are doing, we can take normal steps to defeat it, or even conduct it ourselves if the system is so mucked up that we have to. Fraud depends on judges, often influenced by deep state factors, to " overturn" an election. I think even legitimate judges are understandably hesitant to do that.
The operative word here is switched. Not manufactured, fake, and harvested ballots, those are a totally different category.
I get the 17% reference, still if that’s correct, even without accounting for ballot harvesting/stuffing and only at switching, which can only be done with the machines, President Trump would have received somewhere around 86 million votes. And, Biden, with the assistance of ballot stuffing got around 69 million.
But, there is little reason to believe 2020 varied that much from the 2016 election where about 129 million votes were cast, 66 million Clinton/63 million Trump. So, Biden more likely only received around 43 million valid votes. That’s a number many people here over the last two years have said, at an intuitive level, makes more sense.
I think this is what is meant by "rigged" vs "defrauded". Both obviously happened in 2020 to large scales, and both obviously happened in Arizona in 2022. The good news is that I think it is easier to combat rigging. Once we know what they are doing, we can take normal steps to defeat it, or even conduct it ourselves if the system is so mucked up that we have to. Fraud depends on judges, often influenced by deep state factors, to " overturn" an election. I think even legitimate judges are understandably hesitant to do that.