Thanks, I did look at it and you are right he did get right up. How do I explain this? I can't. I did have a friend who broke his back in a catastrophic car accident. My other friend was knocked unconscious. Yet, Bob got out of the car and carried an unconscious Roy 20 feet or so to safety as the Corvair was on fire. How did he possibly do this? I don't know, but this was the police report. All I can assume is, Adrenalin?, or whatever it was, can do so pretty amazing things. I also know from experience, a broken spine is not to be moved, but stabilized. This player stood up and perhaps that's when the damage occurred. It's odd that he was able to stand up, but then again I've seen pretty odd events too.