Unfortunately, those who think the Earth is flat are either developmentally or educationally impaired, since there is no basis for such thinking---and that it has been disproven physically since the 1600s (been around, goes around). That and the fact that, since long ago, it has proved impossible to make an accurate map on the hypothesis that the Earth is flat. And there fore, Great Circle routes are the shortest distance between two points, map distortions to the contrary (airplanes are extremely sensitive to distance flown).
It's the ultimate in goal post moving with those tards and never can they explain "fine then, why is everything else in space obviously round but just the Earth flat? Why would God do that?"
Nobody addresses the fact that the roundness of Earth was physically demonstrated by Magellan's CIRCUMNAVIGATION. And repeatedly with every circumnavigation ever since, by sea, land, air, or outer space.
Ha. You have backpedaled and changed the subject. Magellan plotted his course by measurements of latitude and longitude. It was not a circle on a flat surface; it was a circumnavigation of a sphere. This was proved repeatedly by voyages in the 400 years since. And with airplane flights. And with orbital flights around the Earth. I don't know why you deny the occurrence of these facts.
You simply dip into your bucket of prejudice and pull out accusations. I happen to be a Christian: I do not "believe" in evolution; and I certainly do believe in a Creator. So, you are wrong, as wrong can be.
I have little sympathy, having spent my life in a career where circumnavigation of the globe is a factual industrial, commercial, and military activity. I have traveled halfway around the planet, and from pole to equator. You must have little experience of the physical world. Your "education" has failed you.
You don't seem to understand. The world is working just fine. There is no need to fix what is not broken. If you want peace, stop your compadres from insisting the world needs to be fixed, when all they have is a broken alternative.
No way of proving? Magellan did not sail? Nor did anyone else? No one traveled to all the continents and took astronomical sightings? The southern constellations can't be seen only from the southern hemisphere? People did not fly around the world and its poles? There were no satellites nor cosmonauts? No communication, weather, nor navigation satelllites (no GPS, no Starlink)? Do you really live on this planet, or are you just pretending?
There already is absolute proof of God. What more proof would you need than Christ's birth, death, and resurrection? What other proof would be availing? There is no Biblical doctrine of a flat Earth. The Bible speaks only of the lands of the Mediterranian Sea, the Middle East, and Africa. You are wrong to say there is no need of faith, for faith is what baptism endows us with, to be justified before God---but faith is not a belief by choice.
When you have nothing to say to dispute reality, you blather. You are with your playbook. Before there was NASA, there was a round Earth, known since before the birth of Christ and completely beneath his notice. Everything since then has affirmed the wonders of God's creation. You want to efface them with the banality of man's imagination.
As a matter of fact, I have 3 degrees in aeronautics and astronautics, and I know more about a spinning ball (the Earth) than you do. If you are going to come on like this, it is painfully obvious you don't know squat and are not prepared to prove anything with a calculation. And by the way, go to the southern hemisphere and see the stars you can't see from the northern hemisphere. Your problem is that you only believe stupidity on paper and refuse to look out the window, or travel around the world.
The moon and the earth both have the same light source right? The earth spinning the moon is not right? The tiny moon is caught in earth orbit right?
How does the tiny object flying rapidly around the rapidly spinning earth LIGHT PATTERN CHANGE VERY SLOWLY while the light pattern on earth is moving constantly?????
Take your time. Do experiments and computer models of you must.
Same light source. Both are rotating (the Moon's "day" is 30 days long). The Moon is in orbit around the Earth. So far, you are confused.
The Moon is not a "tiny" object; it is about 27% of the diameter of the Earth. The Moon takes 30 days to orbit the Earth, and we see it at different angles, relative to a fixed direction to the Sun. (The Earth takes 1 day to rotate under the Sun.) The lunar illumination angle varies at a rate of 360 degrees / 30 days = 12 degrees per day. This is well known and is easy to see demonstrated with an orrery.
Just to be clear, the Moon is not illuminated by sunlight reflected from the Earth; it is illuminated by the Sun. There is some light reflected from the Earth (Earthshine) and this can be seen as a faint illumination of the dark face of the Moon when the Moon is closer to the Sun than the Earth is. When the Moon is visible in the daytime sky, one can sometimes see a complete disk, where the part not illuminated by the Sun is lighter than the sky background (but not by much). (If there were no Earthshine, the dark portion of the Moon's image would be filled in by skyshine and there would be no visible edge.)
Is there a question about any of this? A grade-schooler would be familiar with this picture.
Unfortunately, those who think the Earth is flat are either developmentally or educationally impaired, since there is no basis for such thinking---and that it has been disproven physically since the 1600s (been around, goes around). That and the fact that, since long ago, it has proved impossible to make an accurate map on the hypothesis that the Earth is flat. And there fore, Great Circle routes are the shortest distance between two points, map distortions to the contrary (airplanes are extremely sensitive to distance flown).
It's the ultimate in goal post moving with those tards and never can they explain "fine then, why is everything else in space obviously round but just the Earth flat? Why would God do that?"
Nobody addresses the fact that the roundness of Earth was physically demonstrated by Magellan's CIRCUMNAVIGATION. And repeatedly with every circumnavigation ever since, by sea, land, air, or outer space.
Well you could just call it navigation. Also circles can be flat.
You think sailing around on the FLAT water proves you live on a prison planet that the globalists need you to believe in.
They also require you to believe that you evolved and there is no Creator.
Ha. You have backpedaled and changed the subject. Magellan plotted his course by measurements of latitude and longitude. It was not a circle on a flat surface; it was a circumnavigation of a sphere. This was proved repeatedly by voyages in the 400 years since. And with airplane flights. And with orbital flights around the Earth. I don't know why you deny the occurrence of these facts.
You simply dip into your bucket of prejudice and pull out accusations. I happen to be a Christian: I do not "believe" in evolution; and I certainly do believe in a Creator. So, you are wrong, as wrong can be.
I have little sympathy, having spent my life in a career where circumnavigation of the globe is a factual industrial, commercial, and military activity. I have traveled halfway around the planet, and from pole to equator. You must have little experience of the physical world. Your "education" has failed you.
You don't seem to understand. The world is working just fine. There is no need to fix what is not broken. If you want peace, stop your compadres from insisting the world needs to be fixed, when all they have is a broken alternative.
No way of proving? Magellan did not sail? Nor did anyone else? No one traveled to all the continents and took astronomical sightings? The southern constellations can't be seen only from the southern hemisphere? People did not fly around the world and its poles? There were no satellites nor cosmonauts? No communication, weather, nor navigation satelllites (no GPS, no Starlink)? Do you really live on this planet, or are you just pretending?
https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/16aTQeT7Mk/the-heavens-declare-the-glory-of/c
That was the post that got me suspended for a week.
There already is absolute proof of God. What more proof would you need than Christ's birth, death, and resurrection? What other proof would be availing? There is no Biblical doctrine of a flat Earth. The Bible speaks only of the lands of the Mediterranian Sea, the Middle East, and Africa. You are wrong to say there is no need of faith, for faith is what baptism endows us with, to be justified before God---but faith is not a belief by choice.
When you have nothing to say to dispute reality, you blather. You are with your playbook. Before there was NASA, there was a round Earth, known since before the birth of Christ and completely beneath his notice. Everything since then has affirmed the wonders of God's creation. You want to efface them with the banality of man's imagination.
As a matter of fact, I have 3 degrees in aeronautics and astronautics, and I know more about a spinning ball (the Earth) than you do. If you are going to come on like this, it is painfully obvious you don't know squat and are not prepared to prove anything with a calculation. And by the way, go to the southern hemisphere and see the stars you can't see from the northern hemisphere. Your problem is that you only believe stupidity on paper and refuse to look out the window, or travel around the world.
Glad we got all the fallacy and appeals to useless authority and expertise out of the way.
The moon and the earth both have the same light source right? The earth spinning the moon is not right? The tiny moon is caught in earth orbit right?
How does the tiny object flying rapidly around the rapidly spinning earth LIGHT PATTERN CHANGE VERY SLOWLY while the light pattern on earth is moving constantly?????
Take your time. Do experiments and computer models of you must.
Same light source. Both are rotating (the Moon's "day" is 30 days long). The Moon is in orbit around the Earth. So far, you are confused.
The Moon is not a "tiny" object; it is about 27% of the diameter of the Earth. The Moon takes 30 days to orbit the Earth, and we see it at different angles, relative to a fixed direction to the Sun. (The Earth takes 1 day to rotate under the Sun.) The lunar illumination angle varies at a rate of 360 degrees / 30 days = 12 degrees per day. This is well known and is easy to see demonstrated with an orrery.
Just to be clear, the Moon is not illuminated by sunlight reflected from the Earth; it is illuminated by the Sun. There is some light reflected from the Earth (Earthshine) and this can be seen as a faint illumination of the dark face of the Moon when the Moon is closer to the Sun than the Earth is. When the Moon is visible in the daytime sky, one can sometimes see a complete disk, where the part not illuminated by the Sun is lighter than the sky background (but not by much). (If there were no Earthshine, the dark portion of the Moon's image would be filled in by skyshine and there would be no visible edge.)
Is there a question about any of this? A grade-schooler would be familiar with this picture.
Which you appear to have no actual knowledge of then.
Hey maybe you're right. In a world where truth don't matter you can believe whatever makes you feel ok.
Boom. You have identified the poison. The 🪰 in the ointment.
He’s not right. He’s self righteous. I fucking hate lib talkin know-it-alls