I have yet to see a flat earth theory that is as simple or compelling as a basic introduction to orbital mechanics.
I do think that there are mysteries to this Earth and places kept hidden from us, the scale of which we can only speculate. But the theory that we exist on a flat plane is too large of a conspiracy, with too much evidence to the contrary, for me to accept.
I don't live on the equator. So the framing of your experiment would only appear to be valid to idiots.
But let's say I did. I now live in Pontianak, West Kalimantan, Indonesia. A location known for being positioned almost exactly on the equator. The date is June 21st, the summer solstice.
The sun rises at 5:41am and sets at 5:48pm, almost exactly 12 hours. From my perspective the sun would "travel" approximately 45 degrees every 3 hours, from sunup to sundown.
The sun's position that day at noon would be almost identical to it's position 24 hours later. From a positional standpoint, this is true of any time of any location, so I'm not sure how the sun doesn't "have time" to reach a similar position from any given perspective every 24hrs, or 360 degrees.
Now, I am on the equator the length of day (max daylight) on Dec 21st, the winter solstice, would still be 12 hours. Sunrise being 5:37am and sunset, 5:44pm. The observable path of the sun, and the time it takes to "travel" across the sky is still 12hrs, 3hrs for every quarter of 180 degrees.
The farther north or south you are from the equator the more your perspective from the almost perfect 12hr cycle will deviate. Equator deriving it's name from "equal". These deviations are also responsible for seasons and their intensity depending on their distance from the equator, elevation and other geographical factors.
Being so far north, this is why the sun will rise in Juneau, Alaska at 3:51am and set at 10:08pm on June 21st, making for an almost 18hr period of daylight and conversely, a 6hr period of daylight on Dec 21st.
Thank you for explaining this. It won't make a stick of difference to those who are pushing the flat earth idea but it might be helpful or interesting to others.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that these things aren't being taught in schools anymore. I recognize that a lot of people have neither the time nor the inclination to actually go out and watch the sky, to see how it changes over the year.
The inability of flat earthers to explain the 24-hour day at the South Pole is what killed it for me. "The video is fake. They won't let us go there" arguments are pointless. Just check out sunrise and sunset times at any point far south, say in Tierra del Fuego or Tasmania.
I have yet to see a flat earth theory that is as simple or compelling as a basic introduction to orbital mechanics.
I do think that there are mysteries to this Earth and places kept hidden from us, the scale of which we can only speculate. But the theory that we exist on a flat plane is too large of a conspiracy, with too much evidence to the contrary, for me to accept.
Sun travels 360 degrees around your location at a constant speed every 24 hours.
Therefore, the sun travels 45 degrees every 3 hours.
Starting at noon tomorrow (do again in summer) Time 3 hours and using a protractor, find out how many degrees the sun travelled.
You can report back here if you think the sun has enough time to get back around to you in the morning.
The timing is off if you want the Coles Notes. Your sun is not travelling fast enough.
I don't live on the equator. So the framing of your experiment would only appear to be valid to idiots.
But let's say I did. I now live in Pontianak, West Kalimantan, Indonesia. A location known for being positioned almost exactly on the equator. The date is June 21st, the summer solstice.
The sun rises at 5:41am and sets at 5:48pm, almost exactly 12 hours. From my perspective the sun would "travel" approximately 45 degrees every 3 hours, from sunup to sundown.
The sun's position that day at noon would be almost identical to it's position 24 hours later. From a positional standpoint, this is true of any time of any location, so I'm not sure how the sun doesn't "have time" to reach a similar position from any given perspective every 24hrs, or 360 degrees.
Now, I am on the equator the length of day (max daylight) on Dec 21st, the winter solstice, would still be 12 hours. Sunrise being 5:37am and sunset, 5:44pm. The observable path of the sun, and the time it takes to "travel" across the sky is still 12hrs, 3hrs for every quarter of 180 degrees.
The farther north or south you are from the equator the more your perspective from the almost perfect 12hr cycle will deviate. Equator deriving it's name from "equal". These deviations are also responsible for seasons and their intensity depending on their distance from the equator, elevation and other geographical factors.
Being so far north, this is why the sun will rise in Juneau, Alaska at 3:51am and set at 10:08pm on June 21st, making for an almost 18hr period of daylight and conversely, a 6hr period of daylight on Dec 21st.
Thank you for explaining this. It won't make a stick of difference to those who are pushing the flat earth idea but it might be helpful or interesting to others.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that these things aren't being taught in schools anymore. I recognize that a lot of people have neither the time nor the inclination to actually go out and watch the sky, to see how it changes over the year.
The inability of flat earthers to explain the 24-hour day at the South Pole is what killed it for me. "The video is fake. They won't let us go there" arguments are pointless. Just check out sunrise and sunset times at any point far south, say in Tierra del Fuego or Tasmania.
Or Canada, FFS