The historical evidence of the mass murder called the Holocaust is pretty overwhelming and difficult to repudiate. It is often times attacked and wild conspiracy theories abound. While it is true that the actual number of Jews that were killed is difficult to track due to destruction of many of the deathcamp records. Enough of the records were located to give an idea of the magnitude of the death toll (Germans are thorough and meticulous record keepers). By itself, this could be contested, however personal correspondence, diaries, survivor accounts (including non-jews) and eye witness reports of both Russian and English/US soldiers, spies and informants begins to build a highly complicated conspiracy theory with so many players that it begins to be ludicrous. I can see how influence could be used to alter some stories, but Gypsies and Jehovah's witnesses were among the massacred and the survivors. It would seem feasible to convince some folks through bribery, extortion or threats, however the Gypsies and Witnesses are not known for going along with other people's plans. They are quite separate from the rest of society. I don't know about the Gypsy world community, but the Jehovah Witnesses were spreading the word within their own people around the world. These two groups of people would be practically impossible to get to go along with any conspiracy theories and spreading disinformation. The issue is that both of these groups live in their own society, regardless of what country they happen to be in. They choose to keep their own morality and ethics and reject all the local culture that does not confirm to their beliefs. A large number of Witnesses survived and were not exterminated, possibly because it was punitive due to non conformance rather than genetic. I can't think of anyone that can argue that the Nazi foundation wasn't based on racial superiority and eugenics was a natural extension of that belief. Waiting for sterilization and the natural dying off of inferior ethnicities didn't seem to fit the Nazi personality qualities, so extermination seems not only likely, but practically guaranteed. Virtually every Holocaust argument that claims it didn't happen or it was far less gruesome than it actually was is almost always founded on a grandiose anti-semitic conspiracy theory that refuses to look at any evidence and have wrapped their minds into a loop of cognitive dissonance.
I'm worst sort of human. Despised by both the anti-semites and the jews. Because whether the holocaust happened or not, whether numbers were inflated or actually underreported, it none of it changes the way things are NOW.
It's not that it didn't or doesn't matter. It's that it does not apply. Same for Mao and the great leap forward. We have other problems, and trying to decipher the past doesn't help with the present.
I would have to disagree with your assessment of history. I firmly believe that understanding our past can guide our future. It is foolish to keep making the same mistakes over and over because you have forgotten your past and lost what was successful and what was a failure. I am not saying we should relive the experiences, I am saying we need to learn what happened, why it happened, what enables it to occur and what worked or didn't work. Even conjecture as to what steps could've been taken to have prevented it from happening in the future. The most basic premise from the rise of Nazism was a huge divide between the have's and the have nots. After the disastrous Weimar Republic and its loss in WWI, the reparations placed such a massive financial strain that the deutch mark collapsed. As bad as the Depression was for the US, it was far worse in Germany. This allowed the promises of Socialism to rise to popularity and power and evolve into the Totalitarian dictatorship the National Socialist Workers Party (Nazi) turned into. This particular warning rings true with the possible complete collapse of the US dollar and the overwhelming debt we have already. We have to be very cautious to not fall victim to the same trap of utopian Socialism that the younger generations think so fondly of. The simple fact that the newer generations have banded together and supported the Anti-fascists and Socialists against what they call Nazi's. The very fact that they don't realize they are following the exact path of the Brown shirts in Germany and the Blackshirts in Italy and fail to realize the Nazi's and Fascists were Socialist economic systems.
The simple answer is that they didn't burn all the bodies. They didn't even burn most of them. Most were placed in earthen pits and covered. The pictures of the mass graves were the ones they were still actively using when the camps were overrun by either Soviet our US forces. These are the pictures you see publicised. There are also subsequent excavations of mass graves that uncovered many more bodies, none were burned. I imagine if they started burning them, they probably stopped towards the end of the war because of the aforementioned rationing.
When you fail to even look at the overwhelming evidence, you are simply not doing yourself any credit. Do your own research and make up your own mind, not simply just crackpot revisionist history websites. Read the translated trial testimony of the actual officers and guards. Read the confessionals for the Nazi members that guarded the perimeter and the medical experimentation that although was a leap in medical science, was inhuman and demonic. We didn't scramble to obtain those scientists and doctors for make believe advances in medicine. The cost of that advancement was human lives. Denying the murders during the Holocaust is almost impossible for me to imagine, perhaps it is because I actually studied the history from the first hand accounts and not some textbook. Textbooks are typically broad stroked and highly simplified. I hope that you have at least read those. What tangible evidence can you provide that negates millions of people being gassed, shot, hanged, starved, experimented on and guillotined?
There wasn't physically enough time to burn 20 million jews or whatever
The gas chambers are demonstrably false, the Sarin gas would have been highly explosive and the chamber would have been an absolutely inaccessible hazmat site, AND the rooms lacked any ventilation
Hitler lacked motive. Sure he wanted them to move but no one has the time for all that ethnic cleansing in the middle of a war.
Global Cabalists had plenty motive for faking it and they are definitely guilty of parading around their fake stats 24/7, with the holocaust numbers only becoming more and more exaggerated. There are news sites I have screenshots of gradually INCREASING the number of holocaust survivors over the years.
The Jewish faith has been taken over by Satan, the deceiver, and as such it is nothing but a weapon of deception. There are tons of well-meaning Jewish people, but their leadership is rotten to the core.
I don't believe the Holocaust was real. But I fucking wish it was. Pieces of shit damn near took over the whole goddamn world. Russia should have taken out the Khazars when they had the chance.
How the fuck can you claim to have studied it through firsthand accounts? How fucking pompous of a lie is that? You interviewed Holocaust survivors? Get the fuck outta here.
There were not 20 million Jews killed during the Holocaust. The most common number cited was 6 million over the course of 6 years.
I haven't heard of Sarin gas being used. I have heard of carbon monoxide being used.
Haven't you read Mein Kampf? Hitler hated the Jews and regarded them as less than human. The entire Nazi party was brainwashed into hating all inferior ethnicities, but Jews most of all. The Jews had wealth and prominence. The Nazi caches of art and treasures were confiscated in large part from the Jews. Are you actually saying that people don't have time for ethnic cleansing during war??? Thati s probably one of the most ignorant things I have ever read on this forum. I was involved in Bosnia in 1998, I was in Iraq in 2004 and 2008. The mass graves found in both of those countries would suggest that war is the primary time for ethnic cleansing and genocide.
Inaccuracies relating to accounts do not invalidate the historical event. Virtually all numbers are estimates, because there is no perfect body count, this isn't a video game.
All governments and upper echelons of virtually every organization is rotten. Charities, churches, governments, and the bigger the organization, the more corrupt they become.
The simple fact that you blame an entire ethnic population for any one thing in the world is simplistic, ignorant and childish. If you haven't figured this out yet, you are still under the spell of divide and conquer. This has been about a self appointed group of very rich and powerful people of all ethnicities and nationalities throughout the centuries controlling the thoughts, deeds and actions of entire nations and sometimes most of the world.
Firsthand accounts are diaries, testimony from people verified to be there, witnesses and personal correspondence. The fact that I have to explain such a simple concept should be a clear indicator that you may need to read and study more before you adhere to such an extreme ideology of blaming an ethnicity for the sins of a few.
Taken from a different angle, prove to me or to yourself with research and corroborating evidence that all Ethnic Germans were murderers and villains during the rise of the Nazi party and the subsequent chaos brought to Europe. If you believe that not all Germans were evil, why is it you cannot believe that of another ethnicity? What is your definition of Khazarian Jews? Are you of the belief that they aren't an ethnicity? Do you believe that it is simply another secret society filled with volunteer members?
My point is: to blame an ethnicity for the actions of some is something that you should recognize is a faulty mental process and should require deep thought and contemplation. In the end, you have to live with your own convictions.
The historical evidence of the mass murder called the Holocaust is pretty overwhelming and difficult to repudiate. It is often times attacked and wild conspiracy theories abound. While it is true that the actual number of Jews that were killed is difficult to track due to destruction of many of the deathcamp records. Enough of the records were located to give an idea of the magnitude of the death toll (Germans are thorough and meticulous record keepers). By itself, this could be contested, however personal correspondence, diaries, survivor accounts (including non-jews) and eye witness reports of both Russian and English/US soldiers, spies and informants begins to build a highly complicated conspiracy theory with so many players that it begins to be ludicrous. I can see how influence could be used to alter some stories, but Gypsies and Jehovah's witnesses were among the massacred and the survivors. It would seem feasible to convince some folks through bribery, extortion or threats, however the Gypsies and Witnesses are not known for going along with other people's plans. They are quite separate from the rest of society. I don't know about the Gypsy world community, but the Jehovah Witnesses were spreading the word within their own people around the world. These two groups of people would be practically impossible to get to go along with any conspiracy theories and spreading disinformation. The issue is that both of these groups live in their own society, regardless of what country they happen to be in. They choose to keep their own morality and ethics and reject all the local culture that does not confirm to their beliefs. A large number of Witnesses survived and were not exterminated, possibly because it was punitive due to non conformance rather than genetic. I can't think of anyone that can argue that the Nazi foundation wasn't based on racial superiority and eugenics was a natural extension of that belief. Waiting for sterilization and the natural dying off of inferior ethnicities didn't seem to fit the Nazi personality qualities, so extermination seems not only likely, but practically guaranteed. Virtually every Holocaust argument that claims it didn't happen or it was far less gruesome than it actually was is almost always founded on a grandiose anti-semitic conspiracy theory that refuses to look at any evidence and have wrapped their minds into a loop of cognitive dissonance.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-persecution-of-jehovahs-witnesses
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jehovah-s-witnesses-in-the-holocaust
https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/categories-of-prisoners/jehovahs-witnesses/
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/genocide-of-european-roma-gypsies-1939-1945
https://www.thoughtco.com/gypsies-and-the-holocaust-1779660
https://www.businessinsider.com/percentage-of-countries-who-died-during-wwii-2014-5
I'm worst sort of human. Despised by both the anti-semites and the jews. Because whether the holocaust happened or not, whether numbers were inflated or actually underreported, it none of it changes the way things are NOW.
It's not that it didn't or doesn't matter. It's that it does not apply. Same for Mao and the great leap forward. We have other problems, and trying to decipher the past doesn't help with the present.
I would have to disagree with your assessment of history. I firmly believe that understanding our past can guide our future. It is foolish to keep making the same mistakes over and over because you have forgotten your past and lost what was successful and what was a failure. I am not saying we should relive the experiences, I am saying we need to learn what happened, why it happened, what enables it to occur and what worked or didn't work. Even conjecture as to what steps could've been taken to have prevented it from happening in the future. The most basic premise from the rise of Nazism was a huge divide between the have's and the have nots. After the disastrous Weimar Republic and its loss in WWI, the reparations placed such a massive financial strain that the deutch mark collapsed. As bad as the Depression was for the US, it was far worse in Germany. This allowed the promises of Socialism to rise to popularity and power and evolve into the Totalitarian dictatorship the National Socialist Workers Party (Nazi) turned into. This particular warning rings true with the possible complete collapse of the US dollar and the overwhelming debt we have already. We have to be very cautious to not fall victim to the same trap of utopian Socialism that the younger generations think so fondly of. The simple fact that the newer generations have banded together and supported the Anti-fascists and Socialists against what they call Nazi's. The very fact that they don't realize they are following the exact path of the Brown shirts in Germany and the Blackshirts in Italy and fail to realize the Nazi's and Fascists were Socialist economic systems.
The simple answer is that they didn't burn all the bodies. They didn't even burn most of them. Most were placed in earthen pits and covered. The pictures of the mass graves were the ones they were still actively using when the camps were overrun by either Soviet our US forces. These are the pictures you see publicised. There are also subsequent excavations of mass graves that uncovered many more bodies, none were burned. I imagine if they started burning them, they probably stopped towards the end of the war because of the aforementioned rationing.
The shills really coming out of the woodwork on this one. Cope and seethe, no one believes in your fake holocaust anymore
When you fail to even look at the overwhelming evidence, you are simply not doing yourself any credit. Do your own research and make up your own mind, not simply just crackpot revisionist history websites. Read the translated trial testimony of the actual officers and guards. Read the confessionals for the Nazi members that guarded the perimeter and the medical experimentation that although was a leap in medical science, was inhuman and demonic. We didn't scramble to obtain those scientists and doctors for make believe advances in medicine. The cost of that advancement was human lives. Denying the murders during the Holocaust is almost impossible for me to imagine, perhaps it is because I actually studied the history from the first hand accounts and not some textbook. Textbooks are typically broad stroked and highly simplified. I hope that you have at least read those. What tangible evidence can you provide that negates millions of people being gassed, shot, hanged, starved, experimented on and guillotined?
There wasn't physically enough time to burn 20 million jews or whatever
The gas chambers are demonstrably false, the Sarin gas would have been highly explosive and the chamber would have been an absolutely inaccessible hazmat site, AND the rooms lacked any ventilation
Hitler lacked motive. Sure he wanted them to move but no one has the time for all that ethnic cleansing in the middle of a war.
Global Cabalists had plenty motive for faking it and they are definitely guilty of parading around their fake stats 24/7, with the holocaust numbers only becoming more and more exaggerated. There are news sites I have screenshots of gradually INCREASING the number of holocaust survivors over the years.
The Jewish faith has been taken over by Satan, the deceiver, and as such it is nothing but a weapon of deception. There are tons of well-meaning Jewish people, but their leadership is rotten to the core.
I don't believe the Holocaust was real. But I fucking wish it was. Pieces of shit damn near took over the whole goddamn world. Russia should have taken out the Khazars when they had the chance.
How the fuck can you claim to have studied it through firsthand accounts? How fucking pompous of a lie is that? You interviewed Holocaust survivors? Get the fuck outta here.
Taken from a different angle, prove to me or to yourself with research and corroborating evidence that all Ethnic Germans were murderers and villains during the rise of the Nazi party and the subsequent chaos brought to Europe. If you believe that not all Germans were evil, why is it you cannot believe that of another ethnicity? What is your definition of Khazarian Jews? Are you of the belief that they aren't an ethnicity? Do you believe that it is simply another secret society filled with volunteer members?
My point is: to blame an ethnicity for the actions of some is something that you should recognize is a faulty mental process and should require deep thought and contemplation. In the end, you have to live with your own convictions.