There is no problem. You describe no problem. You wave your hands and claim there is a problem. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second. The Earth is standing still by comparison, but we can measure Doppler shifts to determine effects of relative velocity along the line of sight.
Centrifugal force is smaller than gravity, by a lot, but it is able to produce the oblateness causing the equatorial diameter to be greater than the polar diameter. We don't notice it, as I said, because it is too small to notice. I have done the calculation. It would be instructive (to you) to also perform that calculation. If you can. I find people who want to argue this are innumerate.
I don't understand your point about Enoch. A full Moon, of necessity, occurs on the opposite side of the Earth from the Sun. The Moon and the Sun are 180 degrees apart. It will necessarily rise when the Sun sets. Always. It is not a miraculous sign; it is a consequence of orbital geometry. Why do you fix on this? It is akin to making a point about why the sky is blue. So what?
No map can be presented on a flat surface (!) without significant distortion (unless the area mapped is so small as to be almost flat). The only fully accurate map would be that presented on a globe. We have always known that. That is one of the early proofs of the sphericity of the Earth, that large-scale maps cannot be faithfully rendered as a flat geometry.
Do the scriptures define the principles of geometry? Or of mathematics? Or of chemistry? Or of physics? Nevertheless, they are true and faithful. The Creation itself is the Word of God and we are enjoined to pay attention to it as well as to Scripture. And why would I have any trouble with Biblical creation? There is nothing in it that conflicts with what we see about us.
Well as a fellow Christian, lets put it this way. I never have to favor a scientific claim over the Word of God. If they are in opposition, I can trust God's Word and KNOW that the "science" is just "science so-called". Don't worry about translations and interpretations. I'm not declaring that every text claiming to be God's Word, necessarily is. We must test ALL things - including and especially the "science so-called" that is contrary to the Word.
You should read (first) Enoch and Jubilees, test those scriptures. And then decide whether you will continue to defend the spinning ball in your mind.
Enoch leaves no place for spinning ball theories. Once you KNOW, you'll start to understand how far down in a hole of deception you were placed by government education and a very long standing conspiracy.
There is no opposition. Some science is folly, of course, but everyday physics is true and correct. Tested by application, especially space flight. The Earth, as it is, explains what we see. Enoch and Jubilees add nothing to truth. If Enoch says something against a rotating Earth, you have not presented it. It would be wrong, and the Council of NIcea would have been correct in not accepting Enoch as canonical.
I just want to add. It is long overdue that we stop deifying the council of Nicea. I'm sure it served its purpose, but Jesus said man does not live by bread alone but "EVERY" word that comes from the mouth of God. Satan was tempting him with scriptural sounding claims, but Jesus knows the Word, for He is the Word.
the point being: when satan knows the Word better than you, that's a problem.
Went to get you specific references in Enoch and came across an excellent article. You should go and read the verses within their context and understand what God wants you to know about His creation.
I popped it open. Right off the bat, it cited a series of quotations about "the earth" being immovable. Pathetic. You realize that the word "earth" was in reference to the ground we stand on, not to a planet?
No bother. It is more important to see what is than to read old writings about what is. Moreover, human technology and enterprise is based on transportation on and around a global Earth. It is simply a fact. And either you can lay it to these writings being in error, or you can stand back and realize that someone dating from the time of Babylon and Egypt was simply not equipped to understand what Earth the planet was. It was not important that they know. The only importance was the Law and the Gospel.
Creation is God's Word, even more so than anything recorded by man. It is a wonder that you do not respect it as much.
There is no problem. You describe no problem. You wave your hands and claim there is a problem. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second. The Earth is standing still by comparison, but we can measure Doppler shifts to determine effects of relative velocity along the line of sight.
Centrifugal force is smaller than gravity, by a lot, but it is able to produce the oblateness causing the equatorial diameter to be greater than the polar diameter. We don't notice it, as I said, because it is too small to notice. I have done the calculation. It would be instructive (to you) to also perform that calculation. If you can. I find people who want to argue this are innumerate.
I don't understand your point about Enoch. A full Moon, of necessity, occurs on the opposite side of the Earth from the Sun. The Moon and the Sun are 180 degrees apart. It will necessarily rise when the Sun sets. Always. It is not a miraculous sign; it is a consequence of orbital geometry. Why do you fix on this? It is akin to making a point about why the sky is blue. So what?
No map can be presented on a flat surface (!) without significant distortion (unless the area mapped is so small as to be almost flat). The only fully accurate map would be that presented on a globe. We have always known that. That is one of the early proofs of the sphericity of the Earth, that large-scale maps cannot be faithfully rendered as a flat geometry.
Do the scriptures define the principles of geometry? Or of mathematics? Or of chemistry? Or of physics? Nevertheless, they are true and faithful. The Creation itself is the Word of God and we are enjoined to pay attention to it as well as to Scripture. And why would I have any trouble with Biblical creation? There is nothing in it that conflicts with what we see about us.
Well as a fellow Christian, lets put it this way. I never have to favor a scientific claim over the Word of God. If they are in opposition, I can trust God's Word and KNOW that the "science" is just "science so-called". Don't worry about translations and interpretations. I'm not declaring that every text claiming to be God's Word, necessarily is. We must test ALL things - including and especially the "science so-called" that is contrary to the Word.
You should read (first) Enoch and Jubilees, test those scriptures. And then decide whether you will continue to defend the spinning ball in your mind.
Enoch leaves no place for spinning ball theories. Once you KNOW, you'll start to understand how far down in a hole of deception you were placed by government education and a very long standing conspiracy.
There is no opposition. Some science is folly, of course, but everyday physics is true and correct. Tested by application, especially space flight. The Earth, as it is, explains what we see. Enoch and Jubilees add nothing to truth. If Enoch says something against a rotating Earth, you have not presented it. It would be wrong, and the Council of NIcea would have been correct in not accepting Enoch as canonical.
I just want to add. It is long overdue that we stop deifying the council of Nicea. I'm sure it served its purpose, but Jesus said man does not live by bread alone but "EVERY" word that comes from the mouth of God. Satan was tempting him with scriptural sounding claims, but Jesus knows the Word, for He is the Word.
the point being: when satan knows the Word better than you, that's a problem.
So, which side are you on, since you know the Bible so well? I guess you have given up entirely on defending the flat Earth.
Went to get you specific references in Enoch and came across an excellent article. You should go and read the verses within their context and understand what God wants you to know about His creation.
https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/ebooks/PlaneTruth/pages/Appendix_A.html
I popped it open. Right off the bat, it cited a series of quotations about "the earth" being immovable. Pathetic. You realize that the word "earth" was in reference to the ground we stand on, not to a planet?
No bother. It is more important to see what is than to read old writings about what is. Moreover, human technology and enterprise is based on transportation on and around a global Earth. It is simply a fact. And either you can lay it to these writings being in error, or you can stand back and realize that someone dating from the time of Babylon and Egypt was simply not equipped to understand what Earth the planet was. It was not important that they know. The only importance was the Law and the Gospel.
Creation is God's Word, even more so than anything recorded by man. It is a wonder that you do not respect it as much.