People died of heart problems before the vax all the freakin time.
This is a true statement - but ask yourself "How often does a 24-yr-old athlete in perfect condition just 'drop' like that?"
How many times in the last ten years have we seen this in the NFL? Is this a rare occurrence? And if so, what 'new' variable has been introduced that likely contributed?
So, yes, heart problems happen, but if we are rational, we are good at identifying patterns --- as well as divergences from those patterns.
Healthy young people don't 'drop' often. So you look for the new variable.
I disagree with anyone who says it must be the vaxx, but I also disagree with anyone who thinks there is 'no reason to suspect it'.
So unless someone can provide dozens of videos of NFL players keeling over to show it's 'very common', it is perfectly rational to make a vaxx-link --- and then actively investigate to see if the link is valid.
Just because someone dies of a heart attack is irrelevant, when have athletes dropped dead on the field. I am 58 i have never seen it in my life.
Here in the UK they are stopping games of Premier league football because fans are dying in the stands. I was a season ticket holder at Liverpool for 15 years . Never happened
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It happened to Hank Gathers at Loyola Maramount college in like 1990ish. But for my entire life this is been the single case of such a tragedy and was relatively well known because it was the only case. And his condition was known about just not under control IIRC.
at this stage would we trust anything that they came up with to prove their theory? These fucks chopped up JFK's head post-mortem to hide evidence, I'm sure they could do whatever they need to here to make up some bullshit.
So as long as its your family releasing your medical records its cool? ... No dipwad YOU are the only person who should be able to release your medical records. Theyre YOURS after all, not your family's.
All the $ in the world wont undo what already happened, and releasing medical records doesnt do shit to make him healthier.
You might be right on the flu vaccine, but I must admit that seems a little far fetched. Wouldn't that imply an awfully massive conspiracy?
I'm not strongly anti-vax and I've been vaccinated for all kinds of crap. I've also experienced adverse reactions from a vaccination. I'm pretty convinced that a chicken pox vaccine caused me to contract shingles. I didn't get the covid vax at first because I didn't trust how it was rushed out, and then as the covidians went insane with their vax passport mania shit I resisted getting vaxxed because I didn't like being coerced. But I've gotten vaxxed for tetanus and the flu and I don't even know what all. Got a doctor I trust who strongly suggested this years flu vax so I got it. He doesn't try to push me into getting the covid vax either.
I guess basically I'm in the people need to be free to make their own decisions about their healthcare camp. And I kind of hope the covidians don't all die of blood clots because most of the people I know got it.
This is a true statement - but ask yourself "How often does a 24-yr-old athlete in perfect condition just 'drop' like that?"
How many times in the last ten years have we seen this in the NFL? Is this a rare occurrence? And if so, what 'new' variable has been introduced that likely contributed?
So, yes, heart problems happen, but if we are rational, we are good at identifying patterns --- as well as divergences from those patterns.
Healthy young people don't 'drop' often. So you look for the new variable.
I disagree with anyone who says it must be the vaxx, but I also disagree with anyone who thinks there is 'no reason to suspect it'.
So unless someone can provide dozens of videos of NFL players keeling over to show it's 'very common', it is perfectly rational to make a vaxx-link --- and then actively investigate to see if the link is valid.
That's the scientific method.
Just because someone dies of a heart attack is irrelevant, when have athletes dropped dead on the field. I am 58 i have never seen it in my life. Here in the UK they are stopping games of Premier league football because fans are dying in the stands. I was a season ticket holder at Liverpool for 15 years . Never happened .
It happened to Hank Gathers at Loyola Maramount college in like 1990ish. But for my entire life this is been the single case of such a tragedy and was relatively well known because it was the only case. And his condition was known about just not under control IIRC.
Not often. But I do recall hearing of some cases typically related to some congenital defect that went undetected.
I don't disagree with you. I would just like to see more direct evidence that the vax caused this before reaching a conclusion.
Agreed. But you can never get direct evidence unless you investigate. And you'll never investigate unless you propose a link.
Unlike Fauci, this is science.
Statistics ARE evidence....
Simple. Show pics of blood vessels then. There were tests done and arteriograms or CT scans are simple enough. Then everyone will settle down.
at this stage would we trust anything that they came up with to prove their theory? These fucks chopped up JFK's head post-mortem to hide evidence, I'm sure they could do whatever they need to here to make up some bullshit.
Thats the most retarded thing. Do you want them releasing your medical history to the world? No? Something something setting precedent
The family can. I'm sure despite the $ that will be thrown at them to silence them, they'd rather have thos young man alive and HEALTHY.
So as long as its your family releasing your medical records its cool? ... No dipwad YOU are the only person who should be able to release your medical records. Theyre YOURS after all, not your family's.
All the $ in the world wont undo what already happened, and releasing medical records doesnt do shit to make him healthier.
You might be right on the flu vaccine, but I must admit that seems a little far fetched. Wouldn't that imply an awfully massive conspiracy?
I'm not strongly anti-vax and I've been vaccinated for all kinds of crap. I've also experienced adverse reactions from a vaccination. I'm pretty convinced that a chicken pox vaccine caused me to contract shingles. I didn't get the covid vax at first because I didn't trust how it was rushed out, and then as the covidians went insane with their vax passport mania shit I resisted getting vaxxed because I didn't like being coerced. But I've gotten vaxxed for tetanus and the flu and I don't even know what all. Got a doctor I trust who strongly suggested this years flu vax so I got it. He doesn't try to push me into getting the covid vax either.
I guess basically I'm in the people need to be free to make their own decisions about their healthcare camp. And I kind of hope the covidians don't all die of blood clots because most of the people I know got it.
Yes.