Your Alt-Reality Is Boring......A plea for more interesting alt-realities than the Moon Landing Hoax, Flat Earth, and No Virus.
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there's nothing to lose, except my time and dignity, grow up, those people are just dangling fake offers, none of them have ever paid out, you think that 3 bitcoin is the only offer? there are offers on both sides, it takes 5 mins to find them, you are wasting my time. the earth isn't flat. you're stupid if you think it is.
Why are you so mean?
I personally know the guy making the offer. I can vouch for him. Calling him a conman is a cop out.
If you've got a legit proof, give it to me and I'll take it to him. I'm only interested in the truth. I'm not married to either side of the argument, despite the fact that the score is like 287 to 0 right now.
I'm willing to change my mind but it appears you don't share the same sentiment. Which is it? Are you more interested in the truth or in defending the globe?
You say you've got the proof that ends the FE movement. Great. I'll keep all the money and you can smile in the background knowing it was your proof that killed it if that's the way you'd like to do it.
I know Dave Weiss and I know he's good for the 3 bitcoin offer. You now have nothing to lose.
i shouldn't reply to you anymore but i'm going to anyway,,
you said " I personally know the guy making the offer. I can vouch for him. Calling him a conman is a cop out."
Yes, I fully believe he is a conman, you are being conned. (or other things..)
you said " If you've got a legit proof, give it to me and I'll take it to him. I'm only interested in the truth. I'm not married to either side of the argument, despite the fact that the score is like 287 to 0 right now."
there is plenty of proof out on the interwebs since he has denied 287 people to claim the prize, this further reinforces my belief that he is a connman. and yes you are married to one side, that is obvious.
you said "I'm willing to change my mind but it appears you don't share the same sentiment. Which is it? Are you more interested in the truth or in defending the globe?
I don't believe you are actually willing to change your mind. and I am not Interested in Defending the Truth, that the earth is a Globe, I said that from the very onset, remember in my very first post, i said that I have found it pointless to argue against them.. I am not interested in changing your mind, I don't care. You are wrong, and if you want to continue to believe wrong things and be conned, that is on you. I also don't care about your opinions or "facts" as to why you think the earth is Flat, I don't care about this idiot dangling 3 bitcoins. Your language is very typical of leftists, by trying to appeal about how "open minded" you are, and by counter, how "Closed minded" I am without explicitly stating so. you are using leftist tactics. I will keep my assumptions about what I think you are to myself thou.
You said "You say you've got the proof that ends the FE movement. Great. I'll keep all the money and you can smile in the background knowing it was your proof that killed it if that's the way you'd like to do it."
I have said no such thing, I have not said that I have proof that ends the FE movement. I specifically said that Any proof offered is rejected by FE's, they cannot THINK. they cannot do simple experiments, they cannot follow hypotheticals either.... That being said, I will offer this.. I HAVE done videos showing how easy it is to disprove that the earth is flat, but I will not be offering any of those up. I have no intention of Doxxing myself. I will also point out.. it is very EASY to prove that the earth is NOT FLAT... it is HARDER to prove that it is round, but not impossible.. it involves measuring the distance to the moon (which you can do at home) and also involves measuring phases and times between.., and measuring the distance to venus.. which you can also do at home, from there you can get the sun distance, and diameter (guess what it's HUGE and far..) all these measurements destroys flat earth, but more importantly will determine that the only shape of the earth that works with those measurements is a Round one, and you can get a measurable radius of the earth... all of this was done Hundreds of years ago if not thousands, with crude instruments. btw, and I will give you this Eratosthenes did not actually prove that the earth is round, he simply measured the size.. a MODFIED version of Eratosthenes experiment can prove that the earth is round, where you use 3 or More rulers, scattered across the earth, where you measure both the length, and vector of the shadow, will demonstrate that the earth is round, and you can also calculate the radius . No I am not interested in doing any of these experiments with you. maybe in the future I will make another video on this, but it won't be for awhile because I am not that interested, and I am not that interested in doxxing myself. I am not interested in falling for that conmans bait either.
Another one,, a simple SHIP's gyrocompass does NOT work on a non rotating earth, , a ship gyrocompass is not the same as a simple aircraft gyrocompass.
A ship's gyrocompass,, which are HUGE and bulky, rely on the earths rotation in order to show the proper heading, I have tried to explain this to flat earthers before, but they don't understand how those compasses work. they mistake them for aircraft heading indicators, they do not understand the physics behind any of it, it is an uphill battle to explain it, even after showing graphical videos describing their function, they still think the earth doesn't rotate.
you said "I know Dave Weiss and I know he's good for the 3 bitcoin offer. You now have nothing to lose"
that offer is a joke., any and all FE proof offered to him, he won't understand, and he will reject, or he is a conman, my money is on the latter.. in which case he will only change his mind when it is convenient, or never.
I'm going to leave you to your beliefs. If you don't understand that these instruments were designed to feign a "globe earth", then that's that. You're thinking along the same lines as people who claim "GPS proves the globe", who are unaware that GPS is a man-made system designed to fake the globe. Magnetic declination is not real. It's a fraud to stretch the plane onto a sphere. Pretty slick, eh?
We're looking for a proof that's scientifically repeatable and irrefutable. There should be thousands of these. But there are none.
All the distances and measurements you're talking about you take on faith from the Freemasons and Jesuit priests who invented them out of thin air. Nothing is as it seems and not a one of these deceivers is providing us even a whiff of truthful information. They created NASA. They are NASA. And NASA has told us nothing but lies since their inception. Same goes for the hundreds of years before.
The bottom line is we can see way too far my friend. We have the telescopic lenses today that disprove the alleged radius and circumference of the globe. With the distances we can see, you would have to multiply current values by nearly 100x for the globe to be possible. And a 2.5 million mile circumference clearly isn't possible. So this is game over the globe.
There's nothing to argue about. You can invoke man-made measurements, distances and instruments all you like, but none of them account for the fact that we can use our own eyeballs with telescopic lenses and see way beyond the mythical 3-6 mile "curvature" that simply doesn't exist. The 3-6 mile distance is the limits of human perception based on atmospheric conditions, not the "curvature of the earth". And there are literally thousands of videos and images online today that prove it. And you can go out and get your own high-powered camera or telescope and see for yourself. So we don't need any "experts" to weigh-in or any complex explanations that only an anointed few can comprehend. The layperson can see for themselves with their own eyes today. And this, is simply irrefutable now. There's nothing to argue about.
no no no. why are you bringing up GPS? no one brought up GPS? comparing GPS to a SHIPS GYRO COMPASS is like comparing a Slide rule to a computer, Do you think Slide rules are faked too? What happened to being open minded? Magnetic declination has NOTHING to do with A Ship GyroCompass, a Ship GYRO compass only points Truth north, it is NOT effected by magnetism at all. No one mentioned magnetic declination, in fact your statements show you don't know what the hell you are talking about
what happened to your open mindedness? a Ship's Gyro Compass will literally ONLY WORK on a rotating spherical earth. It contains NO computers, NO electronics of any kind besides a simple motor.. IT is a Large spinning wheel (a gryo) in a cage, with a small weight on the bottom, They have been in existence since 1852, and on Ships in the early 1900's, Nobody designing these things thought about "how can we fool them about the flath earth", the designs are there for everyone to see, and they work through the beauty of physics. the same immutable physics that every machine on the planet works with, the same that allow your car to go, your bike to roll, your helicopter to fly, everything, Physics given to us by God if you want to put it that way.
the same basic principals allow that Ship's Gyro compass to Always point True north, through purely mechanical means, but means that ONLY work on a rotating round earth. 1000's and 1000's of these compasses have been made, all operating perfectly on a round ocean, with no computers in sight. It is a Practical invention that has been used in navigation for Hundreds of years, are these sailors all liars too?
Your argument that these have been made to "feign" round earth is laughable, and it goes back to my original conclusion, flat earthers Can't Think. they Can't reason, they can't hypothesis, they aren't worth arguing too They don't want to think. educate yourself https://www.britannica.com/technology/gyrocompass
btw, i'm leaning towards you just being a troll, i'm annoyed at myself for getting caught up in this crap, i wanted to do some Skyrim VR last night. all the other stuff you said about telescopes and 3-6 mile distances is too easy to disprove, and is laughable, so i'm not getting into it. FOCUS on the Gyro compass.. i was hoping you would come up with something Clever about it, but you failed, if you aren't a Troll, i'm just sad.. thou a Ship's Gryo compass is basically Irrefutable proof, however that requires an understanding of how they work, which you don't have,
why don't you bring this up with that 3 bit conman? maybe you can spend a few days figuring out a rebuttle that actually makes partial sense. I know that a Ship's Gryo compass has never been brought up in flat earth discussions before, it completely destroys FE. it is just too complicated for FE's to understand thou
btw, if your "Friend" was honest, the proper way to offer a prize like that, is to do the following, 1, put the money in escrow with a 3rd independent party, agreed upon by BOTH parties, 2, write a contract with a set of rules as to what justifies PROOF, for example if " the results of "Such and such experiment provide a certain result, (or a series of experiments) provide such and such results, then that constitutes as PROOF, or if the experiment fails then it constitutes non proof.. again.. These experiments and results would have to BOTH be agreed upon by both parties. the 3rd party would be in charge of declaring if the experiment failed or not., in fact a 3rd party would have to DO the experiment(s)
as an example experiment, I can predict which direction a Gyro compass will precess in the northern hemisphere, and the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere, and if it fails then I lose, , again a LOT of agreeing between both parties about what type of compass is used, and the exact details of how the experiment is carried out, etc
your friend would never agree to any of this and neither would you, you badgered me for irrefutable proof, , and frankly there it is, an Old Ship's Gyro compass an invention that has been around for well over a 100 years, and absolutely will never work on a flat earth, and only work on a rotating round earth. your response to this claim is exactly what i expected, you're now backing away, and trying to cloud the concept with GPS and magnetism, and freemasonry none of which have to do with a very analog ships gyro compass.
as far as measuring distances? i was talking about starting completely from scratch.. you can with complex geometry (and time) measure the distance to the moon,, and to the sun, and to venus without assuming ANY pre known distances or any assumptions whatsoever. it is MATH, and Geometry. I know how to do it, so no, there isn't any pre-assumed distances from freemasons or priests, that's garbage. you Can measure the distance to the moon, without lasers or computers, you CAN measure the distance to venus (and the sun) without lasers or radar, , there are ways to do it with nothing more than a protractor, and math, and time. without any "pre known" distances
also "annointed few??" , this is like basic highschool stuff... I love how you wallow in and are so proud of your ignorance
Actually I want to add on to the gyro compass thought. After thinking about it, this device will not operate at all on a flat earth, it will only operate correctly on a rotating round earth, there is a slight compensation that has to be engineered into the machine in order for it to be accurate in the northern hemisphere and the Southern hemisphere. There is not a flat earther alive that would understand it, even if I went into painfully long explantations with graphs and pictures, and the simple fact that you can easily look up how they work online. But if you really wanted to collect that 3 Bitcoins, be my guest. Try to show him how one works, research it yourself, it is a device that will literally only work on a spherical earth, and ships have them, and they do work.
Awe, insults are the refuge of the low thinkers
It was more of an Observation, than an Insult