The sight of the train wreckage in East Palestine is not on the Ohio River as depicted above. That's actually a good thing. East Palestine is 40 miles outside of Pittsburgh and 15 miles north of the river. Vinyl chloride boils at 8 degrees Fahrenheit. This means it is turning into a gaseous state. Most of it was burned in the conflagration. Burning vinyl chloride would disassociate it into H2, C, and HCL and moisture in the air would create hydrochloric acid. Phosphene (COCl2) is another gas that's created from burning chemicals like this. This is obviously horrifying.
It's not ever a good situation for "accidents" like this to occur. I'd be really concerned with the people living down wind from this. Someone should post the wind direction and speed from the February 3rd event and after to see where this toxic cloud went. Pittsburgh is SW of East Palestine. I suspect the wind direction this time of year would make Pittsburgh a candidate to be in its path down wind.
Had this been a liquid toxic spill the ramifications to the water shed and the Ohio River would be in much greater jeopardy.
There were however other chemicals being transported and spilled. I don't know the quantities of these that were released into the environment. The vast amount of reporting in the news seems to be focused on vinyl chloride as being by far the largest factor. These other chemicals were all liquids, which could run off into the Ohio River basin contaminating the waters. The chemicals reported are Butyl acrylate has a 103 degree flash point. , Ethylhexyl acrylate has a 180 degree flash point , and Ethylene glycol monobutyl 143 degrees flash point. The question is how much of these were burned up in the fire?
That's a great link, but I didn't see where I could find previous dates like February 3rd and after. I suspect the winds blew from the NW to SE. If so, Pittsburgh was in the direct path.
They're not telling us..... and it seems they always think (wrongly) they know what's best for us.
I found a link that provides the wind direction history for Pittsburgh. I chose Pittsburgh because it is only 39 miles from East Palestine. The wind direction is provided here.
DAY 1. Wind direction NW to SE and changing to W to E. As you can see, throughout Feb. 3rd, the wind is coming from the North to Northwest for much of the day, but then shifts from a more Westerly direction at 8-9 PM.
DAY 4. Feb. 6. Appears to be swirling. Changing from W to E, to NW to SE, to W to E, to S to N, to SE to NW.
DAY 5. Feb. 7. SE to NW, to S to N, to SW to NE, to W to E.
I'll leave it at this point. Depending on when they ignited the cars, it would provide information on surrounding contamination. From this it appears the winds depending on the day was shifting in all directions. This indicates the winds carried these toxic clouds in almost all directions. The next question would be wind speeds. This would provide a rough estimate to how quickly and far the contamination traveled in a measured amount time.
What ever method is necessary is what we need. No longer can we expect our government to inform us. We must be the news. There is no truth in the news.
The sight of the train wreckage in East Palestine is not on the Ohio River as depicted above. That's actually a good thing. East Palestine is 40 miles outside of Pittsburgh and 15 miles north of the river. Vinyl chloride boils at 8 degrees Fahrenheit. This means it is turning into a gaseous state. Most of it was burned in the conflagration. Burning vinyl chloride would disassociate it into H2, C, and HCL and moisture in the air would create hydrochloric acid. Phosphene (COCl2) is another gas that's created from burning chemicals like this. This is obviously horrifying.
It's not ever a good situation for "accidents" like this to occur. I'd be really concerned with the people living down wind from this. Someone should post the wind direction and speed from the February 3rd event and after to see where this toxic cloud went. Pittsburgh is SW of East Palestine. I suspect the wind direction this time of year would make Pittsburgh a candidate to be in its path down wind.
Had this been a liquid toxic spill the ramifications to the water shed and the Ohio River would be in much greater jeopardy.
There were however other chemicals being transported and spilled. I don't know the quantities of these that were released into the environment. The vast amount of reporting in the news seems to be focused on vinyl chloride as being by far the largest factor. These other chemicals were all liquids, which could run off into the Ohio River basin contaminating the waters. The chemicals reported are Butyl acrylate has a 103 degree flash point. , Ethylhexyl acrylate has a 180 degree flash point , and Ethylene glycol monobutyl 143 degrees flash point. The question is how much of these were burned up in the fire?
That's a great link, but I didn't see where I could find previous dates like February 3rd and after. I suspect the winds blew from the NW to SE. If so, Pittsburgh was in the direct path.
Gee, one would think our government would figure out where the toxic cloud is traversing and broadcast it.
They're not telling us..... and it seems they always think (wrongly) they know what's best for us.
I found a link that provides the wind direction history for Pittsburgh. I chose Pittsburgh because it is only 39 miles from East Palestine. The wind direction is provided here.
DAY 1. Wind direction NW to SE and changing to W to E. As you can see, throughout Feb. 3rd, the wind is coming from the North to Northwest for much of the day, but then shifts from a more Westerly direction at 8-9 PM.
DAY 2 Changes to S to N. After 12 PM on Feb. 4th the direction continues to shift from Westerly to Southwesterly and by 4 AM the wind was from the South. That continues for the rest of the day.
DAY 3. Feb. 5. SW to NE and tapering to W to E.
DAY 4. Feb. 6. Appears to be swirling. Changing from W to E, to NW to SE, to W to E, to S to N, to SE to NW.
DAY 5. Feb. 7. SE to NW, to S to N, to SW to NE, to W to E.
I'll leave it at this point. Depending on when they ignited the cars, it would provide information on surrounding contamination. From this it appears the winds depending on the day was shifting in all directions. This indicates the winds carried these toxic clouds in almost all directions. The next question would be wind speeds. This would provide a rough estimate to how quickly and far the contamination traveled in a measured amount time.
And that’s probably surface winds. Only a sophisticated computer module can accurately predict the threat.
What ever method is necessary is what we need. No longer can we expect our government to inform us. We must be the news. There is no truth in the news.